truthseeker63's Corner [Clarification about Islam]

Re: Can anyone answer the question to why Humans and Apes are both called Primates an

Hi Truthseeker!

Indeed evolution [i.e the theory that mankind evolved out of other species] is false; basically this is a philosophically biased theory with many major scientifc impasses; read all about it on evolutiondeceit.com

here is what Islam basically says about evolution:

Man

Regarding your question whether the Qur'anic account of creation is incompatible with man having evolved; if evolution entails, as Darwin believed, that "probably all the organic beings which have ever lived on this earth have descended from one primordial form, into which life was first breathed" (The Origin of Species, 455), I apprehend that this is incompatible with the Qur'anic account of creation. Our first ancestor was the prophet Adam (upon whom be peace), who was created by Allah in janna, or "paradise" and not on earth, but also created in a particular way that He describes to us:
"And @ when your Lord said to the angels, 'Truly, I will create a man from clay. So when I have completed him, and breathed into him of My spirit, then fall down prostrate to him.' And the angels prostrated, one and all. Save for Satan, who was too proud to, and disbelieved. He said to him, 'O Satan, what prevented you from prostrating to what I have created with My two hands? Are you arrogant, or too exalted?' He said,'I am better than he; You created me from fire and created him from clay'" (Qur'an 38:71-76). [/INDENT]... All of which shows that, according to the Qur'an, human beings are intrinsically--by their celestial provenance in [I]janna[/I], by their specially created nature, and by the ruh or soul within them--at a quite different level in Allah's eyes than other terrestrial life, whether or not their bodies have certain physiological affinities with it, which are the prerogative of their Maker to create. ... As for claim that man has evolved from a non-human species, this is unbelief ([I]kufr[/I]) no matter if we ascribe the process to Allah or to "nature," because it negates the truth of Adam's special creation that Allah has revealed in the Qur'an. Man is of special origin, attested to not only by revelation, but also by the divine secret within him, the capacity for ma'rifa or knowledge of the Divine that he alone of all things possesses. By his God-given nature, man stands before a door opening onto infinitude that no other creature in the universe can aspire to. Man is something else. [B]Other Species[/B] As for other cases, change from one sort of thing to another does not seem to contradict revelation, for Allah says, [INDENT]"O people: Fear your Lord, who created you from one soul [Adam, upon whom be peace] and created from it its mate [his wife Hawa], and spread forth from them many men and women" (Qur'an 4:1), [/INDENT]and also says, concerning the metamorphosis of a disobedient group of Bani Isra'il into apes, [INDENT]"When they were too arrogant to [desist from] what they had been forbidden, We said to them, 'Be you apes, humiliated'" (Qur'an 7:166). [/INDENT]and in a hadith, "There shall be groups of people from my community who shall consider fornication, silk, wine, and musical instruments to be lawful: groups shall camp beside a high mountain, whom a shepherd returning to in the evening with one of their herds shall approach for something he needs, and they shall tell him, 'Come back tomorrow.' Allah shall destroy them in the night, bringing down the mountain upon them, and transforming others into apes and swine until the Day of Judgement." ([I]Sahih al-Bukhari[/I]. 9 vols. Cairo 1313/1895. Reprint (9 vols. in 3). Beirut: Dar al-Jil, n.d., 7.138: 5590). Most Islamic scholars have understood these transformations literally, which shows that Allah's changing one thing into another (again, in other than the origin of man) has not been traditionally considered to be contrary to the teachings of Islam. Indeed, the daily miracle of nutrition, the sustenance Allah provides for His creatures, in which one creature is transformed into another by being eaten, may be seen in the food chains that make up the economy of our natural world, as well as our own plates. If, as in the theory of evolution, we conjoin with this possibility the factors of causality, gradualism, mutation, and adaptation, it does not seem to me to add anything radically different to these other forms of change. For Islamic tenets of faith do not deny causal relations as such, but rather that causes have effects in and of themselves, for to believe this is to ascribe a co-sharer to Allah in His actions. Whoever believes in this latter causality (as virtually all evolutionists do) is an unbeliever ([I]kafir)[/I] without any doubt, as "whoever denies the existence of ordinary causes has made the Wisdom of Allah Most High inoperative, while whoever attributes effects to them has associated co-sharers ([I]shirk[/I]) to Allah Most High" (al-Hashimi: [I]Miftah al-janna fi sharh 'aqida Ahl al-Sunna[/I]. Damascus: Matba'a al-taraqi, 1379/1960, 33). As for Muslims, they believe that Allah alone creates causes, Allah alone creates effects, and Allah alone conjoins the two. In the words of the Qur'an, "Allah is the Creator of everything" (Qur'an 13:16). [see article by Nuh keller: Eolution and islam];​
 
Re: Did any White Europeans convert or revert to Islam I know there were Black Africa

I think the Ruler of Byzantine of Eastern Roman Empire, Hercules, nearly converted though :mmokay:; here is his story:


Al-Bukhari, on the authority of Ibn Abbas, narrated that Hercules sent for Abu Sufyan and his companions, who happened to be trading in Jerusalem. That was during the time of the truce that had been concluded between the polytheists of Quraysh and the Messenger of Allah (SAW).

Hercules, seated amongst his chiefs of staff, asked, “Who amongst you is the nearest relative to the man who claims to be a Prophet (SAW)?” Abu Sufyan replied: “I am the nearest relative to him from amongst the group.” So they made me sit in front of him and made my companions sit behind me. Then he called upon his translator and said to him. “Tell them (i.e. Abu Sufyan’s companions) that I am going to ask him (i.e. Abu Sufyan) regarding that man who claims to be a Prophet. So if he tells a lie, they should contradict him (instantly)’.

