Hinduism and Christianity / Krishna and Jesus - Connected ?

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Muslim Woman said:
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I read about krishan or other diety that s/he is supposed to come in this world whenever a bad ruler comes and torture people. So , when was the last time that hindu diety came in this world ?
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I'm not sure about the most recent, but the last one will appear at the end of times and he will be called Kalki and will fight the battle of good with evil.
 
Charzhino said:
you need to read the philosophy of Vedenta to understand concepts of Atman, Maya and avatar first. Krsna is birthless and eternal.
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I guess if i wanna know about hinduism i should read the veda but veda is cannot be read by everyone and only certain selected people can lsiten to it.

Traditional belief based on scriptural details and astrological calculations gives the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami,[36] as either 18 or 21 July 3228 BCE.[37][38][39] Krishna belonged to the royal family of Mathura, and was the eighth son born to the princess Devaki, and her husband Vasudeva.Though Krishna was born in the royal family he was brought up by yadavas. Mathura was the capital of the Yadavas, to which Krishna's parents Vasudeva and Devaki belonged. The king Kansa, Devaki's brother,[40] had ascended the throne by imprisoning his father, King Ugrasena. Afraid of a prophecy that predicted his death at the hands of Devaki's eighth son, he had locked the couple into a prison cell. After Kamsa killed the first six children, and Devaki's apparent miscarriage of the seventh, being transferred to Rohini as Balarama, Krishna took birth.

According to Bhagavata Purana, Krishna married with 16,108 wives

interesting uh.So called God has 16,108 wives.but people are talking too much when prophet muhammad pbuh had more wives or when Islam allows marrying 4 wives.
 
abdulmajid said:
Oh! that means Hindus worship prophets rather than worshiping God????
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he wasn't a prophet.they worship avatar.and each hindus have their own belief and own understanding of the religion...some blindly worship the statues and in each house,each family members will worship to different statues for example father will worship Shiva,mother will worship muruga,brother will worship Ganesha,sister will worship durga and so on...

each "God" has it's own temple.

basically the cocnept of hinduism is through meditation and one can only reach moksha or not to be reborn through meditation..but how many hindus know it?and how many hinuds read their scripture or how many hindus know to read sanskrit?how many hindus know about anmegam(hereafter)?


they just blindly follow what was taught to them by ancestors and a lot of innovations.

I have a great question to hindus...why do u feed your Lord?
and why do you prepare shelter,and put on cloths for him/her.and why do you need to provide jeweller and money?

did he ask you to provide these things?

The Creator suppose to provide everything to us and not the other way around.
 
Students:"Is it true that Hindus believe everything is god?"

Hindu:"Yes."

Students:"You mean a fly is god, or an ant, or a stinkbug?"

Hindu:"You laughin' because you don't understand. You see only the illusion but don't see the One Reality-- Brahman."

Students:"Are you god?"

Hindu:"Yes, and so are all Hindus. They just need to realize it."

Students:"How're you going to 'realize' what isn't true? You didn't create the world!"

Students:"I hear you're a vegetarian--don't believe in taking any life..."

Hindu:"I believe in no-violence. Like Gandhi. Everybody respects him. He was a great Hindu! It's wrong to take life."

Students:"Any life?"

Hindu:"All life is sacred. The Vedas say so."

Students:"Don't you know that even vegetables have the seven characteristics of life? Vegetarians take life too." "How about when he boils water for his tea? Think of all the millions of bacteria he kills then! Poor, helpless little animals--that's what they are. You know, they evolve and reincarnate upwards--eventually into cows and humans!" "Gosh, he's a regular murderer!"
Rabi went home and grazed the cow and asked her, "You are a god, aren't you?" She just said "Moo."

On another school day, the question arose,

Students:"If Lakshmi is the goddess of wealth and prosperity, why are Hindus so poor?"

Hindu:"A man can be poor in one life and wealthy in the next."

Students:"How many reincarnations does it take? Look around! Most East Indians are cane-cutters, living in poor houses...." "Look at India--it's the most miserable country in the world! ...There are more rats than people, and such poverty and disease!" "People are starving in India, while the rats get fat and the sacred cows die of old age! That's what her gods and reincarnation have done for India
 
revert2007 said:
I have a great question to hindus...why do u feed your Lord?
and why do you prepare shelter,and put on cloths for him/her.and why do you need to provide jeweller and money?

did he ask you to provide these things?

