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Re: Does Islam and or the Quran give a reason why Polytheism can't be true and is wro

truthseeker; Let me give you a brief bitesize illustration of Islam;


God is One. No matter what believers in a 'god' or 'gods' call Him, they believe in this 'Supreme Being'.​


We believe Allah (arabic word for 'God') is the Supreme being who we should serve and obey, all other religions serve other created beings as associates with this God. I.e. christians serve Jesus, who is a slave and creation, and infact an honored Messenger of God. Polytheists serve hand made idols or nature. Other people serve their desires in preference to anything else.



Muslims are the only beings who submit to and serve the Supreme Being
alone without associating His creation as partners to Him. This is why they -Muslims- are worthy of His exclusive reward.


On Judgment Day - God will reward those who served Him fully and sincerely. Anyone who worshipped/served Jesus, or even Muhammad [a creation of God], or any other human or created object [idol, or themselves etc] - they will be asked to get their rewards from that object, but that object will not be able to reward them because the objects themselves are created beings - expecting reward or punishment from God.



So true success is in serving the Supreme Being, who is One and the All Able. This is why Islam [submission to God] is the true way sent by God, with God sending Human Messengers' for centuries and millenia - calling people to serve Him only, calling to strengthening the family ties, helping those who are close to you, and the needy, encouraging the good and forbidding the evil etc.

This is the basic message of Islam, whoever submits in it will find success for his ownself; happiness in this life and the one to come. Whoever rejects it, then he has the choice to - but he will face the consequences of his ungratefulness.




God answers the prayers of His creation, no matter who are what religion they belong to. He even provides for them in this life, no matter what or who they are. He is so Just - that He will reward those who do good among them in this life accordingly, as a recompense for what they strived for.

If they strived for happiness, He will give them happiness. If they strived for wealth, He will give them wealth. If they strived for pleasure, He will make that path easy for them. Yet if they were sincere in wanting to follow His guidance, and strived for His pleasure and reward - He would reward them in this life AND the one to come. Since He is able to create endless happiness for His thankful slaves.

So when the disbeliever humbles himself to God and asks of Him, God will provide for them. If only he had asked for goodness in this life and the next, and believed - then he would get goodness in both lives.​


It is all a matter of mind choice
, you can pick this world only, or pick both this world and the one to come. Whatever you strive for - you will get.



Peace.
 
Re: Does Islam and or the Quran give a reason why Polytheism can't be true and is wro

Also, hear this famous saying of God;


The Messenger of God, Muhammad (peace be upon him) relates that God said;


O My servants, I have forbidden oppression for Myself and have made it forbidden amongst you, so do not oppress one another. O My servants, all of you are astray except for those I have guided, so seek guidance of Me and I shall guide you, O My servants, all of you are hungry except for those I have fed, so seek food of Me and I shall feed you. O My servants, all of you are naked except for those I have clothed, so seek clothing of Me and I shall clothe you. O My servants, you sin by night and by day, and I forgive all sins, so seek forgiveness of Me and I shall forgive you.

O My servants, you will not attain harming Me so as to harm Me, and will not attain benefitting Me so as to benefit Me. O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to be as pious as the most pious heart of any one man of you, that would not increase My kingdom in anything. O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to be as wicked as the most wicked heart of any one man of you, that would not decrease My kingdom in anything. O My servants, were the first of you and the last of you, the human of you and the jinn of you to rise up in one place and make a request of Me, and were I to give everyone what he requested, that would not decrease what I have, any more that a needle decreases the sea if put into it. O My servants, it is but your deeds that I reckon up for you and then recompense you for, so let him finds good praise Allah and let him who finds other that blame no one but himself.

It was related [and recorded] by Muslim (also by at-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah).




 
Re: Does Islam and or the Quran give a reason why Polytheism can't be true and is wro

Would it be right to say that God has to one because God is not in need of partners or other gods to help God create everything and everyone there is only a need for one God am I right ?
 
Re: Does Islam and or the Quran give a reason why Polytheism can't be true and is wro

Would it be right to say that God has to one because God is not in need of partners or other gods to help God create everything and everyone there is only a need for one God am I right ?


Yeah :) And if there were alot of 'gods', they wouldn't be gods - since the One God is Supreme.

Lots of 'gods' cannot be Supreme (as they would be competing with each other). And if they were competing with each other, the whole Universe would be destroyed by now.
 
Re: Does Islam and or the Quran give a reason why Polytheism can't be true and is wro

We have no means to prove that other gods besides Allaah(swt), do not exist. We have no reason to believe other gods exist. We have Allaah(swt)'s own words that He is but one.