Abu Sufyan, an ardent enemy of the Prophet (SAW) commented: “By Allah, had I not been afraid that my companions would consider me a liar, I would have told lies.”

Abu Sufyan’s testimony went as follows: “Muhammed descends from a noble family. No one of his family happened to assume kingship. His followers are those deemed to be among the weak, with their numbers ever growing. He neither tells lies nor betrays others. We fight him and he fights us but with alternate victories. He bids people to worship Allah Alone with no polytheism and to abandon our fathers’ beliefs. He orders us to observe prayer, honesty, abstinence and maintain strong family ties.”

Hercules, on hearing this testimony, turned to his translator bidding him to communicate to us his following impression which reveals full conviction in the truthfulness of Muhammad’s Prophethood:

“I fully realize that Prophets come from noble families; he does not affect any previous example of Prophet hood. Since none of his ancestors was a monarch, we cannot then allege that he is a man trying to reclaim his father’s monarchy. So long as he does not tell lies to people, he is immune to telling lies as regards Allah.

Concerning his followers being those deemed weak with numbers ever growing, it is something that goes in agreement with questions of faith until it later assumes full dimensions geographically and demographically. I have understood that no instance of apostasy has as yet appear among his followers and this point to the bliss of faith that finds its abode in the human heart. Betrayal, as I see, is alien to him because a real Prophet hold betrayal in abhorrence. Bidding worship of Allah with no associates, observance of prayer, honesty and abstinence and prohibition of paganism are traits bound to subject to him all my possessions.

I have already known that a Prophet must arise but it has never occurred to me that he will be an Arab from among you. If I was sure I would be faithful to him, I might hope to meet him, and if I were with him, I would wash his feet.”

Hercules then requested that the Prophet’s (SAW) letter be read. The observation of the emperor and finally the definite and clear-cut exposition of the Islamic message could not but create a tense atmosphere amongst the clergy present at the court. Abu Sufyan and his companions were ordered to go out.

Abu Sufyan said, “While coming out, I said to my companions, “The matter of Ibn Abi Kabshah (meaning Muhammed – has become so prominent that even the king of Banu Al-Asfar (i.e. the Romans) is afraid of him.’ So I continued to believe that Allah’s Messenger would be victorious, until Allah made me embrace Islam.”

The king did not embrace Islam – for it was differently ordained. However, the Muslim envoy was sent back to Medina with the felicitations of the emperor.
 
Re: Was the Prophet Muhammad a White Skinned Arab ?

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The Messenger of Allah, Muhammad (peace be upon him) was a White skinned Arab.


The arabs infact call the Europeans - Red skin colored [aHmar = red]. And blond haired [Banu aSfar - children of the Yellow/blond haired]. While they -the arabs- call themselves White in skin colour.


The bedouins and certain other arabs are brown in skin colour, but usually the people of Quraysh are white in skin colour. And this was the noble tribe which Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was born into.
 
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Re: Does Islam and or the Quran give a reason why Polytheism can't be true and is wro

Greetings and peace be with you truthseeker63;

I think the greatest meaning of One God, is that we are all created by the same God. We should all care about God’s creation, which means we should care for each other, regardless of our beliefs.

In the spirit of searching for One God

Eric
 
Re: Was the Prophet Muhammad a White Skinned Arab ?

I assume there are Mutawatir hadiths saying that he was white.. many people saw him, so this information can't possibly be wrong.

Also, today's Arabs obviously look different, for example many Lebanese and Syrians etc. look EXACTLY like Turks. And there are Turks who look like Iranians and Arabs etc.. we are all mixed in those regions. Turks, Iranians, Kurds, Arabs, Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians and so on.
 
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Is it true that the Prophet Muhammad made a Prophecy or even more than one about Jeru

Is it true that the Prophet Muhammad made a Prophecy which did happen or even more than one about Jerusalem that the Muslims and Islam would capture Jerusalem ?
 
Re: Is it true that the Prophet Muhammad made a Prophecy or even more than one about

Dear Truthseeker,

There are thousands of events that God’s Noble Messenger (Upon whom be blessings and peace) predicted and that happened as he foretold.

According to an authentic and certain narration, the Noble Messenger(Upon whom be blessings and peace) said to his Companions: “You will be victorious over all your enemies, will succeed in the conquest of Makkah,Khaybar,Damascus and Iraq,Persia, and Jerusalem,"

(‘Ali al-Qari, Sharh al-Bukhari i, 678, 679. Ali al-Qari, Sharh al-Shifa’ i, 678, 679. )


According to an authentic narration, he said: “Istanbul will be conquered, and blessed are the ruler and the troops that will conquer it.” He thus gave tidings that Istanbul would be conquered by Muslim hands, and that Mehmed the Conqueror would attain a high spiritual rank. His prediction again proved to be true. (al-Hakim, al-Mustadrak iv, 422; Bukhari, Ta’rikh al-Saghir, no: 139; Musnad iv, 335; al-Haythami, Majma’ al-Zawa’id vi, 218.)

According to an authentic narration, the Noble Messenger (Upon whom be blesssings and peace) said: “There will be a big epidemic during the conquest of Jerusalem.” When Jerusalem was conquered during the Caliphate of ‘Umar, a widespread epidemic caused in three days the death of about seventy thousand people.

(Bukhari, Tibb 30; Khiyal 13; Muslim, Salam 98, 100; Muwatta’, Madina 22, 24; Musnad iv, 195-6; Bayhaqi, Dala’il al-Nubuwwa vi, 383; Suyuti, al-Khasa’is al-Kubra, ii, 477-8.)
 