The Creator suppose to provide everything to us and not the other way around.
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It's an offering or sacrafice for good will. It is a way of saying thanks, just as prayer or meditation is.
 
revert2007 said:
I guess if i wanna know about hinduism i should read the veda but veda is cannot be read by everyone and only certain selected people can lsiten to it.

Traditional belief based on scriptural details and astrological calculations gives the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami,[36] as either 18 or 21 July 3228 BCE.[37][38][39] Krishna belonged to the royal family of Mathura, and was the eighth son born to the princess Devaki, and her husband Vasudeva.Though Krishna was born in the royal family he was brought up by yadavas. Mathura was the capital of the Yadavas, to which Krishna's parents Vasudeva and Devaki belonged. The king Kansa, Devaki's brother,[40] had ascended the throne by imprisoning his father, King Ugrasena. Afraid of a prophecy that predicted his death at the hands of Devaki's eighth son, he had locked the couple into a prison cell. After Kamsa killed the first six children, and Devaki's apparent miscarriage of the seventh, being transferred to Rohini as Balarama, Krishna took birth.

According to Bhagavata Purana, Krishna married with 16,108 wives

interesting uh.So called God has 16,108 wives.but people are talking too much when prophet muhammad pbuh had more wives or when Islam allows marrying 4 wives.
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Krishna isnt human and you arnt human. Every being is the Self, not the Body. The body is material temporal illusion.

Krishna was Born in the perfect Divine State of Consciousness which is called Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Krishna was always in that state and from birth knew that he was not the body. Therefore Krishna knew himself as God. Since the Self is immortal and never dies and is never created, ''Krishna'' has always existed.

You need to read what Vedenta teaches about the material universe before you think you know what your talking about. This isn't the same belief as Christians have that Jesus was fully man and fully God.
 
Charzhino said:
It's an offering or sacrafice for good will. It is a way of saying thanks, just as prayer or meditation is.
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can you provide the rpoof for your claim.

In Islam bi'da or innovation is a BIg NO.

but i guess in hinduism it is ok to worship the "God" in any way you like as long as u worship any statues made by man.


well let em tell u..it is not just a prayer.ur a sikh,so the way u worship is not similar to Hindus.and i know sikh celebrate something for every 300 years i guess.

and sikh put the holy book infront and they cover their head when they enter Gudhwara and ......even men cover the head and they prostrate and so on.


but hindus don't just do that..they will polute the whole envorinment.

they cannot worship their God without fire.

and Muslims should know what fire is related to :)

every single thing,Hindus must use fire even in the marriage the bride and bridegroom must go around the fire 7 times.hmmm

so their worship isn't simple worship...

there are many children in India dying of hunger..but these people can provide delicious and nutritious food to statues.hmmmm

no comment..readers should conclude by themselves.
 
I have a nother question to Hindus in this forum.

I am sure at least you have been to the temple.can you roughly tell me how much you spend in the temple to worship your "God" so that the "God" can accept your prayers?

i guess the price of "archana" has been increased lol coz the coconut price increased :)
 
Charzhino said:
Krishna isnt human and you arnt human. Every being is the Self, not the Body. The body is material temporal illusion.

Krishna was Born in the perfect Divine State of Consciousness which is called Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Krishna was always in that state and from birth knew that he was not the body. Therefore Krishna knew himself as God. Since the Self is immortal and never dies and is never created, ''Krishna'' has always existed.

You need to read what Vedenta teaches about the material universe before you think you know what your talking about. This isn't the same belief as Christians have that Jesus was fully man and fully God.
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Originally Posted by Charzhino
you need to read the philosophy of Vedenta to understand concepts of Atman, Maya and avatar first. Krsna is birthless and eternal.post number 18



you words contradicts.

i know what am talking about coz am an ex Hindu :)
 
Assalamualikum
I have a question here. How can humans know the date of birth of God? Krishna born as human and was raised as a human and had hundreds of WIVES.

Traditional belief based on scriptural details and astrological calculations gives the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami, as either 18 or 21 July 3228 BCE. Krishna belonged to the royal family of Mathura, and was the eighth son born to the princess Devaki, and her husband Vasudeva.

