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Ok, if you live in America then why is it that you still say allah? Here in the United States of America we speak a language called english, where we say "God."


Why is it that you say that allah = God but you call them two different things?



Why is it that you support the idea that allah and God are the same, but then you reject the fact that Jesus is God?
 
No no no, I think you misunderstood. I know that it translates as God. Why don't you say God though? Why do you call Him allah instead of God?
 
Hello dsfas!

So why do we not just say 'God'? Well, we believe Allah is the proper name for God. You see, in English, God can be pluralised (e.g. Godfather/mother, godchild, Gods, goddess etc etc - we see this as blasphemy.). 'Allah' - is a genderless term, which cannot be pluralised - it means 'The One God'. We believe in One God,who is almighty, Islam is a monotheistic religion. So it it preferred we use the word Allah, instead of a word 'God' which can be manipulated.

However, it does not matter what language you speak and how you say 'God' - God understands all languages. For example, the French say 'Dieu'. That does not mean they worship another God, that is simply the language that is familiar to them, and that is what they say.
Did you know that even Arab Christians use the word 'Allah'?
Jesus used the words "Eli" in aramaic, which is a fairly close resemblance to 'Allah' which is arabic.

Why do we reject the idea that Jesus is God? We believe Jesus was a Prophet sent by God, like Moses was a Prophet, sent by God. If you want to know more about why we do not believe in Jesus as God but as a great Prophet, there is an interesting discussion you are welcome to join, right here. http://www.islamicboard.com/comparative-religion/8874-why-dont-muslims-believe-trinity.html

Hope that helps.
Peace.
 
salam alaikum
very good answer bro F.Y. masha'Allah
 
F.Y. said:
Hello dsfas!

So why do we not just say 'God'? Well, we believe Allah is the proper name for God. You see, in English, God can be pluralised (e.g. Godfather/mother, godchild, Gods, goddess etc etc - we see this as blasphemy.). 'Allah' - is a genderless term, which cannot be pluralised - it means 'The One God'. We believe in One God,who is almighty, Islam is a monotheistic religion. So it it preferred we use the word Allah, instead of a word 'God' which can be manipulated.

However, it does not matter what language you speak and how you say 'God' - God understands all languages. For example, the French say 'Dieu'. That does not mean they worship another God, that is simply the language that is familiar to them, and that is what they say.
Did you know that even Arab Christians use the word 'Allah'?
Jesus used the words "Eli" in aramaic, which is a fairly close resemblance to 'Allah' which is arabic.

Why do we reject the idea that Jesus is God? We believe Jesus was a Prophet sent by God, like Moses was a Prophet, sent by God. If you want to know more about why we do not believe in Jesus as God but as a great Prophet, there is an interesting discussion you are welcome to join, right here. http://www.islamicboard.com/comparative-religion/8874-why-dont-muslims-believe-trinity.html

Hope that helps.
Peace.
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your trying to name GOD... that isn't good... human origin agian... in exodus we see God name himself... I AM WHO I AM... MEANING I WAS, I AM, AND WILL BE... again GOD CAN do anything.. so do you believe God being here for eternity? before we lived?


the difference in all those prophets is that GOD RECRUITED THEM DURING LIFE TIME... JESUS WAS ALREADY THE MASSIAH LONG BEFORE HE CAME.
 
steve said:
Lol
The gender says F.Y. is a sister.
But a nice respons indeed.
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ooopss lol I didnt see cos I dont usually look at the genders - just go by the "sound of the name"

sorry sis...didnt mean to call you a bro
 
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Say: Call upon Allah or call upon, the Beneficent God; whichever you call upon, He has the best names; [Surah Al Isra Ayah 110]

Tell me, do you also want us to read the Quran in english in our prayers now, just because we live in english speaking country.
 
dsfas said:
Ok, if you live in America then why is it that you still say allah? Here in the United States of America we speak a language called english, where we say "God."


Why is it that you say that allah = God but you call them two different things?
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First of all the name "Allah" is an arabic word. This is the language of Islam. We pray in Arabic, and we learn alot of termonology in Arabic. The word 'God' is just a plain english word. Its not in Arabic. Allah(swt) is the proper way of how we muslim refer to our God. The Al-mighty. The all-merciful. Our forgiver.



Secondly I want to clear up that misconception that you have about what the people call 'their' god in America. Not everyone living in America calls their God 'God per-say. This is just a general steryotype giving to the Americans that they are all 100% english therefore they don't know any Arabic words. There are muslims here to in America too. It is certainly most common for muslims to call thier God Allah(swt) Please take a look here:






All the Prophets (peace be upon them) came with one religion, which is to profess the unity of Allah by worshipping Him alone, and to declare that Allah is free from any defects or needs. The objective of the Prophets like Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them) was to take people from the worship of Allah's creation to the worship of Allah alone, to liberate humanity from all forms of disbelief and polytheism, and to guide them towards their Lord in a clear manner.








Why is it that you support the idea that allah and God are the same, but then you reject the fact that Jesus is God?
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This is because God is in one language and Allah is in a different language but they still mean the same!. We definetly do not believe that Jesus was God because he was a prophet. No other can be worshipped EXCEPT Allah(swt) period. Jesus
 
dsfas said:
Why is it that you support the idea that allah and God are the same, but then you reject the fact that Jesus is God?
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Hi

why do you lower the status of God with attributing Jesus as a son of God?

explain how its possible for Jesus peace be upon him to be God.
 