Re: Is it true that the Prophet Muhammad made a Prophecy or even more than one about

on a side note, the Prophet [saw] said that were going to capture Jeruselem again, near the end of time :statisfie:

Related by Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet Sallallahu ‘Alaihi Wa Sallam said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Jerusalem where they will erect their flags." (Tirmidhi)
 
Re: Is it true that the Prophet Muhammad made a Prophecy or even more than one about

on a side note, the Prophet [saw] said that were going to capture Jeruselem again, near the end of time :statisfie:

Related by Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet Sallallahu ‘Alaihi Wa Sallam said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Jerusalem where they will erect their flags." (Tirmidhi)


:salamext:

If it's authentic, the word Khurasan implies the area of Afghanistan and the lands which are near it. :)
 
Re: Is it true that the Prophet Muhammad made a Prophecy or even more than one about

:salamext:

If it's authentic, the word Khurasan implies the area of Afghanistan and the lands which are near it. :)



:wasalamex

not sure about it's authenticity level brother, but there are other corraborating hadiths too:

On the authority of Thawban, the Messenger of Allah (upon whom be blessings and peace) said: ... If you see the black (meaning war) flags coming from Khurasan (Afghanistan), join that army, even if you have to crawl over ice, for this is the army of the Caliph, the Mahdi and no one can stop that army until it reaches Jerusalem."
(Son of Majah, Al Busiri, Al Hakim, Ahmad Nuaym, Ad-Daylami, Hasan, son of Sufyaan, and Abu Nuaym.)


Abu Abdullah Nuaim Ibn Hammad on a chain of transmission on the authority of Al Zuhari who said "The black flags will come from the East, led by mighty men, with long hair and beards, their surnames are taken from the names of their home towns (i.e. Khosti or from Khost etc.) and their first names are from a "Kunya".
(Asmal Masalik Lieyyam Mahdiyy Maliki Li Kull-id Dunya Biemrillah-il Malik, Qalda bin Zayd)


Reported by Abu Said Al Khudri: "A man from my nation will come who speaks with my Sunnah and Allah, the Mighty, the Glorified will send showers of rain from the heavens so that the earth will produce its blessing. Through him the earth will be filled with fairness and justice just as it had been filled by oppression and injustice. He will govern this nation for seven years, and go to Jerusalem."

(Abu Dawud, Al Hakim, At-Tirmidhi, Ahmad, son of Hibban, Muslim, Al Tabarani, Al Barudi and Abu Nuaym)

Ali said, “The Prophet said, ‘A man named al-Harith son of Hirath will come from Transoxania (Tajikistan). His army will be led by a man named Mansoor. He will be pave the way for and establish the government of the family of Muhammad, just as the Quraysh established the government of the Messenger of Allah. Every believer will be obliged to support them.’” (Abu-Dawud.)

Buraidah says that Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam said: "There will be many armies after me. You must join that army which will come from Khurasaan." (Ibn Adi)

 
Re: Does Islam believe Jesus fulfilled Messianic Prophecy that is talked about in the

Peace be with you brothers, perhaps this conversation could use a small amount of bible prophecies that were fulfilled by Jesus.


Genesis

Prophecy
Fulfillment
The Messiah would be born of the "seed" of a woman.
Genesis 3:15
Luke 1:34-35
The Messiah would defeat Satan.
above
1 John 3:8
The Messiah would suffer while reconciling men to God.
above
1 Peter 3:18
The Messiah would be a descendant of Shem.
Genesis 9:26
Luke 3:36
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham.
Genesis 12:3
Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac.
Genesis 17:19
Luke 3:34
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham.
Genesis 18:17-18
Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would come for all nations.
above
Acts 3:24-26
The Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac.
Genesis 21:12
Luke 3:34
Messiah to be sacrificed on the same mountain where God tested Abraham.
Genesis 22:14
Luke 23:33
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham.
Genesis 22:18
Galations 3:16
The Messiah would come for all nations.
above
Galatians 3:14
The Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac.
Genesis 26:4
Luke 3:34
The Messiah would be a descendant of Jacob.
Genesis 28:14
above
The Messiah would come for all people.
above
Galatians 3:26-29
The Messiah would be a descendant of Judah.
Genesis 49:10
Luke 3:33
The Messiah would be a King
above
John 1:49
The Jew's capitol punishment authority would be gone when the Messiah arrived.
above
John 18:31

Numbers

The Messiah would be a King.
Numbers 24:17
John 19:19

Deuteronomy

The Messiah would be a Prophet.
Deuteronomy 18:15-19
John 6:14
The Messiah would speak with words of authority given to Him from God.
above
John 12:48-50
Those who refused to listen to the Messiah would be judged.
above
above
The Messiah would be worshiped by angels at his birth.
Deuteronomy 32:43
Luke 2:13-14

Ruth

The Messiah would be a descendant of Boaz & Ruth.
Ruth 4:12-17
Luke 3:32

1 Samuel

The Messiah would be exalted by God with power and strength.
1 Samuel 2:10
Matthew 28:18

2 Samuel

The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
2 Samuel 7:12-13
Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be the Son of God.
above
Matthew 3:16-17
The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
2 Samuel 7:16
Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would come for all people.
2 Samuel 22:50
Romans 15:8-9
The Messiah would be the "Rock."
2 Samuel 23:2-4
1 Corinthians 10:4
The Messiah would be as the "light of the morning."
above
Revelation 22:16

