What would be the benefits of the Sharia/Khilafah ? I think non Muslims should suppor

τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1415907 said:



In other words you can't elucidate your point so that those pitiful minds that frequent the forum can basque in the credence of your words? Maybe you should do some research before writing empty meaningless words that have no basis in reality beyond the prettiness of their meaning.. the life buoy you threw yourself this time is deflated (as it often is)

all the best

Pitiful minds or not, the explanation you ask for would take too long as it requires me to start from scratch. Considering that any information I could give you is freely available in the literature, I don't really see the point in providing the explanation you ask for. If you are too lazy to research for yourself or if you don't have the time to research for yourself, maybe you ought to take into account that I might be too busy to teach you something over an internet message board that entire university courses are designed t to teach.


ThisOldMan

There is nothing wrong at all with Islam and the hukum. The problem begins when some people implement their own personal agendas in the name of Islam. The current economic model and legal structure is not based on the truth of Islam. Does it work? Let me give you a simple illustration: In Thailand, there are many people involved in prostitution. Women sell their bodies to get money to buy food for their children. They also use this money to send their children to school. Does this mean that prostitution is a viable economic model? To know the answer, you should ask the prostitutes whose mothers have been prostitutes before them. Before dying of Aids. Back on topic. There is a very real reason why riba is banned in Islam. Use a simple calculator and find out for yourself. Even just one percent compounded interest adds up to a tremendous amount. Which is great if you are the lender. Terrible if you are the lendee, so to say. Of course, the lender must be rich to start with. And the lendee must be poor. That's how the rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer. I don't think it will happen overnight but we can always make a start by practicing the Sharia wherever and whenever we can. Like in our homes. Insha Allah.

As I've mentioned to GuestFellow, eliminating interest in the financial system does not mean Shariah is being applied. Importing Shariah involves a whole lot more than just banning interest, most of which are not in the best interest of non-muslims. As Woodrow said so wisely, Shariah would only work if everyone believed the system was created by God.
 
As good as it sounds, I don't have as much faith in us as people to be able to pull this off. I'm sorry but it's true. You and me may have the best intentions in the world, but not everyone will look at this as a way to help everyone.
 
Pitiful minds or not, the explanation you ask for would take too long as it requires me to start from scratch. Considering that any information I could give you is freely available in the literature, I don't really see the point in providing the explanation you ask for. If you are too lazy to research for yourself or if you don't have the time to research for yourself, maybe you ought to take into account that I might be too busy to teach you something over an internet message board that entire university courses are designed t to teach.

If it is so freely available why do you waste everyone's time writing utter drivel when you can wow us with your smarts? You make repeated non-points in the time you could have taken to validate your claims yet come here expecting that we do your homework for you? Everyone can see through the transparency of your charade so why do you insist on making a fool of yourself?
 
τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1416132 said:


If it is so freely available why do you waste everyone's time writing utter drivel when you can wow us with your smarts? You make repeated non-points in the time you could have taken to validate your claims yet come here expecting that we do your homework for you? Everyone can see through the transparency of your charade so why do you insist on making a fool of yourself?

If you think reading my posts is a waste of time then you have no one to blame but yourself. No one forces you to read what I type so please don't accuse me of wasting 'everyone's time'; you are free like everyone else to read the posts you want to read and to respond to the posts you want to respond to. :)

Also, the time it would take to answer your question is much greater than the time I have invested in the thread so far. Again, if you are so curious you can go to your local library and do the research on your own. This is a message board, not an online course on economics.......if I could explain everything in a paragraph I would but it will take significantly more work to compile the information and I am not willing to put the effort to do that.
 
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If you think reading my posts is a waste of time then you have no one to blame but yourself. No one forces you to read what I type so please don't accuse me of wasting 'everyone's time'; you are free like everyone else to read the posts you want to read and to respond to the posts you want to respond to. :)

Also, the time it would take to answer your question is much greater than the time I have invested in the thread so far. Again, if you are so curious you can go to your local library and do the research on your own. This is a message board, not an online course on economics.......if I could explain everything in a paragraph I would but it will take significantly more work to compile the information and I am not willing to put the effort to do that.