While we can not prove that other gods do not exist, we have no evidence to show that they do. Just some thoughts:

1. Allaah(swt) has said he is but one

2. We have not seen anything created by anyone besides being created by Allaah(swt)

3. No other god has ever revealed himself to mankind.

4. No proof of the existence of other gods has been found.
 
Re: Can anyone answer the question to why Humans and Apes are both called Primates an

Good posts my next question is should we say that Human Evolution is false because God created Humans
different from Animals also Humans and Apes may look alike in a few ways but God still made Humans to be
different from Animals I mean if there is life on other planets that looks Human in a few ways that does not mean we came from them sameway with Human Evolution.
 
Re: Does Islam and or the Quran give a reason why Polytheism can't be true and is wro

polythiesm is wrong because it leads away from god,

anybody can worship anything and believe in anything but it is only wrong because true understanding and reward are not achieved.

forgive me in my harshness,
it may have been a cow or a calf that brought you to something of understanding or reward, but the day you praise the calf or the cow you have forgotten what led the cow or the calf.
and that is why polythiesm is wrong, even in reward people are quick to forget or heedless of understanding.
 
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Re: Can anyone answer the question to why Humans and Apes are both called Primates an

Good posts my next question is should we say that Human Evolution is false because God created Humans

While that statement is true, it has a big draw back as by saying it it gives the implication that Allaah(swt) did not create the other creatures.

I think it should be a bit more complete such as:

When Allaah(swt) created humans he created the first man directly in finished form and did not use the mechanics of evolution.
 
Was the Prophet Muhammad a White Skinned Arab ?

Was the Prophet Muhammad a White Skinned Arab ?

Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367:

Narrated 'Abdul 'Aziz:
Anas said, 'When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, 'Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.' He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, 'Muhammad (has come).' (Some of our companions added, "With his army.") We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, 'O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.' The Prophet said, 'Go and take any slave girl.' He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, 'O Allah's Apostles! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.' So the Prophet said, 'Bring him along with her.' So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, 'Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.' Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her." Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet . So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, 'Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.' He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-SawTq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walrma (the marriage banquet) of Allah's Apostle ."

Volume 2, Book 17, Number 141:

Narrated Anas bin Malik The Prophet never raised his hands for any invocation except for that of Istisqa' and he used to raise them so much that the whiteness of his armpits became visible. (Note: It may be that Anas did not see the Prophet raising his hands, but it is narrated that the Prophet used to raise his hands for invocations other than Istisqa. See Hadith No. 807 & 808 and also see Hadith No. 612, Vol. 5).

Volume 1, Book 3, Number 63:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:
While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: "Who amongst you is Muhammad?" At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The an then addressed him, "O Son of 'Abdul Muttalib." The Prophet said, "I am here to answer your questions." The man said to the Prophet, "I want to ask you something and will be hard in questioning. So do not get angry." The Prophet said, "Ask whatever you want." The man said, "I ask you by your Lord, and the Lord of those who were before you, has Allah sent you as an Apostle to all the mankind?" The Prophet replied, "By Allah, yes." The man further said, "I ask you by Allah. Has Allah ordered you to offer five prayers in a day and night (24 hours).? He replied, "By Allah, Yes." The man further said, "I ask you by Allah! Has Allah ordered you to observe fasts during this month of the year (i.e. Ramadan)?" He replied, "By Allah, Yes." The man further said, "I ask you by Allah. Has Allah ordered you to take Zakat (obligatory charity) from our rich people and distribute it amongst our poor people?" The Prophet replied, "By Allah, yes." Thereupon that man said, "I have believed in all that with which you have been sent, and I have been sent by my people as a messenger, and I am Dimam bin Tha'laba from the brothers of Bani Sa'd bin Bakr."

Volume 2, Book 17, Number 122:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Dinar: My father said, "I heard Ibn 'Umar reciting the poetic verses of Abu Talib: And a white (person) (i.e. the Prophet) who is requested to pray for rain and who takes care of the orphans and is the guardian of widows." Salim's father (Ibn 'Umar) said, "The following poetic verse occurred to my mind while I was looking at the face of the Prophet (p.b.u.h) while he was praying for rain. He did not get down till the rain water flowed profusely from every roof-g utter: And a white (person) who is requested to pray for rain and who takes care of the orphans and is the guardian of widows . . . And these were the words of Abu Talib."