1 Chronicles

The Messiah would be a descendant of Judah.
1 Chronicles 5:2
Luke 3:33
The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
1 Chronicles 17:11-12
Luke 3:31
The Messiah's throne would be everlasting.
above
Luke 1:32-33
The Messiah would be the Son of God.
1 Chronicles 17:13-14
Matthew 3:16-17

Psalms

The Messiah would be rejected by Gentiles.
Psalm 2:1
Acts 4:25-28
Political and religious leaders would conspire against the Messiah.
Psalm 2:2
Matthew 26:3-4
The Messiah would be a King.
Psalm 2:6
John 12:12-13
The Messiah would be the Son of God.
Psalm 2:7
Luke 1:31-35
The Messiah would declare that he was the Son of God.
above
John 9:35-37
The Messiah would be resurrected and crowned as King.
above
Acts 13:30-33
The Messiah would ask God for His inheritance.
Psalm 2:8
John 17:4-24
The Messiah would receive authority over all.
above
Matthew 28:18
The Messiah would be the Son of God.
Psalm 2:12
Matthew 17:5
The Messiah would reject those who did not believe in him.
above
John 3:36
Infants would give praise to the Messiah.
Psalm 8:2
Matthew 21:15-16
The Messiah would be given authority over all things.
Psalm 8:6
Matthew 28:18
The Messiah would be resurrected.
Psalm 16:8-10
Matthew 28:6
The Messiah's body would not be subject to decay.
above
Acts 13:35-37
The Messiah would be exalted to the presence of God.
Psalm 16:11
Acts 2:33
The Messiah would come for all people.
Psalm 18:49
Ephesians 3:4-6
The Messiah would cry out to God.
Psalm 22:1
Matthew 27:46
The Messiah would be forsaken by God.
above
Mark 15:34
The Messiah, anguished, would pray without ceasing.
Psalm 22:2
Matthew 26:38-39
The Messiah would be despised.
Psalm 22:6
Luke 23:21-23
The Messiah would be mocked by people shaking their heads.
Psalm 22:7
Matthew 27:39
Mockers would say of the Messiah, "he trusted God, let him deliver him."
Psalm 22:8
Matthew 27:41-43
The Messiah would be aware of his Father from his youth.
Psalm 22:9
Luke 2:40
The Messiah would be called to God's service from the womb.
Psalm 22:10
Luke 1:30-33
The Messiah would be abandoned by the disciples.
Psalm 22:11
Mark 14:50
The Messiah would be surrounded by evil spirits.
Psalm 22:12-13
Colossians 2:15
The Messiah's heart would burst, flowing with blood & water.
Psalm 22:14
John 19:34
The Messiah would be crucified.
above
Matthew 27:35
The Messiah would thirst.
Psalm 22:15
John 19:28
The Messiah would thirst shortly before his death.
above
John 19:30
The Messiah would be surrounded by Gentiles at his crucifixion.
Psalm 22:16
Luke 23:36
The Messiah would be surrounded by Jews at his crucifixion.
above
Matthew 27:41-43
The Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced.
above
Matthew 27:38
None of the Messiah's bones would be broken.
Psalm 22:17
John 19:32-33
People would stare at the Messiah during his crucifixion.
above
Luke 23:35
The Messiah's garments would be divided.
Psalm 22:18
John 19:23-24
Lots would be cast for the Messiah's clothes.
above
above
The Messiah's atonement would enable believers to be his brethren.
Psalm 22:22
Hebrews 2:10-12
None of the Messiah's bones would be broken.
Psalm 34:20
John 19:32-33
The Messiah's offering of himself would replace all sacrifices.
Psalm 40:6-8
Hebrews 10:10-13
The Messiah would say the scriptures were written of him.
above
Luke 24:44
The Messiah would come to do God's will.
Psalm 40:7-8
John 5:30
The Messiah would not conceal his mission from the congregation.
Psalm 40:9-10
Luke 4:16-21
The Messiah's betrayer would be a friend whom he broke bread with.
Psalm 41:9
Mark 14:17-18
The Messiah would speak with a message of grace.
Psalm 45:2
Luke 4:22
The Messiah's throne would be everlasting.
Psalm 45:6-7
Luke 1:31-33
The Messiah would be God.
above
Hebrews 1:8-9
The Messiah would act with righteousness.
above
John 5:30
The Messiah would ascend into heaven.
Psalm 68:18
Luke 24:51
The Messiah would give gifts to men.
above
Matthew 10:1
The Messiah would be hated by many without cause.
Psalm 69:4
Luke 23:13-22
The Messiah would bear reproach, for God's sake.
Psalm 69:7
Matthew 26:65-67
The Messiah would be rejected by the Jews.
Psalm 69:8
John 1:11
The Messiah's brothers would disbelieve him.
above
John 7:3-5
The Messiah would be angered by disrespect toward the temple.
Psalm 69:9
John 2:13-17
The Messiah would bear reproach, for God's sake.
Psalm 69:9
Romans 15:3
The Messiah's disciples would fail him in his time of need.
above
Mark 14:33-41
The Messiah would be offered gall and vinegar.
Psalm 69:21
Matthew 27:34
The Messiah would thirst.
above
John 19:28
The potters field would be uninhabited.
Psalm 69:25
Acts 1:16-20
The Messiah would speak in parables.
Psalm 78:2
Matthew 13:34-35
The Messiah would be at the right hand of God.
Psalm 80:17
Acts 5:31
The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
Psalm 89:3-4
Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would call God his Father.
Psalm 89:26
Matthew 11:27
The Messiah would be God's "firstborn."
Psalm 89:27
Mark 16:6
The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
Psalm 89:29
Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
Psalm 89:35-36
Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be eternal.
Psalm 102:25-27
Colossians 1:17
The Messiah would be the creator of all.
above
John 1:3
The Messiah would be accused by false witnesses.
Psalm 109:2
John 18:29-30
The Messiah would pray for his enemies.
Psalm 109:4
Luke 23:34
The Messiah's betrayer would have a short life.
Psalm 109:8
Acts 1:16-18
The Messiah's betrayer would be replaced.
above
Acts 1:20-26
The Messiah would be mocked by people shaking their heads.
Psalm 109:25
Mark 15:29-30
The Messiah would be Lord.
Psalm 110:1
Matthew 22:41-45
The Messiah would be at the right hand of God.
above
Mark 16:19
The Messiah would be a Priest in the order of Melchisedec.
Psalm 110:4
Hebrews 6:17-20
The Messiah would be at the right hand of God.
Psalm 110:5
1 Peter 3:21-22
The Messiah would be the "stone" rejected by the Jews.
Psalm 118:22
Matthew 21:42-43
The Messiah would come in the name of the Lord.
Psalm 118:26
Matthew 21:9
The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
Psalm 132:11
Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
Psalm 132:17
above