So is he a God?
 
Oh really...tell me ..how many Hindus know Sanskrit? How man Hindus can read the veda?isn't Hindus is a religion of discrimination where only the Brahmani are allowed to read the Hindu scriptures?
I can bet you almost 90 percents of Hindus know noting about Hinduism except they are taught to worship the so called Gods / avtars.

Before the existence of Krishna, the world already existed.

Traditional belief based on scriptural details and astrological calculations gives the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami, as either 18 or 21 July 3228 BCE Krishna belonged to the royal family of Mathura, and was the eighth son born to the princess Devaki, and her husband Vasudeva.
 
revert2007 said:
The prophet that you guys were waiting for was Muhammad pbuh. He came and conveyed the truth and left the world.. Get your hindu scripture and read it again.
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lol...that doesnt even deserve an answer. Do you realize what Mahamada means in Sanskrit? mada means intoxicated. and "Mahamada" means greatly intoxicated. Zakir Naik and his ilk read that and went ahead and proclaimed mohammed is prophecized in Hindu scriptures! So much for his scholarship! Seriously, every one of these weird claims has been refuted easily by anyone that has even a little knowledge of Hinduism and these refutations are all over the internet. You just have to look for them. All the best.
 
bhakti said:
lol...that doesnt even deserve an answer. Do you realize what Mahamada means in Sanskrit? mada means intoxicated. and "Mahamada" means greatly intoxicated. Zakir Naik and his ilk read that and went ahead and proclaimed mohammed is prophecized in Hindu scriptures! So much for his scholarship! Seriously, every one of these weird claims has been refuted easily by anyone that has even a little knowledge of Hinduism and these refutations are all over the internet. You just have to look for them. All the best.
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I have to agree, I don't think many muslims take his claims regarding hinduism to be true. Islam and hinduism are complete opposites, personally I think he does it for interfaith purposes but also to try and bring hindus to islam.
 
I personally think that the hindu gods (wishnu, krisna, etc) were either very pious people or, more likely, prophets. After their death however, their people started to make statues and likeness of them to respect and remember them and after few generations, they were revered like god or "gods incarnation" (or "avatar"). After a thousand years or so, the original teachings have been twisted so much by brahmins/priests.

sounds familiar?
Because that's what's also happened with jesus pbuh and christianity.
 
naidamar said:
I personally think that the hindu gods (wishnu, krisna, etc) were either very pious people or, more likely, prophets. After their death however, their people started to make statues and likeness of them to respect and remember them and after few generations, they were revered like god or "gods incarnation" (or "avatar"). After a thousand years or so, the original teachings have been twisted so much by brahmins/priests.

sounds familiar?
Because that's what's also happened with jesus pbuh and christianity.
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that is also likely, pious people get turned into gods after they die
 
revert2007 said:
Assalamualikum
I have a question here. How can humans know the date of birth of God? Krishna born as human and was raised as a human and had hundreds of WIVES.

Traditional belief based on scriptural details and astrological calculations gives the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami, as either 18 or 21 July 3228 BCE. Krishna belonged to the royal family of Mathura, and was the eighth son born to the princess Devaki, and her husband Vasudeva.

So is he a God?
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Krishna says in the Gita that he was never born and does never die, he is eternal. But ''he'' is not his body, but His atman which can never be destroyed or harmed.

The Self is never born, nor does It ever die; never It came into existence nor will It cease to be - It will not take rebirth, It is unborn. 2.20

The human body and material existence is an illusion, those who become enligthened realise the true nature of non-duality, and realise their true Self.
 
naidamar said:
I personally think that the hindu gods (wishnu, krisna, etc) were either very pious people or, more likely, prophets. After their death however, their people started to make statues and likeness of them to respect and remember them and after few generations, they were revered like god or "gods incarnation" (or "avatar"). After a thousand years or so, the original teachings have been twisted so much by brahmins/priests.

sounds familiar?
Because that's what's also happened with jesus pbuh and christianity.
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To a learned Hindu, it doesn't matter whether Krishna is truly God or not. If you think you are praying to the Lord when you are praying to Krishna, that alone is enough. Bhakti/devotion/faith is an instrument to clean your own soul and awaken the divinity within you. The lord doesn't need worship. He's perfect and self-sufficient and hence has no needs.
 

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