Dispatches - Lessons In Hate And Violence

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I agree, corporal punishment should be re-introduced. Some students are out of control.
 
glo said:
I will wait for Lost Identity to clarify whether he meant his words as a question or a statement.

Lost Identity, I apologise if I have misunderstood you! It seems that we are pretty much in agreement on physical punishment of children. Salaam, brother.
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It is indeed a question :)
The question mark was there but it seems to have disappeared to God knows where :D
 
Asalaamu Alaikum,

Nice documentary, though they should do a dispatches on the treatment and killing of innocent women and children in Iraq by British/American soldiers. Oh wait...
 
Perseveranze said:
Asalaamu Alaikum,

Nice documentary, though they should do a dispatches on the treatment and killing of innocent women and children in Iraq by British/American soldiers. Oh wait...
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Yeah, a dispatches on Dr Aafia siddiqui and her story for example, for some reason I only ever see a dispatches on Islam and Muslims.
 
Salahudeen said:
Yeah, a dispatches on Dr Aafia siddiqui and her story for example, for some reason I only ever see a dispatches on Islam and Muslims.
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To be fair on Channel 4, they do a wide variety of dispatches. However, when it comes to Islam and Muslims, it is usually negative. I don't mind criticism but there are so many negative documentaries on Islam and Muslims that it is getting boring.

I find it odd how Muslims in UK get so much attention when we make up 3.3% of the population. I'm sure there are problems elsewhere.
 
i couldnt undrstnd what was happening in class..plus my arabic was pathetic.went there for i think, 4years.(uncle forced my parents) They used a tasbi (is that what its called? A rosary like thing)..for beating. Sheesh..what on earth is that thing made of? Marbles? I ws so terrified i couldnt study or concentrate. I begged my mom not to send me to that god forsaken place every single day.The word madrasa sends a chill down my spine. I dont care what people say..i will NEVER send my kids there.
 
Guestfellow said:
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I find it odd how Muslims in UK get so much attention when we make up 3.3% of the population. I'm sure there are problems elsewhere.
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There are plenty of problems in the UK, none of which are caused by muslims or Islam. But as far as media coverage goes, we're to blame for everything. Including, but certainly not limited to, earthquakes, tsunamis and tornadoes.
 
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Salam

I feel sad when I see the thread responses about corporal punishment. This programme showed children being kicked, punched etc...
It also showed older children beating younger children and the teacher watching it.

Those who start with “I think corporal punishment should be brought back in school”

If you did not watch the programme, I suggest you hold back stating your opinion about corporal punishment. This documentary illustrated ABUSE, period.
This abuse should not be in the same category as corporal punishment.

Corporal punishment should be for children that done something seriously wrong! Not if a child or teenager is struggling, or got the verses wrong!
And corporal punishment should not involve beating, punching, kicking and repeatedly slapping.

If my twin sons had any of those treatments in the documentary, I would seriously walk in the mosque and punch the teacher myself.
I remember when one of the teachers broke my ribs! I lied to hospital; social services etc, all because my father thought we shouldn’t grass on another Muslim. Too bad, if I can turn back the time; I would have spilled my guts out to the authority!
 
Dispatches are full of negative aspect of British society (not sure about Britain foreign policies).
Documentary about Hospitals, churches, schools, children services, elderly care etc are always negative. So when they do a programme on Muslims, don’t expect it to be positive. I hardly see a positive documentary from dispatches about positive aspect of British society. They mainly investigate serious issues, always negative.

This week (coming Monday), it is about hospital food. Guess what? Another negative documentary about the NHS.
 
sweet106 said:
Salam

I feel sad when I see the thread responses about corporal punishment. This programme showed children being kicked, punched etc...
It also showed older children beating younger children and the teacher watching it.

Those who start with “I think corporal punishment should be brought back in school”

If you did not watch the programme, I suggest you hold back stating your opinion about corporal punishment. This documentary illustrated ABUSE, period.
This abuse should not be in the same category as corporal punishment.

Corporal punishment should be for children that done something seriously wrong! Not if a child or teenager is struggling, or got the verses wrong!
And corporal punishment should not involve beating, punching, kicking and repeatedly slapping.

If my twin sons had any of those treatments in the documentary, I would seriously walk in the mosque and punch the teacher myself.
I remember when one of the teachers broke my ribs! I lied to hospital; social services etc, all because my father thought we shouldn’t grass on another Muslim. Too bad, if I can turn back the time; I would have spilled my guts out to the authority!
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Great post, sweet106!

Here is what the Mosques and Imams International Advisory Board said in response to the programme:

“There are around two thousand Mosques, Madrassas and Islamic Institutes in the UK. The majority of the Mosques, Madrassas and Islamic Institutes are making positive contributions by teaching good citizenship, respect for all religions and individuals and providing a safe, secure and comfortable learning environment”.

“However, even one incident of abuse against a child is one too many. It is unacceptable, illegal and abhorrent. Such an act is also not in accordance with the teachings of Islam which places a duty of care upon every Imam, Mosque and Islamic teacher to ensure that all children are safeguarded against any form of physical, verbal and emotional abuse”.

“We welcome the immediate firm action concerning the two Mosques featured in the Programme and request all parents and committee members to continue to be vigilant by taking immediate action on such abhorrent, but fortunately isolated, incidents”
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http://www.minab.org.uk/news/press-...abuse-of-children-and-teaching-of-intolerance

"Even one incident of abuse against a child is one too many. It is unacceptable, illegal and abhorrent."
Amen to that!
 
sweet106 said:
Dispatches are full of negative aspect of British society (not sure about Britain foreign policies).
Documentary about Hospitals, churches, schools, children services, elderly care etc are always negative. So when they do a programme on Muslims, don’t expect it to be positive. I hardly see a positive documentary from dispatches about positive aspect of British society. They mainly investigate serious issues, always negative.

This week (coming Monday), it is about hospital food. Guess what? Another negative documentary about the NHS.
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I guess that's the purpose of the Dispatches programmes - to raise awareness of poor practices in this country.

That might not always sit comfortably with us - but then it is a good thing to continue to strive for a better, fairer and kinder society. We can only do that if we are aware of the downfalls in the first place ...
 
Asalaamu ALaikum,

Should be pretty used to being picked out and attacked on purpose. Like I said before, they won't do a dispatches on how American/British soldiers treat the women/children/innocence in Iraq/Afghanistan etc. Just biased stuff.

Not to say hitting children is acceptable, but these kind of programs are just islamaphobic.
 
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And to gain publicity...
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I suppose that's what TV programmes do, and what they get paid for ...

Let's hope this Dispatches programme, and others like it, lead to an improvement in practices in our institutions.
 
Perseveranze said:
Asalaamu ALaikum,

Should be pretty used to being picked out and attacked on purpose. Like I said before, they won't do a dispatches on how American/British soldiers treat the women/children/innocence in Iraq/Afghanistan etc. Just biased stuff.

Not to say hitting children is acceptable, but these kind of programs are just islamaphobic.
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If you've watched John Pilger's The War you don't see, you'll understand why such information is hardly ever shown.
 

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