Repulsive verses in the bible

[Ramadhan]

Ooooh..... I actually like this!

This post shows us glo's truer color, which is a christian warrior in the inside.

With all due respect, Ummu Sufyaan, but it seems to me that Hiroshi quoted a Bible verse in order to answer the question which you asked him.

It seems unfair to first ask for evidence and then to complain about the evidence given as 'defending one's view' and 'preaching other faiths'.

With regards to promoting faiths other than Islam, we had some useful discussions in this thread.
Here is what Woodrow recommended:


Salaam

 

[Hiroshi]

No it isnt because 1 -there is no evedince for it 2 - God specifically gave a warning to the people that commited sodomy.

You could be right. Please see my post number 96.

On the one hand, it is difficult to believe that there were at that time no children and even unborn babies in Sodom as there would be in any large community of people. But on the other hand, God assures us that he will not destroy the righteous along with the wicked (Genesis 18:23), not even as many as ten (Genesis 18:32).

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you all,

I do not think this thread brings glory to God in any way at all, and I fail to see how it is helpful to either Islam or Christianity.

We are all created by the same wonderful God, and the same God hears all our prayers. We have a duty to care for all of God’s creation, and that has to include caring for each other.

In the spirit of praying for a greater interfaith understanding and friendship.

Eric

 

[syed_z]

Soorah 11:78-79 speaks of Lot's daughters which I believe Muslim commentators understand to refer to other women in the city (i.e. not his literal daughters). And with such a sex-crazed atmosphere it would be surprising if at least some of such women were not pregnant (otherwise why would Lot suggest that the mob have the women instead of his guests?) Also Genesis 19:4 indicates that young ones were there in the city ("from boy to old man").

Asalaam O Alaikum Brothers/sisters....


I just would like to say, that Quran specifically speaks about how does Allah (swt) deals with those righteous people who are among the evil folks who get punished...


(6:47) Say "Can you imagine what your condition will be if God's chastisement befalls you, either suddenly or in a (gradually) perceptible manner ? (but then) will any but evil doing folk (ever) be destroyed ?"


The way of Allah (swt) dealing with nations in the past and the present is the same, the Way (Sunnat) of Allah never changes...


(30:30)... No change should there be in the creation of Allah ....


when Allah says in the Quran.... (but then) will any but evil doing folk (ever) be destroyed...is clear that Allah (swt) when ever destroyed the previous nations for their evil, He destroyed the evil among them and NOT the good ones, but does that mean the good ones were all dead before ? No ... but what Allah tells us here that, by the word "destroy" ... it means that the righteous even if they suffered a physical destruction, they are bound to attain spiritual bliss and are not "destroyed" like the evil doing folks, who are destroyed not only in this world but also in the Hereafter....

 

[tango92]

Greetings and peace be with you all,

I do not think this thread brings glory to God in any way at all, and I fail to see how it is helpful to either Islam or Christianity.

We are all created by the same wonderful God, and the same God hears all our prayers. We have a duty to care for all of God’s creation, and that has to include caring for each other.

In the spirit of praying for a greater interfaith understanding and friendship.

Eric

did the holy spirit inspire the pornography in the bible? seems like god is bringing dishonour to himself. i forget, god is simply humbling himself? oh no, its only the jesus section which is humble, since the holy spirit inspired the bible we conclude the holy spirit is a bit perverted.

 

[glo]

Ooooh..... I actually like this!

This post shows us glo's truer color, which is a christian warrior in the inside.

If by 'Christian warrior' you mean somebody who tries to stand up for fairness, justice and peace, then I am quite happy with your description.

Ummu Sufyaan made a comment which I thought was unfair towards another poster, and I felt it worth commenting on.

Under different circumstances I might have chosen not to comment, but Hiroshi is a new member here and I wanted him to be aware that the views expressed by Ummu Sufyaan were not necessarily representative of the forum as a whole.
That's why I thought it was worth referring back to Woodrow's recent thread in general, and to his comments made here in particular.

 

[جوري]

Ooooh..... I actually like this!

This post shows us glo's truer color, which is a christian warrior in the inside.

I wouldn't call her a 'christian warrior ' albeit it a 'true christian warrior' isn't any more apt at what they do, not much to sell folks by way of mangods.. just a woman using her wiles and sugar coating ever much hoping that it is deceptive to the majority.. except everyone sees right through it-- I believe even her own kind!

I really despise 'ganging up' on someone, but I wanted to assure you that what you know is known to most..

 

[glo]

^
Come to think of it, I am more a worrier than a warrior, really ... indeed, I have a habit of worrying way too much. :nervous:

My husband keeps reminding me by asking "What's the worst thing that can happen?!" :statisfie

 

[جوري]

thanks for the heads up.. I'll remedy the spelling error and may you remedy your psychological blebs..

all the best

 

[Hiroshi]

Asalaam O Alaikum Brothers/sisters....


I just would like to say, that Quran specifically speaks about how does Allah (swt) deals with those righteous people who are among the evil folks who get punished...


(6:47) Say "Can you imagine what your condition will be if God's chastisement befalls you, either suddenly or in a (gradually) perceptible manner ? (but then) will any but evil doing folk (ever) be destroyed ?"

Yes, yes. The Bible says similar things. Please refer to my later posts number 96 and 102.

 

[Hiroshi]

Asalaam O Alaikum Brothers/sisters....


I just would like to say, that Quran specifically speaks about how does Allah (swt) deals with those righteous people who are among the evil folks who get punished...


(6:47) Say "Can you imagine what your condition will be if God's chastisement befalls you, either suddenly or in a (gradually) perceptible manner ? (but then) will any but evil doing folk (ever) be destroyed ?"


The way of Allah (swt) dealing with nations in the past and the present is the same, the Way (Sunnat) of Allah never changes...


(30:30)... No change should there be in the creation of Allah ....


when Allah says in the Quran.... (but then) will any but evil doing folk (ever) be destroyed...is clear that Allah (swt) when ever destroyed the previous nations for their evil, He destroyed the evil among them and NOT the good ones, but does that mean the good ones were all dead before ? No ... but what Allah tells us here that, by the word "destroy" ... it means that the righteous even if they suffered a physical destruction, they are bound to attain spiritual bliss and are not "destroyed" like the evil doing folks, who are destroyed not only in this world but also in the Hereafter....

I think that something like family responsibility must enter the picture somewhere. If parents act unwisely or wickedly then this would naturally bring harmful consequences upon their young children.

In Luke 17:27 Jesus says that men and women were marrying right up until the time of Noah's flood which destroyed them. Surely then there must have been children and unborn babies that were also destroyed in the flood, due to their parents' failure to heed Noah's warning.