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Is there a war against Islam ? I ask this question because many non Muslims seem to think the that the so called war on terro is not a war against Islam I disagree I think that this war is the modern day Crusades. I think the West is trying to push and force Muslims to become Secular like the West is does anyone here agree with me ?
 
Undoubtedly, disbelievers want to "secularize" Muslims. This is neither unexpected nor strange because we have been warned in the Qur'an that this would happen.

However, if Muslims were true Muslims; if they strictly adhered to basic Islamic values - if they used their brains a little bit more (!) - no force in the world would be able to harm us. Why?


Allah (SWT) clearly mentions in the Qur'an [42:30] وَمَا أَصَابَكُم مِّن مُّصِيبَةٍ فَبِمَا كَسَبَتْ أَيْدِيكُمْ وَيَعْفُو عَن كَثِيرٍ


"Anything bad that happens to you is a consequence of your own deeds, and He overlooks many (of your sins)."
 
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I think the West is trying to push and force Muslims to become Secular like the West is does anyone here agree with me ?
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The west are actually afraid that If Islam spreads , they can no longer enjoy ( no more alcohol,drugs, prostitution, pornography , discos etc ) that why the west media tries to malign islam and the more they malign islam the more Islam actually spreads

http://www.sultan.org/articles/convert.html


And they planned , Allah also plans and the best of planners is Allah. Quran 3:54
 
Airforce said:
and the more they malign islam the more Islam actually spreads
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I sooo wish this was true. IMHO, millions of Muslims in Muslim countries are slowly adopting western values; some countries more than others, but this is the general trend!
 
Huzzy_786 said:
Have any of you heard of EDL? For those who live in England?
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Who claim they're against those who advocate Shariah but aren't against Muslims? :giggling: Typical English thinking...
 
We can thank the Western media for it's portrayal of Islam for the hatred. People don't understand and when they hear the "talking points" that's all they hear. They don't bother to do outside research either, and just believe what they've been told. I discussed this last night with a Brother and we've both come to the conclusion that if more Americans would go out and do some research they would know not to be afraid.
 
JeffX said:
We can thank the Western media for it's portrayal of Islam for the hatred. People don't understand and when they hear the "talking points" that's all they hear. They don't bother to do outside research either, and just believe what they've been told. I discussed this last night with a Brother and we've both come to the conclusion that if more Americans would go out and do some research they would know not to be afraid.
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I don't think there is a war against Islam.

Not yet.

There is a war Islam is waging all over the world... but, people are slow in the West. You almost have to slam them into buildings...

Ha, Ha...
 
Mike3449 said:
You almost have to slam them into buildings... Ha, Ha...
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yeah with plastic knives and invisible planes.. that is indeed funny.. so where does all that western bravado come from one often wonders.. but I suppose gigantic bodies and bird brain will carpet bomb everything..

OP.. there is indeed a war against Islam and Muslims.. bit never fear, we're an ancient passionate people.. we ALWAYS come up on top!

:w:
 
τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1417186 said:



yeah with plastic knives and invisible planes.. that is indeed funny.. so where does all that western bravado come from one often wonders.. but I suppose gigantic bodies and bird brain will carpet bomb everything..

OP.. there is indeed a war against Islam and Muslims.. bit never fear, we're an ancient passionate people.. we ALWAYS come up on top!

:w:
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:) Well said.

To answer your question, I don't think there is a war on Islam per se but more a war on Muslims. From my experience it just seems that people in the West no longer want Muslims to adhere to the teachings of the faith so they'll be like everyone else. They don't want that ummah to grow. There is a common saying where I live that "Islam is the only religion that is still practiced today."

Goes with the whole idea that people are afraid of what they don't understand.I don't believe they'll succeed. They'll try, but no.
 
τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1417186 said:



yeah with plastic knives and invisible planes.. that is indeed funny.. so where does all that western bravado come from one often wonders.. but I suppose gigantic bodies and bird brain will carpet bomb everything..

OP.. there is indeed a war against Islam and Muslims.. bit never fear, we're an ancient passionate people.. we ALWAYS come up on top!

:w:
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1400 YEARS... that is not ancient.

But, zIslam has destroyed ancient. Is that any consolation?

The Persian Empire... The Egyptian Empire.

Imagine what those would look like today?

Egypt probably would have went to the Moon 1000 years ago.

But, the Arabs invaded.
 
Mike3449 said:
1400 YEARS... that is not ancient.

But, zIslam has destroyed ancient. Is that any consolation?

The Persian Empire... The Egyptian Empire.

Imagine what those would look like today?

Egypt probably would have went to the Moon 1000 years ago.

But, the Arabs invaded.
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What do you have against Islam/Arabs? ^o)
 
Mike3449 said:
1400 YEARS... that is not ancient. But, zIslam has destroyed ancient. Is that any consolation? The Persian Empire... The Egyptian Empire. Imagine what those would look like today? Egypt probably would have went to the Moon 1000 years ago. But, the Arabs invaded.
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Islam is the religion that has always been. As an Egyptian I am grateful that Islam came to Egypt and took it out of paganism to the age of reason and enlightenment.. Every Muslim will attest to their gratitude to the gift that enabled their people (the same ancient people) to not only progress in the material sense but the spiritual one as can only be fulfilled by the reason of Islam.. Indeed Egyptians would have attained greater good if they'd remained a part of the Muslim empire which dissolved 200 years ago, in lieu of the corrupt secular system that is imposed by the west and perpetuated by despots and parroted by the stupids (like you)--Only Islam has given the world both material enlightenment and spiritual fulfillment.. and its age of reason while Europe mired in the dark ages is a testament to its divine glory!

all the best
 
Airforce said:
The west are actually afraid that If Islam spreads , they can no longer enjoy ( no more alcohol,drugs, prostitution, pornography , discos etc ) that why the west media tries to malign islam and the more they malign islam the more Islam actually spreads
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Well, such encroachment into said activities by Muslims in the western world is not happening - but let's propose hypothetically that it was: Would you blame Non-Muslims for wanting to safeguard their personal liberties?
 
I'm personally all for everyone's personal liberties, but their is a good amount of unjustified anger, fear as well aimed at our community. The protest at the fund-raiser in California is evident of that.
 
Mike3449 said:
I don't think there is a war against Islam.

Not yet.

There is a war Islam is waging all over the world... but, people are slow in the West. You almost have to slam them into buildings...

Ha, Ha...
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If Muslims are "waging wars all over the world" then why are Muslim lands under occupation and our natural resources plundered by kafir westerners? Why are dictators being installed to serve western interests? Apparently we are not fighting hard enough?

Why are western states conducting overt and covert operations to topple our governments or to assassinate our leaders and scientists? Why are western states always meddling in our internal affairs???

Did it ever occur to you that the opposite might be the case; that the West is waging wars against Islam and/or to plunder other nations' natural resources, both of which are crimes against humanity??


"And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only!" [Verse 2:11]
 
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The west are actually afraid that If Islam spreads , they can no longer enjoy ( no more alcohol,drugs, prostitution, pornography , discos etc ) that why the west media tries to malign islam and the more they malign islam the more Islam actually spreads
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i agree with this........actually its a war btw the "commitment to religion" and "freedom". i blv mostly these ppl are not following Christianity or Judaism, Hinduism or what so ever they have religion...bcz in most of religions eating pork, alcohol is prohibited and they stress in modest dressing, but ppl dont like these restriction, they want to follow their own desires. they want a "freedom" in life. so they are only against islam bcz in islam there are still these restriction and commitment to the GOD, however they are changed other religion according to their desires. so no christian feel bad while eating pork or taking alcohol.
 

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