Proverbs

The Messiah would be from everlasting.
Proverbs 8:22-23
John 17:5
The Messiah would ascend and descend from heaven.
Proverbs 30:4
John 3:13
God would have a Son.
above
Matthew 3:16-17

Isaiah

The Jews would have a hardened heart against the Messiah.
Isaiah 6:9-10
John 12:37-40
The Messiah would speak in parables.
Isaiah 6:9-10
Matthew 13:13-15
The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
Isaiah 7:13-14
Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be born of a virgin.
Isaiah 7:14
Luke 1:34-35
The Messiah would be Immanuel, "God with us."
above
Matthew 1:21-23
The Messiah would be God.
above
John 12:45
The Messiah would be a "stumbling stone" for the Jews.
Isaiah 8:14
Matthew 21:43-44
The Messiah would minister in Galilee.
Isaiah 9:1-2
Matthew 4:12-17
The Messiah would be a light to the Gentiles.
above
Luke 2:28-32
The birth of the Messiah.
Isaiah 9:6
Luke 2:11
The Messiah would be the Son of God.
above
Luke 1:35
The Messiah would be the "Wonderful Counselor."
above
John 7:46
The Messiah would be both God and man (the "Mighty God").
above
John 10:30
The Messiah would be from everlasting (the "Everlasting Father").
above
Revelation 1:8
The Messiah would be the "Prince of Peace."
above
Colossians 1:20
The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
Isaiah 9:7
Matthew 1:1
The Messiah would be a descendant of Jesse.
Isaiah 11:1
Luke 3:23-32
The Messiah would grow up in a poor family.
above
Luke 2:7
The Messiah would have the full Spirit of God upon him.
Isaiah 11:2
Matthew 3:16-17
The Messiah would have the Spirit of Wisdom.
above
Luke 2:40
The Messiah would have the Spirit of Understanding.
above
above
The Messiah would have the Spirit of Counsel.
above
Matthew 7:28-29
The Messiah would have the Spirit of Might.
above
Matthew 8:27
The Messiah would have the Spirit of the Knowledge of God.
above
John 7:29
The Messiah would have the Spirit of the Fear of God.
above
Hebrews 5:7
The Messiah would have a quick understanding in the fear of the Lord.
Isaiah 11:3
Luke 2:46-47
The Messiah would not judge on the basis of external representations.
above
John 7:24
The Messiah would judge the poor with righteousness.
Isaiah 11:4
Mark 12:41-44
The Messiah would be a descendant of Jesse.
Isaiah 11:10
Luke 3:23-32
The Messiah would come for all people.
above
Acts 13:47-48
The Messiah would have the key of David.
Isaiah 22:22
Revelation 3:7
The Messiah would defeat death.
Isaiah 25:8
Revelation 1:18
Others would rise to life at the resurrection of the Messiah.
Isaiah 26:19
Matthew 27:52-53
The Messiah would be the cornerstone.
Isaiah 28:16
1 Peter 2:4-6
The Messiah would heal the blind.
Isaiah 35:5
Mark 10:51-52
The Messiah would heal the deaf.
above
Mark 7:32-35
The Messiah would heal the lame.
Isaiah 35:6
Matthew 12:10-13
The Messiah would heal the dumb.
above
Matthew 9:32-33
The forerunner of the Messiah would live in the wilderness.
Isaiah 40:3
Matthew 3:1-4
The forerunner would prepare people for the coming of the Messiah.
above
Luke 1:17
The Messiah would be God.
above
John 10:30
The Messiah would be as a shepherd.
Isaiah 40:11
John 10:11
The Messiah would be God's servant.
Isaiah 42:1
John 4:34
The Messiah would have the Spirit of God upon him.
above
Matthew 3:16-17
The Messiah would please God.
above
Matthew 3:16-17
The Messiah would provide "justice" to the Gentiles.
above
Matthew 24:14
The Messiah would not draw attention to himself.
Isaiah 42:2
Matthew 12:15
The Messiah would have compassion for the poor and needy.
Isaiah 42:3
Matthew 11:4-5
The Messiah would receive guidance from God.
Isaiah 42:6
John 5:19-20
The Messiah would be ministered to by God.
above
John 8:29
The Messiah would be the new covenant.
above
Matthew 26:28
The Messiah would be a light to the Gentiles.
above
John 8:12
The Messiah would heal the blind.
Isaiah 42:7
Matthew 9:27-30
The Messiah would be from everlasting.
Isaiah 48:16
John 1:1-2
The Messiah would be sent from God.
above
John 7:29
The Messiah would come for all people.
Isaiah 49:1
1 Timothy 2:4-6
The Messiah would be called to God's service from the womb.
above
Matthew 1:20-21
The Messiah would be called by his name before he was born.
above
Luke 1:30-31
The Messiah's words would be as a sharp sword.
Isaiah 49:2
Revelation 2:12-16
The Messiah would be protected by God.
above
Matthew 2:13-15
The Messiah would be responsible for the judgment of mankind.
above
John 5:22-29
The Messiah would be God's servant.
Isaiah 49:3
John 17:4
The Messiah's work would glorify God.
above
Matthew 15:30-31
The Messiah would be distressed over the Jews unbelief.
