Osama Bin Laden has been killed

[جوري]

These guys also r so smug when he says "focus on Pakistan"... & that smug (Timothy J. Roemer ) who u see noding on "Focus on Pakistan" is now US embassader to india... controlling terrorist activities from nearby...

It really would be nice if Pakistan started their own revolution. Imagine the U.S misery unable as it so put their tentacles in Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Libya before things get out of control.. I certainly do hope that you guys in Pakistan get organized and have a strong enough middle class to say enough with despots and enough with foreign invaders!

 

[جوري]

I really think we will see a false flag operation soon, that is much more worse than 9/11 and as a result more countries will be invaded. They're preparing the minds of the public for it all ready by talking about reprisal attacks on the news.

Even if that were the case they haven't the resources nor the backing to do it, as is they're unable to get out of Afghanistan or Iraq and the mess in the middle east is spelling disaster for them in terms of their cockroach Zionist friends!

 

[sur]

A nuke from 2007? Most probably it would not detonate. those puppies had to be fed very often. If memory serves me right the core has a very short span of usability. It seem the AF used to replace them once a month although the life expectancy was a bout 1 year.

The core is radioactive and as such does decay. It soon reaches a point where it no longer has critical mass. If a nuke does go bang, it is very doubtful it would have been from that missile.

Full powered boom might be too much for "perpetrators" of False-Flag, to handle,,, they probably planned a "dirty" one that can use depleted material... or just "DISCOVER" one sitting somewhere & come-up with a narrative that it was from Pakistan...

 

[yas2010]

Salaam sis

I certainly do hope that you guys in Pakistan get organized and have a strong enough middle class to say enough with despots and enough with foreign invaders!

Praying for this. Its okay for the leaders aka the cockroaches they will run off to their penthouses in the west!

 

[جوري]

Salaam sis



Praying for this. Its okay for the leaders aka the cockroaches they will run off to their penthouses in the west!

wa3lykoum aslaam ukhty,

Not unless they're brought to trials like the dogs of Egypt..
I never thought I'd live to see the day, yet here it is sob7an moghyer al'a7wal..
I really think this is a golden opportunity for Pakistanis to do just that!

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

......before anyone gets on a hype about this...have they not noticed something? Someone theyve been hunting for all these years apparently...they jus killed and tossed in the sea? No media coverage? No pictures, no videos? No display case of his body? (Astaghfirullah..)
When they were going to hang Saddam...he was all over the news...pictures, videos...EVERYTHING. Even a video of his hanging. And yet someone who to them is WORSE...they put out nothing? And when this question was asked, they just swept the questions under the rug..why?

Something to think about....if anything he probably died ages ago if he is in fact dead...Allaahu Musta'an.

 

[جوري]

Yeah Osama is their quintessential bad guy, but they have already attempted the pix.. sadly for them it just didn't pan out.. you know they keep dumping all sorts of stories about their heroes and how he used his wife as a shield.. When the news first broke out I get two conflicting newsflashes on my iphone the BBC said it was Afghanistan and CNN said Pakistan.. the problem sadly is that they never tweak the storyline before dumping it on the public.. since stupid people in large numbers are known to overcome the few who bother questioning the faulty details!

 

[yas2010]

Its an interesting question asked by the guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/03/osama-bin-laden-soviet-union-baddie
so who will be the new bogey man for the west?

 

[جوري]

Its an interesting question asked by the guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/03/osama-bin-laden-soviet-union-baddie
so who will be the new bogey man for the west?

Never fear a new villain will enter the foyer pretty soon =)
they love that villain superhero fantasy .. how can life possible exist for them without some sort of bad guy?

 

[Woodrow]

Full powered boom might be too much for "perpetrators" of False-Flag, to handle,,, they probably planned a "dirty" one that can use depleted material... or just "DISCOVER" one sitting somewhere & come-up with a narrative that it was from Pakistan...