Volume 4, Book 56, Number 744:

Narrated Isma'il bin Abi Khalid: I heard Abii Juhaifa saying, "I saw the Prophet, and Al-Hasan bin 'Ali resembled him." I said to Abu- Juhaifa, "Describe him for me." He said, "He was white and his beard was black with some white hair. He promised to give us 13 young she-camels, but he expired before we could get them."

Volume 4, Book 56, Number 747:

Narrated Rabia bin Abi Abdur-Rahman: I heard Anas bin Malik describing the Prophet saying, "He was of medium height amongst the people, neither tall nor short; he had a rosy color, neither absolutely white nor deep brown; his hair was neither completely curly nor quite lank. Divine Inspiration was revealed to him when he was forty years old. He stayed ten years in Mecca receiving the Divine Inspiration, and stayed in Medina for ten more years. When he expired, he had scarcely twenty white hairs in his head and beard." Rabi'a said, "I saw some of his hairs and it was red. When I asked about that, I was told that it turned red because of scent. "



 
Re: Was the Prophet Muhammad a White Skinned Arab ?

Shhhh, it is a hidden secret. The Arabs are Caucasian. As such there are both dark skinned and light skinned among them. Caucasians come in a fairly large variation of pigmentation.

Come to think of it this is a bit of a pointless question. There is no color in Islam, we are all Muslim. Who cares or even has any reason to care if Muhammad(PBUH) was light or dark skinned.

However since he was Arab I guess it is safe to assume he was darker than the average Swede and lighter than the average Zulu.
 
Re: Was the Prophet Muhammad a White Skinned Arab ?

Well it is most likely Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) would be dark. If you live in hot countries, people are usually dark skinned...then again, I have been some Arabs who have really light skin.
 
Re: Was the Prophet Muhammad a White Skinned Arab ?

most of d men nd women n UAE tht iv seen are really fair..nd beautiful.
 
Re: Was the Prophet Muhammad a White Skinned Arab ?

Hmm. I think this is one of those questions that isn't of great concern. One of the things that I love about Islam is that there is no color. There are no white mosques, arab mosques, black mosques, latino mosques. Just one people.

As Woodrow said, who cares. Focus on Islam.
 
I have talked to Christians about the Trinity and they say why can't God be three per

I have talked to Christians about the Trinity and they say why can't God be three persons why is that not possible if we use logic in my opinion if God is pefect why would there be any need for more than one God therefor Polytheism is false and Montheism is true God needs no partners therefor God is one.
 
Re: I have talked to Christians about the Trinity and they say why can't God be three

God is infinite.
Jesus was finite.

Hence Jesus =/ God


Logic and reason do not support trinity.
Jesus own sayings and actions also do not support trinity.

So what is trinity based on?
letters of paul, selective omissions of authentic gospels, mistranslations (and re-retranslations), misinterpretations (and re-reinterpretations), and whims and desires of men.
 
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Re: Does Islam and or the Quran give a reason why Polytheism can't be true and is wro

Dear Truthseeker,

It is the requirement of dominion and rulership not to accept rivals; they reject partnership; they repudiate interference. It is because of this that if there are two headmen in a village, they will destroy its tranquillity and order. Or if there are two chief officials in a district, or two governors in a province, they will cause chaos. Or if there are two kings in a country, they will cause complete and stormy confusion. Since a pale shadow and petty example of dominion and rulership in impotent human beings needy for assistance does not accept the interference of rivals, opponents, or peers, then you may compare how fully a rulership which is in the form of absolute sovereignty and a dominion at the degree of dominicality will enforce that law of the rejection of interference in One Possessing Absolute Power. That is to say, the most definite and constant necessity of Godhead and dominicality are unity and singleness. The clear proof and certain testimony to this are the perfect order and beautiful harmony in the universe. There is such an order from the wing of a fly to the lamps in the heavens that the intellect prostrates before it in wonder and appreciation, declaring: “Glory be to God! What wonders God has willed! How great are God’s blessings!” Had there been an iota of space for partners to God, and had there been interference, as the verse,

"If there were in the heavens and the earth other gods besides God, there would have been confusion in both" Qur’an, 21:22

indicates, the order would have been destroyed, the form changed, and signs of disorder would have appeared. But as the verses,

"So turn your vision again: do you see any flaw? * Then turn your vision a second time; your vision will come back to you in a state dazzled and truly defeated" Qur’an, 67:3-4.

state and point out, however much the human gaze tries to find faults, it can find none anywhere, and returns worn out to its dwelling, the eye, and says to the fault-finding mind who sent it: “I am worn out for nothing; there are no faults.” This shows that the order and regularity are most perfect. That is to say, the order in the universe is a definitive witness to Divine unity.

