truthseeker63's Corner [Clarification about Islam]

Re: I was talking to a family member who is a Christian and I said if Jesus is God wh

I think when people refer to God as "running" the universe, they mean that he sustains it... He's the one holding it all together, and without Him it would cease to function/exist... Something like that, I think. :p
 
Re: I was talking to a family member who is a Christian and I said if Jesus is God wh

Christians believe in 3 gods. The father (Allah), the son (Jesus) and the holy spirit/ghost (angel). They say when Jesus warnst around, the father was around, running/sustaining the universe.
 
I would like to ask I know it is not in God's nature to be born and die and or become

I would like to ask I know it is not in God's nature to be born and die and or become human and walk and live on planet earth my question is Im trying to think of other things God would not do because it is not in God's nature can anyone help me ? God would not break God's own laws would that be one also I know God can do anything but God would not do things not in God's own nature ?
 
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Re: I would like to ask I know it is not in God's nature to be born and die and or be

truthseeker63 said:
I would like to ask I know it is not in God's nature to be born and die and or become human and walk and live on planet earth my question is Im trying to think of other things God would not do because it is not in God's nature can anyone help me ? God would not break his own laws would that be one also I know God can do anything but God would not do things not in his own nature ?
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A famous rule in Islam is; God will not do that which does not befit His Majesty. I.e. Allah will not become a stone, Allah will not become a person, Allah will not get married or have children etc.
 
Re: I would like to ask I know it is not in God's nature to be born and die and or be

Dear Truthseeker,

If you think about the names and attributes of God,you can answer your question by yourself. There is no limit for the power of God.
It is only God’s wisdom and will that limits and restricts those deeds, as well as the inherent capacities of the objects and places in which they manifest themselves.
For example; God can punish the disbelievers immediately in this wordly life.But it's against the wisdom in examination. Also giving an ability to a creature beyond it's capacity is also against the wisdom of God.And so on...
 
A Christian I know tried to disprove Islam by saying that the New Testament speaks of

A Christian I know tried to disprove Islam by saying that the New Testament speaks of false Prophets therefor he is saying the false Prophet must be Muhammad because the false Prophets get different gospels from an Angel in my opinion since the Bible has been corrupted does it matter if it says this ?


Passage results:
Galatians 1:8-9 (King James Version)


Galatians 1:8-9 (King James Version)



8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+1:8-9&version=KJV
 
Re: A Christian I know tried to disprove Islam by saying that the New Testament speak

since the Bible has been corrupted does it matter if it says this ?
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You're right. Infact, the christian will first have to prove that the Bible is true.

Since you believe the Qur'an is more true anyway, then you don't need to believe what this christian claims.


It's just like me saying; "the Quran says Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and you have to believe it." It's obvious I will say this because I am a Muslim. But it is upto you to find out which one is Miraculously true for you to believe in it fully.
 
Re: A Christian I know tried to disprove Islam by saying that the New Testament speak

Peace,

Someone more knowledgeable can answer this.

Fact that Jesus(pbuh) himself prophesises Muhammad(pbuh)... And when you study the life of Muhammad(pbuh), you just know he's the Prophesised Prophet, some Christians are so desperate they'll say Muhammad(pbuh) is the devil or spoke to the devil. But look into his life and you'll laught at such claims.

Read what the Bible REALLY says about Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) - http://www.scribd.com/doc/40093482/Who-is-the-Promised-Prophet-of-the-Bibile
 
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Re: A Christian I know tried to disprove Islam by saying that the New Testament speak

truthseeker63 said:
A Christian I know tried to disprove Islam by saying that the New Testament speaks of false Prophets therefor he is saying the false Prophet must be Muhammad because the false Prophets get different gospels from an Angel in my opinion since the Bible has been corrupted does it matter if it says this ?


Passage results:
Galatians 1:8-9 (King James Version)


Galatians 1:8-9 (King James Version)



8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+1:8-9&version=KJV
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are you ready for this?

IN THE SAME LETTER, SAME CHAPTER, Paul declares:

11 I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin. 12 I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ.
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Paul IS NOT teaching the same Gospel as the apostles! in fact:

But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleased 16 to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, my immediate response was not to consult any human being. 17 I did not go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went into Arabia. Later I returned to Damascus.

18 Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Cephas and stayed with him fifteen days. 19 I saw none of the other apostles—only James, the Lord’s brother. 20 I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no lie.
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and thus in the NEXT CHAPTER Paul admits:

1 Then after fourteen years, I went up again to Jerusalem, this time with Barnabas. I took Titus along also. 2 I went in response to a revelation and, meeting privately with those esteemed as leaders, I presented to them the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles. I wanted to be sure I was not running and had not been running my race in vain.
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when Paul FINALLY goes to Jerusalem, he presents "the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles" how? PRIVATELY!

Paul's Gospel is SO DIFFERENT that he has to explain it in private!

he wouldn't have had to explain ANYTHING if he was teaching the SAME Gospel as the Apostles taught!

this makes Paul the false prophet!
 
