Europe's Identity Crisis Fuels Rising Anti-Muslim Sentiment

[DavidK565]

I find that when you are unable to support your statements with facts or definitions that you expect some gracious accommodation because well you deserve it?
Let's not try to derail the thread, if you are unable to handle the topic or don't understand content even when offered a direct explanation from a tertiary source then simply sit this one out and let another who is better versed and better savvied to the topic answer on your behalf and will you can come like ''me too' for support of his/her statement!

all the best

I'm not derailing the thread. I'm pointing out your mistake. You just made a post that doesn't refute what I said (because you can't), and use it as another opportunity to make another snarky remark.

I will tell you this though: Its evident that posting in your threads is a waste of my time. Attempting to assuage your "EVERYONE IS ATTACKING ISLAM UNFAIRLY!!!" fears is a pointless endeavor. You want to be panicked. You want to play the victim. You want the world to be an "us against them" world in which your belief system triumphs. And no matter what anyone tells you to the contrary, that is how you're going to feel. No matter how ridiculous or unfounded those feelings are, you're going to find a way to justify them.

So go ahead. I won't stop you. I'm done with these foolish ideas that you relentlessly propagate.

 

[جوري]

I'm not derailing the thread. I'm pointing out your mistake. You just made a post that doesn't refute what I said (because you can't), and use it as another opportunity to make another snarky remark.

But unfortunately the only thing you are adapt at doing is a very public display of how so very under-educated you are, not only of current events but of the English language!

I will tell you this though: Its evident that posting in your threads is a waste of my time. Attempting to assuage your "EVERYONE IS ATTACKING ISLAM UNFAIRLY!!!" fears is a pointless endeavor. You want to be panicked. You want to play the victim. You want the world to be an "us against them" world in which your belief system triumphs. And no matter what anyone tells you to the contrary, that is how you're going to feel. No matter how ridiculous or unfounded those feelings are, you're going to find a way to justify them.

So go ahead. I won't stop you. I'm done with these foolish ideas that you relentlessly propagate.

There are no ideas here, there are only facts, and you are derailing the thread on nonsense, you and that other freak can't seem to stick to a topic or at least agree definitions of terms as a basic platform! I am not sure what you stand to gain to water down current events to suit your personal feelings all the while projecting, but I don't think the members here need me to rally for one cause or another, surely they too are staying on top of world events and have basic understanding of the English language..
Perhaps this isn't the forum for you? you throw a tantrum whenever things don't go in the direction of your steering, and quite frankly you are not much of a driver..

all the best

 

[Zafran]

I agree that there are some people who simply hate Islam. I said as much, but many of the things you listed deal with a very vocal minority (which is usually what happens, unfortunately). Merkel in Germany is someone who has been pushing for a more christian Germany since she's been in the public eye. And her anti-Islamic comments have been met with much criticism from the citizenry. Anti-Islam demonstrations in the UK are a vocal minority. There has been a large population of Muslims living in England for a long time, with little issue. And regarding the Turkey and EU thing, its complicated. I think it has to do more with social and economic arrangements than religion. Before joining the EU, there are certain standards that countries have to meet. I don't know the specifics of the situation, but I do know that the EU is waiting on another economic report, and could potentially allow Turkey into the EU by 2013.

The US is separate from this issue. Some Americans have issues with Muslims. Some are justified, some are not. But this is about Europe. (And the US is more "religious" than Europe).

so the burkha ban represents a minority opinion? so does the swiss minerat ban so does the German prime ministers remarks? These are not minority opnions but have been put in action and even voted upon.

Muslims living in england have been going up and down - I'm a muslin living in the UK I know how its like here in certain areas of the UK.

There are many reasons why Turkey has not joined the EU - Islam is definitly one of them.

 

[DavidK565]

But unfortunately the only thing you are adapt at doing is a very public display of how so very under-educated you are, not only of current events but of the English language!

Read this part again, and then let me know if you really want to attack my use of the English language. I understand its a last resort for you, so I'm willing to let it slide.

You're all bravado, and no brains. (You should look those words up in the dictionary as well).