Isaiah 49:4
Luke 19:41-42
The Messiah would be rejected by the Jews.
above
John 5:43
The Messiah would be God's servant.
Isaiah 49:5
John 6:38
The Messiah would come to bring Israel back to God.
above
Matthew 15:24
The Messiah would be God's servant.
Isaiah 49:6
John 12:49-50
The Messiah would be a light to the Gentiles.
above
Acts 13:47-48
The Messiah would be despised.
Isaiah 49:7
John 10:20
The Messiah would speak with knowledge given to him from God.
Isaiah 50:4
John 12:49
The Messiah would not be rebellious to God's will.
Isaiah 50:5
John 12:27
The Messiah's back would be whipped.
Isaiah 50:6
Matthew 27:26
The Messiah's face would be beaten and spit upon.
above
Matthew 26:67
The Messiah would steadfastly set his face toward his mission.
Isaiah 50:7
Luke 9:51-53
The Messiah would be justified by his righteousness.
Isaiah 50:8
1 Timothy 3:16
The Messiah would place his trust in God.
Isaiah 50:8-10
John 11:7-10
The Messiah would be God's servant.
Isaiah 52:13
John 9:4
The Messiah would be highly exalted.
above
Philippians 2:9-11
The Messiah's face would be disfigured from severe beatings.
Isaiah 52:14
Matthew 26:67-68
The Messiahs blood would be shed to make atonement for all.
Isaiah 52:15
Revelation 1:5
The Messiah's own people would not believe he was the Christ.
Isaiah 53:1
John 12:37-38
The Messiah would grow up in a poor family.
Isaiah 53:2
Luke 2:7
The Messiah would have the appearance of an ordinary man.
above
Philippians 2:7-8
The Messiah would be despised.
Isaiah 53:3
Luke 4:28-29
The Messiah would be rejected.
above
Matthew 27:21-23
The Messiah would have great sorrow and grief.
above
Luke 19:41-42
Men would hide from being associated with the Messiah.
above
Mark 14:50-52
The Messiah would have a healing ministry.
Isaiah 53:4
Luke 6:17-19
The Messiah would bear and carry upon himself the sins of the world.
above
1 Peter 2:24
The Messiah would be thought to be cursed by God.
above
Matthew 27:41-43
The Messiah would bear the penalty for mankind's transgressions.
Isaiah 53:5
Luke 23:33
The Messiah's sacrifice would provide peace between man and God.
above
Colossians 1:20
The Messiah's back would be whipped.
Isaiah 53:5
Matthew 27:26
The Messiah would be the sin-bearer for all mankind.
Isaiah 53:6
Galatians 1:4
It was God's will that the Messiah would be the sin-bearer for all mankind.
above
1 John 4:10
The Messiah would be oppressed and afflicted.
Isaiah 53:7
Matthew 27:27-31
The Messiah would be silent before his accusers.
above
Matthew 27:12-14
The Messiah would be as a sacrificial lamb.
above
John 1:29
The Messiah would be confined and persecuted.
Isaiah 53:8
Matthew 26:55
The Messiah would be judged.
above
John 18:13-22
The Messiah would be killed.
above
Matthew 27:35
The Messiah would die for the sins of the world.
above
1 John 2:2
The Messiah would be buried in a rich man's grave.
Isaiah 53:9
Matthew 27:57
The Messiah would be innocent and had done no violence.
above
Mark 15:3
The Messiah would have no deceit in his mouth.
above
John 18:38
It was God's will that the Messiah would die for all mankind.
Isaiah 53:10
John 18:11
The Messiah would be an offering for sin.
above
Matthew 20:28
The Messiah would be resurrected and live forever.
above
Mark 16:16
The Messiah would prosper.
above
John 17:1-5
God would be fully satisfied with the suffering of the Messiah.
Isaiah 53:11
John 12:27
The Messiah would be God's servant.
above
Romans 5:18-19
The Messiah would justify man before God.
above
Romans 5:8-9
The Messiah would be the sin-bearer for all mankind.
above
Hebrews 9:28
Because of his sacrifice, the Messiah would be greatly exalted by God.
Isaiah 53:12
Matthew 28:18
The Messiah would give up his life to save mankind.
above
Luke 23:46
The Messiah would be grouped with criminals.
above
Luke 23:32
The Messiah would be the sin-bearer for all mankind.
above
2 Corinthians 5:21
The Messiah would intercede to God in behalf of mankind.
above
Luke 23:34
The Messiah would be resurrected by God.
Isaiah 55:3
Acts 13:34
The Messiah would be a witness.
Isaiah 55:4
John 18:37
The Messiah would come to provide salvation.
Isaiah 59:15-16
John 6:40
The Messiah would be the intercessor between man and God.
above
Matthew 10:32-33
The Messiah would come to Zion as their Redeemer.
Isaiah 59:20
Luke 2:38
The Messiah would have the Spirit of God upon him.
Isaiah 61:1-2
Matthew 3:16-17
The Messiah would preach the good news.
above
Luke 4:17-21
The Messiah would provide freedom from the bondage of sin and death.
above
John 8:31-32
The Messiah would proclaim a period of grace.
above
John 5:24