Re: A Christian I know tried to disprove Islam by saying that the New Testament speak

It is interesting that you quoted from the Chief False Prophet himself, Paul. Just a few more verses down are Galatians 1:11 & 12, "I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin. I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ." There is no evidence that Paul ever met Jesus (as) except for his claim (while on the road to Damascus to persecute Christians) to have received a revelation from Jesus (as) after his ascension. Paul's teachings were not taught by Jesus or by his disciples.
 
Re: A Christian I know tried to disprove Islam by saying that the New Testament speak

YusufNoor said:
this makes Paul the false prophet!
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Brother Yusuf, my thoughts exactly. I was writing the post above and did not see what you had written until after I posted.
 
Christians I have talked and tried to say that Moses saw God's face in a burning bush

Christians I have talked and tried to say that Moses saw God's face in a burning bush therefor why can't God become human since God came down in a burning bush what does the Quran say because these Christians quoted the Quran not the Bible ?
 
Re: Christians I have talked and tried to say that Moses saw God's face in a burning

Here it is simple. ask them to show you were in the Bible it says Moses saw God(swt)'s face in the burning bush.

Exodus 3:1-15 (New International Version, ©2010)



1 Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.”

4 When the LORD saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!”

And Moses said, “Here I am.”

5 “Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.” 6 Then he said, “I am the God of your father,[a] the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God.

7 The LORD said, “I have indeed seen the misery of my people in Egypt. I have heard them crying out because of their slave drivers, and I am concerned about their suffering. 8 So I have come down to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and honey—the home of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 9 And now the cry of the Israelites has reached me, and I have seen the way the Egyptians are oppressing them. 10 So now, go. I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt.”

11 But Moses said to God, “Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh and bring the Israelites out of Egypt?”

12 And God said, “I will be with you. And this will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain.”

13 Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?”

14 God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.[c] This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”

15 God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The LORD,[d] the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’

“This is my name forever,
the name you shall call me
from generation to generation.
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Their bible never said Moses saw God(swt)'s face in the burning bush
 
Re: Christians I have talked and tried to say that Moses saw God's face in a burning

I think I have found my answer in this verse.

“And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, ‘My Lord, show me (Yourself) that I may look at You.’ (God) said, ‘You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me.’ But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, ‘Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers.’” (Quran 7:143)
 
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Christians I have talked and tried to say that Moses saw God's face in a burning bush therefor why can't God become human since God came down in a burning bush what does the Quran say because these Christians quoted the Quran not the Bible ?
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The Quran does not say that God came down in a burning bush. Rather, God spoke to Moses whilst God was above all His creation.

Isn't God able to talk to His Messenger from a distance? Ofcourse He is able.
 
Does the Quran or the Hadith say Music leads to fornication drinking drugs and other

Does the Quran Sunnah or the Hadith or any other Islamic text say Music leads to fornication drinking drugs and other things that are haram in Islam ? I ask because I want to revert or convert to Islam but Im trying to give up music I think I could replace listening to music with listening to the Quran in Arabic because listening to the Quran is music to my ears also I think I would be turned off by music if I knew that it leads to sin I know people can make a song and sing and play music about any subject they want fornication drinking drugs and other things that are haram. I know music is addictive and like a drug I have been praying for help to help me stop listening to music I know music is a waste of time.
 
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Thank you for your answers.
 
Re: Does the Quran or the Hadith say Music leads to fornication drinking drugs and ot

Also is Music of or from or promoted by Satan or the Devil ?
 
Re: Does the Quran or the Hadith say Music leads to fornication drinking drugs and ot

Okay, first off... The vast majority of people on this site consider music to be forbidden, so a lot of your answers will probably be leaning in that direction. I disagree with them, and you should know that there is a difference of opinion on the matter among some scholars. (Although it does seem like the majority of classical scholars hold the position that it is haram/forbidden.)

The Quran itself doesn't mention music, but people have interpreted certain passages as referring to it:

But there are, among men those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a humiliating Penalty. (31:6)

The mention of "idle tales" has been taken to mean music/musical instruments. (although I've noticed that even those who take this verse as referring to music forget to read the second part of the verse, "to mislead from the path of Allah", which doesn't seem to point to an outright ban...)

Most of the evidence for the prohibition of music (Mainly musical instruments) comes from Ahadith. The one I see used most often is the following:

"From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcohol, and the use of musical instruments as lawful. Allah will destroy them during the night...and will change the rest of them to monkeys and pigs and they will remain so until the Day of Resurrection". (Bukhari)

This seems to implicitly claim that musical instruments are forbidden. It's anything but clear though (in my opinion...) so do some more research on your own, weigh the evidences, and make an informed decision. Just don't expect much variety in the answers you get from this forum...

Also, if anyone tries to explain to you how music is bad for your health, how all of it leads to sin, or how there is scientific evidence that points to it being bad... Ignore them. I'm tired of people trying to justify their belief that music is forbidden with some kind of concrete scientific/common sense arguments that just don't apply to all music. Its totally fine if you believe that it's forbidden, and its admirable that anyone would refrain from anything to please God, but making up these reasons to justify it is silly, and most of them are rubbish. If you believe it's forbidden, then just say you don't listen to music because you believe it's haram in Islam. That's all. No need to make up other reasons to justify that prohibition... ( I hope that made sense... /rant)
 
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