That is a scenario I did not think of. A depleted core, powdered and scattered with conventional explosive. that would be nasty in terms of radiation poisoning.

 

[CosmicPathos]

what kind of shia'a are there in Pakistan.. are they complete nutters or close to Sunnis in beliefs?

JZK

different types of shias really. You will get emotional persian/iraqian type nutters who will mutilate their bodies in Muharram ... crazy jangoistic faithfuls .... and then you get sober ones who do not really believe in that stuff and are much closer to Sunnis. I think in terms of theology they are raafidas. The nutter ones, expect them to swear and abuse freely the first 3 caliphs and Ayesha (ra) with innovative name-calling.

 

[CosmicPathos]

It really would be nice if Pakistan started their own revolution. Imagine the U.S misery unable as it so put their tentacles in Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Libya before things get out of control.. I certainly do hope that you guys in Pakistan get organized and have a strong enough middle class to say enough with despots and enough with foreign invaders!

forget this sis, with great sadness I have to say that nothing unite Pakistanis. Mentally they are slaves of the White man, who ruled over them for centuries, be the older generation or the younger generation. Whenever I have conversation with "friends" back home, my expectations are always not met. I expect them to engage with me on deeper topics such as where are we going as Muslims, whats life all about etc rather they love to talk about either Western literature (that of philosophers and godlessness) or shallow moveis and tv shows and non-sense like that. I am afraid to say that I dont know much about hollywood celebrities, while living in the West, as much as they do while living in pak.

Most of pakistani educated youth are convinced that democracy is Islamic ideal. I cant believe that young boys were willing to sacrifice their lives for Benazir by being her guards in crowded settings, they were called Jan-Nisaris (those who offer their lives for someone)

 

[yas2010]

Sad but true.

 

[BoredAgnostic]

I do not know what to believe about OBL, whether he actually was killed in Pakistan or that he was already dead. I don't know how much OBL had to do with 9/11 either. I've been vehemently against both wars since their conception and always will be. What I don't get is people believing that OBL masterminded 9/11, but praising him anyways...and when confronted, they say "well the U.S. killed more people in Iraq and Afghanistan". Seriously? That some how erases the fact that almost 3,000 civilians from all walks of life perished just because they went into work that day? I find it VERY surprising the amount of support on this thread.

 

[جوري]

different types of shias really. You will get emotional persian/iraqian type nutters who will mutilate their bodies in Muharram ... crazy jangoistic faithfuls .... and then you get sober ones who do not really believe in that stuff and are much closer to Sunnis. I think in terms of theology they are raafidas. The nutter ones, expect them to swear and abuse freely the first 3 caliphs and Ayesha (ra) with innovative name-calling.

ughhhh.. do you know what type exists around Islamabad? or do you always get a garden variety.. Oh God.. truly Pakistan and India are lands of wonders as I used to read in fairy tales..

forget this sis, with great sadness I have to say that nothing unite Pakistanis. Mentally they are slaves of the White man, who ruled over them for centuries, be the older generation or the younger generation. Whenever I have conversation with "friends" back home, my expectations are always not met. I expect them to engage with me on deeper topics such as where are we going as Muslims, whats life all about etc rather they love to talk about either Western literature (that of philosophers and godlessness) or shallow moveis and tv shows and non-sense like that. I am afraid to say that I dont know much about hollywood celebrities, while living in the West, as much as they do while living in pak.

Most of pakistani educated youth are convinced that democracy is Islamic ideal. I cant believe that young boys were willing to sacrifice their lives for Benazir by being her guards in crowded settings, they were called Jan-Nisaris (those who offer their lives for someone)

I believed that about Egyptians too, I really did but I was surprised, surely the world that produces the likes of Dr. Ahmad deedat we can find many more like him perhaps subdued by the govt. and other nutters? I am aggrieved to hear this and I hope that it is just the people you've come across and not representative of pakistanis at large.. the least we can do now is pray for their guidance and hope for the best..