From: http://www.lightofquran.info/33word.htm
 
Re: Does the Quran and any other Islamic text say we should love God or Allah more th

Dear Truthseeker,


O soul and O friend! Two faculties, through which one may experience fear and love, have been included in man’s nature. This love and fear are bound to be turned towards either creatures or Creator. However, fear of creatures is a grievous affliction, while love for them is a calamitous tribulation. For you will fear people who will neither pity you nor accept your pleas for mercy. So fear is a grievous calamity. As for love, the one you love will either not recognize you or will depart without bidding you farewell. Like your youth and property. Or else he will despise you because of your love. Have you not noticed that in ninety-nine out of a hundred cases of metaphorical love, the lover complains about the beloved. For to love and idolize worldly beloveds with the inner heart, which is the mirror of the Eternally Besought One, oppresses the beloved, and he finds it disagreeable and rejects it. Because man’s nature rejects and casts away things that are contrary to it and unworthy of it. (Physical loves are outside our discussion.)
That is to say, the things you love either will not recognize you, or they will scorn you, or they will not accompany you. They will part from you in spite of you. Since this is so, direct your fear and love to the One by Whom your fear will become pleasurable abasement, and your love, shadowless happiness. Yes, to fear the Glorious Creator means finding a way to His compassionate mercy, and taking refuge in it. Fear is a whip; it drives you into the embrace of His mercy. It is well-known that a mother gently scares her infant, for example, and draws it to her breast. The fear is most pleasurable for the child, because it drives him to her tender embrace. Whereas the tenderness of all mothers is but a flash of Divine mercy. That means there is a supreme pleasure in fear of God. If there is such pleasure in fear of God, it is clear what infinite pleasure there is to be found in love of God. Moreover, one who fears God is saved from the calamitous and distressing fear of others. Also, because it is for God’s sake, the love he has for creatures is not tinged with sorrow and separation.
 
Re: Does the Quran and any other Islamic text say we should love God or Allah more th

Does the Quran and any other Islamic text say we should love God or Allah more than anyone else anybody or anything else ?

wa aleykum salaam
my friend;
first of all.<>i would like to point out that God cannot be ALLAH
i would like also to bring to yr attention that:-

(1:1) In the name of
Allah,
the Merciful, the Compassionate

Now...the two above we all humans are enjoying His Mercy and Rahma
No matter if any thank Him or Not......
i feel like i have to give a little example may be i may be a little clear.

"Say you a drowning-shouting for help"
from nowhere you see a hand graping you out of that near by death; WHAT would be your thanks or how Much Love you will feel for that hand?
so when it is said " You will have to Love Allah and His Prophet; Your that love is not as human translate but love of somebody to lead you to the truth{see how much Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) wa Ailatuhu, wa Azwajuhu, wa dhuriyatuhu,wa as haabuhu....have suffered till today we see Islam Thinking deeply One is left with no choice but Love how much they stretched their hands to save me/and you come to our sense that "Laa Ilaha Ila LLAH" Muhammad His Messenger, being that love of yours then there comes the Love of Allah, for sending such bearer of good tidings and did not leave you UNAWARE of His Presence...His Rahma.

above all if any love Allah ...that will have not much weight
comparing to "His Love to us"
for sending one of his Servants,as a Final Risala

Let us NOT waste this glorious opportunity.

Ya Rab
Nsur Islaam wa L musliim
wa Eyidhum bil haq wa Diin.

Birahmatika Yaa Arham Raahimiiyn
 
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Re: Does Islam and or the Quran give a reason why Polytheism can't be true and is wro

Polythiesm is wrong because there is only Oone God, and to worship any other than that Oone God will be worshipping fasle 'gods' when we should be worshipping the only True one

It's sort of like, when a person grows up, he shares the thanks and gratefullness that he owes his parents, with other men and women as well, giing only a little amount of gratitude to his parents in the process and disavowing his parents sole upbringing of him, thus spoiling the sincrerity of his gratefullness to them too, for sincere gratefullness will involve the acknowledgement [and thus showing it in action too] of his parents being his sole upbringer

now if your question is, what is the proof of their being only one God and not others?, then i'd say the equilibrium in the universe, points to only One Creator having created and controlling it, for if there were many Gods, there indeed would have been chaos in the universe, such as one God wanting it to rain and the other wanting sunshine etc, or other wanting a different creation etc,

the ultimate evidence which we have of there being only One God is the Quran and the prophet muhammad [saw] saying so, for their is tons of evidence of their veracity. thus we have God and His Messenger themselves telling us of the truth regarding it
 

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