 

[جوري]

Read this part again, and then let me know if you really want to attack my use of the English language. I understand its a last resort for you, so I'm willing to let it slide.

You're all bravado, and no brains. (You should look those words up in the dictionary as well).

I don't consider you a worthy contender to 'attack' anything about you-- we merely highlight the obvious, although admittedly it is rather insulting to most members here to point out what is self-evident given the response you are getting from most everyone..

By the way I thought you were all

done with these foolish

or are we looking at another shortcoming to add to your list of laurels?
If you have nothing to contribute to the topic outside of your apparent dislike of the members here, then take a hike to a more suitable environment?

all the best

 

[DavidK565]

By the way I thought you were all Quote Originally Posted by DavidK565 View Post done with these foolish or are we looking at another shortcoming to add to your list of laurels? If you have nothing to contribute to the topic outside of your apparent dislike of the members here, then take a hike to a more suitable environment? all the best

From what I understand, what we have here is a reading comprehension problem. If you'd read the post properly, or at least quoted it properly, you would have seen that I'm done with your foolish ideas. However, by no means am I content with allowing your childish insults to continue unanswered.

Generally speaking, I have little concern for those who share your ideals. Religious fanaticism by any measure lends itself to a closed-minded, irrational approach to the world.

 

[جوري]

From what I understand, what we have here is a reading comprehension problem. If you'd read the post properly, or at least quoted it properly, you would have seen that I'm done with your foolish ideas. However, by no means am I content with allowing your childish insults to continue unanswered.

We have already established that your brand of understanding has positively nothing to do with current events, the real world or even the appropriate definition of terms. Should we really take offense because you find us with a 'reading comprehension problem' coming from you I think that would be nothing less than a compliment!
Also what questions has your lordship posed that went unanswered?

Generally speaking, I have little concern for those who share your ideals. Religious fanaticism by any measure lends itself to a closed-minded, irrational approach to the world.

We are all fanatics here, so by all means join another forum and buzz off!

all the best

 

[DavidK565]

We have already established that your brand of understanding has positively nothing to do with current events, the real world or even the appropriate definition of terms. Should we really take offense because you find us with a 'reading comprehension problem' coming from you I think that would be nothing less than a compliment!
Also what questions has your lordship posed that went unanswered?

We are all fanatics here, so by all means join another forum and buzz off!

all the best

Congratulations, Vale's Lily, you're finally correct about something. There is nothing more that I can glean from having conversations with you or people like you. By all means, I don't want you to have to cower behind your obnoxious exterior any longer, so I will take my leave. Meanwhile, you can go on and continue to have conversations with people who will give you the responses that you prefer, as it would feed into your narrow-minded, victimized view of society.

I hope you enjoy. (There may be a few more words in there that you need to look up in the dictionary. My apologies. Take your time.)

 

[جوري]

Congratulations, Vale's Lily, you're finally correct about something. There is nothing more that I can glean from having conversations with you or people like you. By all means, I don't want you to have to cower behind your obnoxious exterior any longer, so I will take my leave. Meanwhile, you can go on and continue to have conversations with people who will give you the responses that you prefer, as it would feed into your narrow-minded, victimized view of society. I hope you enjoy. (There may be a few more words in there that you need to look up in the dictionary. My apologies. Take your time.)

To the contrary we never feel like victims .. a Muslim is always a victor in ease and in hardship:
(13).Abu Yahya Suhaib b. Sinan said that Rasulullah saw said : " Wondrous are the believer's affairs. For him there is good in all his affairs, and this is so only for the believer. When something pleasing happens to him, he is grateful, and that is good for him; and when something displeasing happens to him, he is enduring (sabar), and that is good for him " ( Muslim )

.. of course given your cognitive conservatism we have no hopes that you'd actually reach that conclusion, but you describe yourself surprisingly with such alacrity-- perhaps you got one thing right as you do live with yourself and seem to both adequately live and display your own traits and shortcomings. ..

we must thank you for taking a hike and we'll definitely enjoy your lack of how should we say unpleasant stench ...

so long