Sad but true.

imsad imsad imsad

 

[CosmicPathos]

its funny how atheists want to see God in order believe him yet they dont need to see osama's dead body to believe that he was killed few days ago jsut cuz Obama said so. Blind faith.

 

[جوري]

I do not know what to believe about OBL, whether he actually was killed in Pakistan or that he was already dead. I don't know how much OBL had to do with 9/11 either. I've been vehemently against both wars since their conception and always will be. What I don't get is people believing that OBL masterminded 9/11, but praising him anyways...and when confronted, they say "well the U.S. killed more people in Iraq and Afghanistan". Seriously? That some how erases the fact that almost 3,000 civilians from all walks of life perished just because they went into work that day? I find it VERY surprising the amount of support on this thread.

So which is it? He masterminded 911? or he didn't?
lots of people around the world indeed want to do just that get up in the morning and go to work and provide for their families but it is made difficult by folks like this?

the least disturbing image indeed of its kind!

So are you surprised? one country's quintessential bad guy is another country's freedom fighter!

all the best

 

[Trumble]

You know rhetorical q's have no answers I suppose that is why you put it out there?

It wasn't actually a rhetorical question, although granted I wasn't expecting a reply. Perhaps you have actually have a suggestion?

disposing the 'body' at sea is the second best way next to cremation that is to hide evidence and put a lid on all q's!

As I understand it, cremation is forbidden in Islam. As I understand it, so is burial at sea unless it is impossible to return the body to land within 24 hours; which is obviously intended to apply to sailors and not to instances such as this. However, that leaves the option of burial, and unless somebody can actually suggest a country that would have agreed to take the body and a place in it where he could have been buried within 24 hours, all the condemnation from yourself, scholars, governments or whoever is just hot air.

That is a scenario I did not think of. A depleted core, powdered and scattered with conventional explosive. that would be nasty in terms of radiation poisoning.

Don't tell me you buy into to the 'false flag' garbage as well?! :muddlehea

 

[جوري]

It wasn't actually a rhetorical question, although granted I wasn't expecting a reply. Perhaps you have actually have a suggestion?

It was indeed a rhetorical question--We will never know will we? I think people in Yemen, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia his mother country would have given him proper burial. Egypt has taken exiles like the former shah they wouldn't take america's quintessential bad guy? give me a break mac!

As I understand it, cremation is forbidden in Islam. As I understand it, so is burial at sea unless it is impossible to return the body to land within 24 hours; which is obviously intended to apply to sailors and not to instances such as this. However, that leaves the option of burial, and unless somebody can actually suggest a country that would have agreed to take the body and a place in it where he could have been buried within 24 hours, all the condemnation from yourself, scholars, governments or whoever is just hot air.

What the hell are you talking about? I said the two best ways to dispose of evidence are cremation or out to sea. obviously they've opted for the latter Since when are they respectful of Islamic rituals? not a far plane trip from any of the neighboring place to have the body buried within 24 hours and provide ample evidence that he'd who he's alleged to be!

all the best bucko

 

[جوري]

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The killing of Osama bin Ladin, may Allah have mercy on him, if proven to be true, may either be a coincidence or part of a strategic manoeuvre by the US and its allies to justify the adoption of new tactics in their ‘war on terror’ that has clearly proven to be counterproductive. It may be alleged that he was killed a long time ago but the killing was only now announced as a justification for the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan. All of these are possibilities that no one can emphatically confirm, and indeed, there need not be an exertion of effort to confirm or disprove the claims as wisdom dictates that we deal with facts and realities whilst planning for the worst of scenarios.
Whatever the case may be, Osama left this worldly life to meet his Lord who is the ultimate judge. Almighty Allah knows everything about him, his actions, and the conspiracies that surround his life. He knows what Osama did, what he didn’t do, and what we were made to believe that he did. In any case, he died as a Muslim... Read More »