Muslim Woman taken off plane

[Argamemnon]

]Only a fool would say that Muslims are not discriminated against.

Well, from the comments I read below articles about Islam/Muslims I usually get the impression that most westerners are fools. No offense!

What happened to that women was horrible and I hope she gets what she is asking for.

I'm glad to hear you say this.

I hate all ignorant people, whether it is an irrational fear or hatred of Muslims or of Jews. Some people, though, condemn one and condone the other.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. I also hate lumping people together in categories (Jews, Muslims, atheists, etc.). When I'm talking about "the Kuffar", I'm only referring to the haters and warmongers. I have absolutely no issues with disbelievers who don't oppress, discriminate or fight against Muslims!!! Any sincere Muslim will agree with me. Everybody has the right to reject Islam, but NOBODY has the right to fight or discriminate against Muslims for being Muslim. When this happens though Muslims are obligated to struggle against this oppression ("jihad").

I really can't stand haters and whether they are atheist, Christian or Muslim is totally irrelevant to me. I mean it from the bottom of my heart. But I'm not so sure about the majority of non-Muslims as well as many Muslims. In my humble opinion, the majority of people are worthless scum. Call me a misanthrope if you want, I don't care..

 

[joedawun]

Have you read some of the comments below that article? It shows the sheer hatred of the Kuffar against Islam and Muslims. these people have completely lost it. Men, they are scary. It's hard to consider them human.

Scary is when one dehumanizes one's opponents.

 

[Argamemnon]

Scary is when one dehumanizes one's opponents.

Exactly, and they do it constantly, in the media.. basically everywhere. They also act on it by supporting their governments and armies that attack Muslim nations and massacre hundreds of thousands of Muslims. You are totally right!

 

[joedawun]

Exactly, and they do it constantly, in the media.. basically everywhere. I agree.

As you did above, as well.

 

[Argamemnon]

No, I'm merely revealing western hypocrisy, I'm revealing the true face of western civilization. A civilization which is based on genocides and exploitation and violence, but likes to demonize others. And no, this doesn't mean that all individuals in the west are warmongers and oppressors.

 

[Argamemnon]

Look, it's very simple. Muslims and Muslim nations are VICTIMS of western imperialism and terrorism, and yet we are blamed for being the terrorists. Your education systems and all your civil and government institutions and media are together in this game. You are basically teaching your youth that Muslims are evil terrorists when YOUR governments and institutions are attacking and terrorizing Muslims. If we really want to stop this, we must keep revealing the truth no matter how painful this is to you and your countrymen) and keep educating people. Remaining silent will be counterproductive. I'm just demonizing the demons there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[Argamemnon]

Have you read some of the comments below that article? It shows the sheer hatred of the Kuffar against Islam and Muslims. these people have completely lost it. Men, they are scary. It's hard to consider them human.

I'm referring to the haters, the hypocrites and liars of those societies only. I never said that all westerners are our enemy. I LOVE decent human beings such as Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein, I like them more than many so-called Muslims.

English is not my native language and I'm bound to make mistakes when posting, but I'm only demonizing the demons and don't see anything wrong with that? I also despise Mubarak and Qadhafi and all other oppressors and hypocrites who support such people in the world.

 

[Argamemnon]

Scary is when one dehumanizes one's opponents.

Do you turn the other cheek when someone wants to kill or oppress you? You are free to believe what you want, but remember; I'm not a Christian. I don't share your worldview and beliefs.

Peace

 

[joedawun]

Do you turn the other cheek when someone wants to kill or oppress you? You are free to believe what you want, but remember; I'm not a Christian. I don't share your worldview and beliefs.

Peace

No I don't, for I could never be sufficiently Christ like to allow others to walk all over me...I will be a formidable foe if I or my loved ones are threatened. However, I also don't demonize or dehumanize anyone in the process of disagreeing with them or not believing as they do. To do so would make it all too easy to become the oppressor, and to justify oppressing the "other" as being less than human and therefore worthy of being oppressed. That is where I took exception to your earlier pronouncement.

 

[جوري]

There is no love lost for such people.. It also makes it very difficult to distinguish good from bad because the prevailing sentiment is very anti-Islamic.. Everyday more than the day before I grow to despise westerners more and more...

for I could never be sufficiently Christ like to allow others to walk all over me.

interesting comment there.. you think christ which by your definition is 'God' allows people to walk all over him?

what a religion and what a people..

 

[Argamemnon]

There is no love lost for such people..

Well said sis.. how do you call this in English "short but sweet" ?.. better than my seemingly wild, incoherent and emotional articulations, lol. I'm somewhat restricted by the English language...

 

[GuestFellow]

I think some members need to calm down.

http://www.10news.com/news/27217241/detail.html?source=sand

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Thank you both for posting this. It was an interesting comparison.

I do not see this as an issue of racism but paranoia. I think some people are frightened about the possibility of another attack. The mainstream media is to be blamed for the rise of moral panic.

The airline should be concerned about the safety of the passengers and investigate any suspicious activity. It was unfair to target this Muslim women because she was stopped for no reason and she even offered to be questioned.

The airline did issue a public apology and even offered a voucher. In my opinion, this is a reasonable offer. The airline should perform an internal investigation on spotting suspicious activity.