Why don't you cut the crap and corroborate your claims? If you can't put up then shut up!

all the best
 
τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1416169 said:


Why don't you cut the crap and corroborate your claims? If you can't put up then shut up!

all the best

I can't be bothered. I don't expect you to teach someone intro to biology on an internet forum so please return the courtesy.
 
I can't be bothered. I don't expect you to teach someone intro to biology on an internet forum so please return the courtesy.

If I had a point to make with biology then I do take the time to teach it. That is the whole point of my 'Medical student review thread' as well many other threads of similar nature--as far as everyone's concerned you can't validate your point and that is the only reason you've made 7-8 posts dodging an honest reply!
 
τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1416174 said:


If I had a point to make with biology then I do take the time to teach it. That is the whole point of my 'Medical student review thread' as well many other threads of similar nature--as far as everyone's concerned you can't validate your point and that is the only reason you've made 7-8 posts dodging an honest reply!

I know you have started several threads like the medical student review but what I said was "i don't expect you to". This is a strange internet forum mentality you have; you know that a body of literature exists that will answer your question, but instead you choose to ignore it and you want me, specifically, to take time out of my day and explain something that has already been explained numerous times in various articles/books. I get that you think it's easier if I just summarize all of the research and theories into one post but you're not taking into account that I am just as disinclined to complete such a task as you are disinclined to go the library and figure out the answer for yourself. You can think I am dodging the issue if you want; frankly I am plainly telling you that I am not going through the trouble to answer your question. The way I see it if you were truly interested in learning about the topic then you would have made some sort of intention to visit the library (or download books or w/e) as I suggested. Since you do not possess any genuine interest in learning about the topic I won't feel guilty leaving you in your cloud of ignorance. This back and forth dialogue has gone longer than I wanted to but as you can tell this type of behavior on internet forums is a pet peeve on mine. Imagine how I feel when people start threads like "is the theory of evolution true"; well genius, there are probably a billion discussions on a billion internet forums on top of the millions of scholarly work done on topic. Why not just use the precious google button and stop being lazy !
 
I know you have started several threads like the medical student review but what I said was "i don't expect you to". This is a strange internet forum mentality you have; you know that a body of literature exists that will answer your question, but instead you choose to ignore it and you want me, specifically, to take time out of my day and explain something that has already been explained numerous times in various articles/books. I get that you think it's easier if I just summarize all of the research and theories into one post but you're not taking into account that I am just as disinclined to complete such a task as you are disinclined to go the library and figure out the answer for yourself. You can think I am dodging the issue if you want; frankly I am plainly telling you that I am not going through the trouble to answer your question. The way I see it if you were truly interested in learning about the topic then you would have made some sort of intention to visit the library (or download books or w/e) as I suggested. Since you do not possess any genuine interest in learning about the topic I won't feel guilty leaving you in your cloud of ignorance. This back and forth dialogue has gone longer than I wanted to but as you can tell this type of behavior on internet forums is a pet peeve on mine. Imagine how I feel when people start threads like "is the theory of evolution true"; well genius, there are probably a billion discussions on a billion internet forums on top of the millions of scholarly work done on topic. Why not just use the precious google button and stop being lazy !


I told you to cut the crap put up or shut up.. either prove your point or admit that you've made another non-point. I can't stand all this worthless verbiage.. You have the time to write this much crap and don't have the time to put together a cohesive abstract? I mean we already know why, but why do you insist on the charade?
 
τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1416192 said:



I told you to cut the crap put up or shut up.. either prove your point or admit that you've made another non-point. I can't stand all this worthless verbiage.. You have the time to write this much crap and don't have the time to put together a cohesive abstract? I mean we already know why, but why do you insist on the charade?

Yes I have the time to write this much crap because the crap I am writing takes no time or effort at all. Why do you have an aversion to independent learning?
 


There is much truth in this statement:
the crap I am writing takes no time or effort at all.



Thank you for at least admitting the obvious.. quit concocting B.S and sticking it on forums as if factual.. least of which when you can't sustain it!
 
What would be the benefits of the Sharia/Khilafah ?

The key benefits would be a safe and fair society with low crime rates, where families could raise their children in peace, knowing that anyone breaking Allah's laws would be dealt with swiftly and severely in order to protect the reat of society, insha'allah.
 

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