Jeremiah

The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
Jeremiah 23:5-6"
Luke 3:23-31
The Messiah would be God.
above
John 13:13
The Messiah would be both man and God.
above
1 Timothy 3:16
The Messiah would be born of a virgin.
Jeremiah 31:22
Matthew 1:18-20
The Messiah would be the new covenant.
Jeremiah 31:31
Matthew 26:28
The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
Jeremiah 33:14-15
Luke 3:23-31

Ezekiel

The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
Ezekiel 17:22-24
Luke 3:31
The Messiah would be a descendant of David.
Ezekiel 34:23-24
Matthew 1:1

Daniel

The Messiah would ascend into heaven.
Daniel 7:13-14
Acts 1:9-11
The Messiah would be highly exalted.
above
Ephesians 1:20-22
The Messiah's dominion would be everlasting.
above
Luke 1:31-33
The Messiah would come to make an end to sins.
Daniel 9:24
Galations 1:3-5
The Messiah would be holy.
above
Luke 1:35
The Messiah enters Jerusalem 483 years, after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem.
Daniel 9:25
John 12:12-13
The Messiah would be killed.
Daniel 9:26
Matthew 27:35
The Messiah would die for the sins of the world.
above
Hebrews 2:9
The Messiah would be killed before the destruction of the temple.
above
Matthew 27:50-51
A vision of the Messiah in a glorified state.
Daniel 10:5-6
Revelation 1:13-16

Hosea

The Messiah would defeat death.
Hosea 13:14
1 Corinthians 15:55-57

Joel

The Messiah would offer salvation to all mankind.
Joel 2:32
Romans 10:12-13

Micah

The Messiah would be born in Bethlehem.
Micah 5:2
Matthew 2:1-2
The Messiah would be God's servant.
above
John 15:10
The Messiah would be from everlasting.
above
Revelation 1:8

Haggai

The Messiah would visit the second Temple.
Haggai 2:6-9
Luke 2:27
The Messiah would be a descendant of Zerubbabel.
Haggai 2:23
Luke 3:27

Zechariah

The Messiah would be God's servant.
Zechariah 3:8
John 17:4
The Messiah would be Priest and King.
Zechariah 6:12-13
Hebrews 8:1
The Messiah would be be greeted with rejoicing in Jerusalem.
Zechariah 9:9
Matthew 21:8-10
The Messiah would be beheld as King.
above
John 12:12-13
The Messiah would be just.
above
John 5:30
The Messiah would bring salvation.
above
Luke 19:10
The Messiah would be humble.
above
Matthew 11:29
The Messiah would be presented to Jerusalem riding on a donkey.
above
Matthew 21:6-9
The Messiah would be the cornerstone.
Zechariah 10:4
Ephesians 2:20
At the time of Messiah's coming, Israel would have unfit leaders.
Zechariah 11:4-6
Matthew 23:1-4
The Messiah's rejection would cause God to remove His protection of Israel.
above
Luke 19:41-44
The Messiah would be rejected in favor of another king.
above
John 19:13-15
The Messiah would have a ministry to the "poor," the believing remnant.
Zechariah 11:7
Matthew 9:35-36
The unbelief of Israel's leaders would force the Messiah to reject them.
Zechariah 11:8
Matthew 23:33
The Messiah would be despised.
above
Matthew 27:20
The Messiah would stop ministering to the those who rejected Him.
Zechariah 11:9
Matthew 13:10-11
The Messiah's rejection would cause God to remove His protection of Israel.
Zechariah 11:10-11
Luke 19:41-44
The Messiah would be God
above
John 14:7
The Messiah would be betrayed for thirty pieces of silver.
Zechariah 11:12-13
Mathew 26:14-15
The Messiah would be rejected.
above
above
Thirty pieces of silver would be thrown into the house of the Lord.
above
Matthew 27:3-5
The Messiah would be God
above
John 12:45
The Messiah's body would be pierced.
Zechariah 12:10
John 19:34-37
The Messiah would be both God and man.
above
John 10:30
The Messiah would be rejected.
above
John 1:11
It was God's will that the Messiah would die for all mankind.
Zechariah 13:7
John 18:11
The Messiah would die a violent death.
above
Matthew 27:35
The Messiah would be both God and man
above
John 14:9
Israel would be scattered as a result of rejecting the Messiah
above
Matthew 26:31

Malachi

A messenger would prepare the way for the Messiah.
Malachi 3:1
Matthew 11:10
The Messiah would make a sudden appearance at the temple.
above
Mark 11:15-16
The Messiah would be the messenger of the new covenant.
above
Luke 4:43
The Messiah's forerunner would come in the spirit of Elijah.
Malachi 4:5
Matthew 3:1-2
The Messiah's forerunner would turn many to righteousness.
Malachi 4:6
Luke 1:16-17
 
Re: Does Islam believe Jesus fulfilled Messianic Prophecy that is talked about in the

Peace be with you brothers, perhaps this conversation could use a small amount of bible prophecies that were fulfilled by Jesus.

peace be with you BILLY TARMAC, If one objectively analyse the passages in their context,language ...one find out that they have been misquoted, misinterpreted, misapplied , misunderstood and manufactured ....

the writers of the New testament were zealous ,biased ,that is why they commited such mistakes and misapplied such passages on the traditions they received(which contain the truth, besides falshoods) regarding Jesus....