Halima said:
First of all the name "Allah" is an arabic word. This is the language of Islam. We pray in Arabic, and we learn alot of termonology in Arabic. The word 'God' is just a plain english word. Its not in Arabic. Allah(swt) is the proper way of how we muslim refer to our God. The Al-mighty. The all-merciful. Our forgiver.



Secondly I want to clear up that misconception that you have about what the people call 'their' god in America. Not everyone living in America calls their God 'God per-say. This is just a general steryotype giving to the Americans that they are all 100% english therefore they don't know any Arabic words. There are muslims here to in America too. It is certainly most common for muslims to call thier God Allah(swt) Please take a look here:






All the Prophets (peace be upon them) came with one religion, which is to profess the unity of Allah by worshipping Him alone, and to declare that Allah is free from any defects or needs. The objective of the Prophets like Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them) was to take people from the worship of Allah's creation to the worship of Allah alone, to liberate humanity from all forms of disbelief and polytheism, and to guide them towards their Lord in a clear manner.
















This is because God is in one language and Allah is in a different language but they still mean the same!. We definetly do not believe that Jesus was God because he was a prophet. No other can be worshipped EXCEPT Allah(swt) period. Jesus
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does God really care how you pray? omgosh.. he made your language for a reason.. by praying in another language shows that you obviously don't care what God has made you to be.
 
does God really care how you pray? omgosh.. he made your language for a reason.. by praying in another language shows that you obviously don't care what God has made you to be.
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No its a matter of stoicinity. By staying with the language in which it was revealed to us we stay clear from bad translations. And how does it show disrespect? Your argument holds no ground. Are we neglecting our roots by praying in another language? Is language that important? I thought language was just a medium to convey an idea. Its the idea that matters, and by sticking to a language we stick to the essence of that idea.
 
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does God really care how you pray? omgosh.. he made your language for a reason.. by praying in another language shows that you obviously don't care what God has made you to be.
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I said that Arabic is the language of Allah, therefore Arabic is the language of muslims. That is why we do our prayers in Arabic. A typical example here stated in the narrative below.




The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “There is no prayer for the one who does not read al-Fâtihah”. He did not qualify that the reading had to be audible or quiet. Therefore, if the worshipper reads what he is obligated to read, whether audibly or quietly, then he has fulfilled his obligation.





Al-Fatihah is not in English. It's in Arabic. We cannot translate the whole Hadith into English. Moreover the Prophet has clearly said that if we dont recite Al-fatihah then there is clearly no prayers as mentioned above. It is our job as muslims to follow prophet Muhammed(saw) as a role-model and Prophet Muhammed (saw) has never recited his prayers in English.
 
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steve said:
No its a matter of stoicinity. By staying with the language in which it was revealed to us we stay clear from bad translations. And how does it show disrespect? Your argument holds no ground. Are we neglecting our roots by praying in another language? Is language that important? I thought language was just a medium to convey an idea. Its the idea that matters, and by sticking to a language we stick to the essence of that idea.
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but yet you seem to care about how your pray and if your praying in the native language? GOD understans your language more than you do...
 
PRISONERofJOY12 said:
but yet you seem to care about how your pray and if your praying in the native language? GOD understans your language more than you do...
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We our praying to Allah(swt) WE have to care. Allah has made Arabic the native language for Islam. The Quran was written in Arabic. The sunnah was written in Arabic. Just like how the torah was written in Hebew.
 
PRISONERofJOY12 said:
your trying to name GOD... that isn't good...
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If you look in the bible where 'Jesus' (peace be upon him) says: 'why has thou forsaken me' - you'll see that the bible, because Jesus (peace be upon him) was from the hebrew nation, he spoke hebrew - and it was said, even in the later versions 'Ellah, Ellah - why has thou forsaken me.'

Ellah in the hebrew language means God - and the hebrew language when put into arabic (because they are both sister languages - really similar) the word 'Ellah' is the word 'Allah]/b]' in arabic. hence we say 'Allah' - which means that we call God more by His real name, more than the non muslims call Allah, God.


If you dont believe me, you can try doing abit of research and finding out. This may have more of an effect if you look in the older versions of the bible because the new one may be edited..
 
PRISONERofJOY12 said:
but yet you seem to care about how your pray and if your praying in the native language? GOD understans your language more than you do...
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Hebrew became Aramaic, Aramaic became Arabic. They are all closely related languages. Very close.

So, ask yourself. Why were was tha Torah written in Hebrew? Why was the New Testament revealed in Aramaic? Why is the Quran in Arabic?

It is because, these languages are beautiful for religious purposes. For example, arabic has over 40,000 nouns, english has 20,000. When you translate, you lose meaning.

The word Rabb, for example, is translated as 'Lord'. Yet it's meaning trancends the word Lord. I can call a human being Lord with worrying about blasphemy, but I could never call a human being Rabb.

The same goes for the word Allah, in essence, it means 'THE GOD'. Yet, 'THE GOD' doesn't carry the right connotations and meanings.

We use the Arabic language because it praises God better than any language ever could.

Yet, in honesty, when I make sincere 'dua', which is to beseech God, I speak in English. It's my mother toungue and I express myself best in it. Yet I would never abandon Arabic, the language of my beloved Prophet's.

Yes, God made us to speak different languages, and theres nothing wrong with speaking a certain language. But didn't God give us the ability to learn? In fact, in the Quran, one of the reasons Adam was called the best of creation was his ability to learn.

I am of Bengali origin, Arabic is in no way my native language. Yet I'm learning it, and it's such a beautiful language, and easy to learn.

Instead of arguing over our choices in lexis and diction, why not talk about more important issues. Seriously, why God, why Allah? Not neccesary.

Salam.
 
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