LI/IB Politics

[GuestFellow]

^ I think some members feel democracy is a western concept. I know people have a different idea of what democracy is but I think it is human nature to a certain extent, where the majority decide what happens. Like this poll, the majority will determine whether this new section will be introduced or not.

It will be interesting to see what happens if you took the democratic part out.

 

[Beardo]

^ I think some members feel democracy is a western concept. I know people have a different idea of what democracy is but I think it is human nature to a certain extent, where the majority decide what happens. Like this poll, the majority will determine whether this new section will be introduced or not.

It will be interesting to see what happens if you took the democratic part out.

I'm considering doing a re-vote, retracting the democratic part of my statement. Horrible word choice on my part.

 

[Yanal]

Will this idea still commence,if there are more against?

 

[serena77]

with everything going on... are we seriously voting on the names and the color of our names? Is there something else being included in the poll... i read the first couple of pages and the newest and i'm really confused.
Serena

 

[سيف الله]

Salaam

Beware, Im going to ramble a bit. . . . . . . . . .

I thought I'd post the idea here instead of in the staff sections, just because.

This idea MAY sound a LITTLE childish and immature but I figure it's worth a try, especially after taking my Political Science class this semester. So here's my game plan: (literally, it's a game/role-playing)

Basically, we introduce a Politics section or sub-section onto IslamicBoard. Not only would we discuss politics, but also form our own IB "Government" where we could do one or two or both of the following:
1. To pass/reject/modify IslamicBoard rules (such as the post counts for entering the gender appropriate rooms, introducing/removing new forums, etc etc). We'd also first have a vote on whether we require a 2/3 majority vote or a simple majority vote in order to pass these rules.
2. In addition to the above, we can also have a real government role-playing Democratic thing where we'd also bring in OTHER topics to the table such as globalization, restricting it or even... well, anything political! It'd be our own system, more like assessing the Muslim community and their views. It could work as a research project as well.

This idea is really exciting for me, but it's up to you guys to vote in or out. Not EVERYONE has to join into this. It's just another optional addition onto the forum.

Why exactly? This forum runs well enough as it is, we can discuss, argue, debate in other sections and add polls, all the rest of it. Sure there could be improvements but we can go through the usual channels if we have issues. Do we want the running of this forum to descend into some vulgar popularity contest? And when it comes to matters of Islam do we want it to be subject to our whims and desires. You only have to look at other faiths who have taken that route (particularly liberal faiths) and see how downhill they have gone. Anyway majorities don’t prove whether someone’s right or not in any given issue.

It's fun, educational, and political. It's time we be aware of our surroundings, and this is a great way to learn. Who said Muslims can't be in congress or parliament? At least speaking for us Americans, we have a lot of freedom and rights, Alhamdulillah.

Please bro enough with the ‘freedoms’ and ‘rights’ rhetoric, its like scraping a chalkboard with the fingernails :skeleton:.

Some people need to chilllll

USA! USA!

I applaud the effort, but don't assume he'll listen to reason... It seems like he's bent on believing what he wants to.


Anyway, long live America! Long live Democracy! Down with Rashad!!!

U.S.A! U.S.A! Yeahhhh!!!

Ah, this thread has me feeling patriotic

Bro Tyrion you talk about reason, well then, give it a rest with the rabid nationalism alright?:raging: Completely unIslamic and nauseating to boot. Man, whatever complaints I might have about the Brits at least they don’t get involved in all that moronic ‘patriotism’ uhhhhhhhhh +o(. Even though I don’t agree with Bro Umar he’s right to voice concerns, particularly how manipulated democracies can become. (eg. In the USA I’m sure you’ve heard of the term 1 dollar 1 vote. Or in Britain they talk about the 'elected dictatorship).

I'm considering doing a re-vote, retracting the democratic part of my statement. Horrible word choice on my part.

Ahhhhhh so if you cant get your way, reword the question ( reminds me of the Lisbon treaty, Irish rejected it, so guess what? They had to vote for it again, this time they said yes though I always wondered what would happen if they rejected it again ) I see your beginning to master the art of spin and information manipulation, a fine politician you’ll make!

I’m sorry if this comes across harsh, I’m not trying to totally trash the idea, and I agree there is plenty to be learned from Western democracies and the way they govern and can apply it to this forum. However Id rather do it in an Islamic manner and according to Islamic traditions, we have to tread carefully lest we lose touch with our faith.

Yes I know, I’ve had a miserable day at work, and I’m feeling moody, apologies if I come across as a bit of a meanie, I dont mean to be :exhausted

 

[Tyrion]

Bro Tyrion you talk about reason, well then, give it a rest with the rabid nationalism alright?:raging: Completely unIslamic and nauseating to boot. Man, whatever complaints I might have about the Brits at least they don’t get involved in all that moronic ‘patriotism’ uhhhhhhhhh +o(. Even though I don’t agree with Bro Umar he’s right to voice concerns, particularly how manipulated democracies can become. (eg. In the USA I’m sure you’ve heard of the term 1 dollar 1 vote. Or in Britain they talk about the 'elected dictatorship).

I want YOU
to chill out.​

 

[GuestFellow]

I love it when everyone takes Brother Tyrion seriously.

 

[Yanal]

with everything going on... are we seriously voting on the names and the color of our names? Is there something else being included in the poll... i read the first couple of pages and the newest and i'm really confused.
Serena

I don't think we are to get the coloured usernames people are suggesting.

 

[S.Belle]

Since so many people seem to be oppossed to this idea and want to be Dr. Killjoys (no offense) why not just make it into a private group/section. Only people who are invited/request to be involved can see or participate in any of this.
And maybe instead of the whole democratic/politcal thing which seems to be the reason that has gotten some people saying No, why not just start a debate group/section that way its more general...?