It is a big issue , I'm about to discuss such issue in details in my thread , http://www.islamicboard.com/compara...ghly-comparative-study-arranged-items-52.html

peace
 
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Does the Quran say God can not take human form or the form of a human also in Islam i

Does the Quran say God can not take human form or the form of a human also in Islam is God unique in the sense God does not look like the creation ? Also Im trying to understand Islam's view on why God can't become human or be born on this planet and die like Christianity believes.
 
Re: Does the Quran say God can not take human form or the form of a human also in Isl

Dear Truthseeker,

Quran proves that nothing in universe cannot be similar to God.Here is the view of Quran:

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And there is none like unto Him. Quran Chapter 112

Almighty God is above having mother and father, relatives or wife.Quran denies the divinity of those who have offspring and parents and equals; and it is to show that they are not worthy of being worshipped.Almighty God is above all relations which suggest giving birth and being born. He is exempt from having any partners, helpers, or fellows. His relations with all beings are those of Creator. He creates through His pre-eternal will with the command of “Be!,” and it is. He is far beyond having any relation which is contrary to perfection, or is compelling, necessitating, or involuntary.Almighty God is pre-eternal and post-eternal, He is the First and the Last. Neither in His essence, nor in His attributes, nor in His actions, has He in any way any equal, peer, like, or match, or anything similar, resembling, or analogous to Him. Only, in His acts, there may be comparisons expressing similarity.

From:http://www.lightofquran.info/25word.htm
 
Re: Does the Quran say God can not take human form or the form of a human also in Isl

Does the Quran say God can not take human form or the form of a human also in Islam is God unique in the sense God does not look like the creation ? Also Im trying to understand Islam's view on why God can't become human or be born on this planet and die like Christianity believes.

Peace,

I really do think this is one of those big logic smacking questions.

Anyways, if God becomes human and dies on this planet like Christians believe, who will be controlling the Universe and everything in it? The biggest issue is though, if God became a human he would become limited, if you read more about Jesus(pbuh) in the bible, you'll see just how "limited" he was and in Islam God has no limits.
 
Re: Does the Quran say God can not take human form or the form of a human also in Isl

Does the Quran say God can not take human form or the form of a human also in Islam is God unique in the sense God does not look like the creation ?

There is none like God, He is Perfect and Supreme. And you will find this clearly through Islamic teachings.


We believe other religions are false because they have beliefs in a distorted version of God and say evil things about Him without knowledge. So the Bible [which Jews and Christians] accept say that God becomes tired and rests (i.e. on the 7th day of creation). Whereas God tells us in the Qur'an that "no tiredness or drowsiness overcomes Him." [see Quran 2:255]

Other polytheists make idols of Him and worship them, and even claim to feed God! Whereas God tells us that He does not ask us for food, rather - He is the one who feeds us, that perhaps we may be grateful to Him (and obey Him as a result).

These are just a few examples to show how Islam teaches the Perfection of God.



Also Im trying to understand Islam's view on why God can't become human or be born on this planet and die like Christianity believes.

Imagine it this way;

If God was in the womb of a human mother, it implies:

1 - God was dependant upon a human during pregnancy.
2 - He had a beginning, i.e. he was born.
3 - When he was born, he would eat and go to the bathroom etc.
4 - When he was older, he called people to worship God and was persecuted by his own creation?
These do not look like Attributes of Perfection, nor the attributes of a Perfect God. Rather, they are clearly the signs of a human, and point number 4 is a clear sign of a Messenger of God who calls to God's worship. There are many examples in the Bible which show Jesus prostrating to God [Matthew 16:39, Luke 6:12], which ofcourse hints that he worshipped God and not himself - since he nowhere in the Bible told his followers to worship him.
 
Re: Does the Quran say God can not take human form or the form of a human also in Isl

I think if God can be born live as a human and die who was running the Universe while God was human this is when Christians will bring up the Trinity which is very important to Christianity the Trinity makes no sense to me because how can 1 God be 3 persons but Christianity needs the Trinity without the Trinity there would be no incarnation of God in the person of Jesus because who would run the Universe while Jesus was being born or on Earth or dying on the cross. I have heard some Christians say that the Trinity is just 3 personalities in 1 person not 3 persons but this makes no sense to me because if Jesus is God and God is dying on a cross who was running the Universe it had to be a different person a different God.
 
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Re: Does the Quran say God can not take human form or the form of a human also in Isl

I think if God can be boen live as a human and die who was running the Universe while God was human this is when Christians will bring up the Trinity.


They will bring up the Trinity, but Trinity means '3' while they say God is 1. So their trinity doesn't make sense at all. If their 1 god died on the cross, then he must have died totally, but they say that the other '2 parts' of him didn't die ["Father and the Holy Spirit", which proves that they believe in 3 gods.

This is against the teachings of Jesus because Jesus only called people to worship One God. And even in the Jewish law (which the christians believe in) - people were told to worship 1 God.


So why would God tell people to worship 1 God throughout the entire history until Jesus comes [who they claim is that same god] and say that he tells them to worship 3 parts of God or 3 gods?


That just doesn't make sense does it? :)


Your God is the Originator, Creator and Designer and Provider of everything, He wants you to be grateful to Him and to thank Him for His good by obeying His Messengers', and for that - He will reward you. If you don't be thankful to Him and disobey His Messenger - He will punish you.

It's that simple. :) And that is Islam.
 
Re: Does the Quran say God can not take human form or the form of a human also in Isl

Are there other things in the Quran God won't do besides not becoming human I know God could do anything but God does not lie become tired or eat driink sleep since God is perfect Im trying to explain to Christians why God can't become human this is why Im asking this question.
 

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