Osama Bin Laden has been killed

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

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People did care.



Unfortunately, the man was beheaded because Muslim prisoners were mistreated and were not going to be freed.




It is based on what I have read and heard on the media.



Irrelevant people know him or not. You get people supporting Prime Ministers, Presidents, Monarchs, even though they never met them or are aware of their policies. There are people that support him and might respond violently because he was killed.



There is a possibility that because Osama was killed, some Muslims might respond violently. They might carry out attacks against airports, western embassies, attack innocent civilians, etc. Whether this will happen or not, I have no idea.

It is as simple as that. =D

I dont support any leader like ppl do, going on with blind support. And that is different from Osama by miles. No one actually hears what he says. Most of the world do not speak Arabic. And whatever Arabic is spoken, you have "random" translators. Usually non muslims you see doing it. Most of the videos look ridiculously fake, horrible audio on top of that :/ You hear from "Osama" once in a blue moon and it just so happens its the West that receives most of it? So it is not irrelevant. These "leaders" we can see. Him, we do not.

It's not a simple as that. If it was simple, you and I would not even be discussing this! =D

 

[جوري]

Or on the land the Egyptian Copts are working and living on themselves? They have done more to improve that land than anyone else has, why should anyone else claim the land instead of them?

I suggest you not comment on things you have very little knowledge also what kind of Constitution can one run on their property?
you're too funny!

Hint: If Muslims want to start a Shariah state on their own property, even in the evil United States they should be able to because the Muslim who owns the land has more a claim to it than some guy in Washington. The same applies to the Copts in Egypt as well though.

I have no idea what this drivel means..

all the best

 

[GuestFellow]

Hint: If Muslims want to start a Shariah state on their own property, even in the evil United States they should be able to because the Muslim who owns the land has more a claim to it than some guy in Washington. The same applies to the Copts in Egypt as well though.

I'm lost. What are you talking about? :

I dont support any leader like ppl do, going on with blind support. And that is different from Osama by miles. No one actually hears what he says. Most of the world do not speak Arabic. And whatever Arabic is spoken, you have "random" translators. Usually non muslims you see doing it. Most of the videos look ridiculously fake, horrible audio on top of that :/ You hear from "Osama" once in a blue moon and it just so happens its the West that receives most of it? So it is not irrelevant. These "leaders" we can see. Hm, we do not.

It's not a simple as that. If it was simple, you and I would not even be discussing this! =D

Oh I'm not talking about Muslims in genral. There must be some Muslims that actually know and met Osama. I'm referring to them that they might carry out an attack. I don't believe that there is a group called Al Qaeda plotting to take over the world, the usual nonsense we on hear on the mainstream media but it is very likely Osama might have known some Muslim militants who are loyal to him.

Then again, I'm not even sure if he is dead. :/

I have no idea what this drivel means..

LOL Same here. I like the term drivel for some reason...

 

[جوري]

LOL Same here. I like the term drivel for some reason...

me too I even wrote a long prose once entitled just that :haha:

 

[Verdetequiero]

I suggest you not comment on things you have very little knowledge also what kind of Constitution can one run on their property?

The same as any country can run over a collection of properties. What claim does some bureaucrat have over a man or woman's property far away from his domain in a guilded building miles away?

I have no idea what this drivel means..

I have no doubt that you wouldn't. Pearls before swine and all that...

In short, I don't care how the revolutions in Tunisia or Egypt turns out as long as every person is allowed to choose how to rule themselves as they see fit.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

LOL I like it when she uses drivel too Favorite word =D

 

[جوري]

The same as any country can run over a collection of properties. What claim does some bureaucrat have over a man or woman's property far away from his domain in a guilded building miles away?

Except we're not speaking of property so I have no idea why you have introduced that into the topic? Does it bring it down to a low common denominator that is easier for you to understand?

I have no doubt that you wouldn't. Pearls before swine and all that...

Glad you recognize yourself for what you're indeed.. perhaps if you quite gorging on all that spam it wouldn't reflect so much in what you spew?

In short, I don't care how the revolutions in Tunisia or Egypt turns out as long as every person is allowed to choose how to rule themselves as they see fit.

I am sure the revolutionaries will keep your interests in mind!

all the best

 

[Verdetequiero]

Except we're not speaking of property so I have no idea why you have introduced that into the topic? Does it bring it down to a low common denominator that is easier for you to understand?

It is said that women are deficient of understanding, but I don't believe them. Times like this try my faith though. The idea of property is a differentiator between Egypt, Tunisia and me. Why are those revolutionaries entitled to govern themselves as they see fit and not what I tell them or what the United States tells them? Because it is their land and they chose to live how they wish on their own land. They can chose to head others advice or not, but it is their choice because it is their land and not the United States' land or any others. I am sure you understand that, so you're apology is not necessary.

Glad you recognize yourself for what you're indeed.. perhaps if you quite gorging on all that spam it wouldn't reflect so much in what you spew?

Why not a swine? If left to its own devices a swine is one the most cleanlinessof all animals. It chooses to defecate away from where it eats, makes nests, cares for it's young, and cleans its self, which is better than many of those poor ape like animals that claim to be enlightened.

I am sure the revolutionaries will keep your interests in mind!

I do not pretend that my opinion matters to the the brave revolutionaries any more than the poor ramblings of any other person here. Hats off to those who braved the rocks and bullets, torture, and fear. May others claim their credit behind their keyboards.

all the best

My dear, don't lie it is unbecoming of a lady. Well it isn't of the feminine gender, but of you particularly it is.

 

[CosmicPathos]

Afghanistan is the death of empires by their own account not ours.. its people are unconquerable .. so let them try to subjugate them.. it isn't about power or might mate..

http://notesfromthebartender.wordpr...ires-case-study-1-a-very-british-catastrophe/

This. Just for fun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOuspHz4MJw

 

[جوري]

This. Just for fun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOuspHz4MJw

love it..

jzk

 

[LavaDog]

^ The murder was response to Abu Ghraib in particular...

Well thats the offical story. The article says he was a private contractor but they now admit he was CIA plus he was jailed because he had a Israeli passport. Just saying...

 

[Ramadhan]

I do not know what to believe about OBL, whether he actually was killed in Pakistan or that he was already dead. I don't know how much OBL had to do with 9/11 either. I've been vehemently against both wars since their conception and always will be. What I don't get is people believing that OBL masterminded 9/11, but praising him anyways...and when confronted, they say "well the U.S. killed more people in Iraq and Afghanistan". Seriously? That some how erases the fact that almost 3,000 civilians from all walks of life perished just because they went into work that day? I find it VERY surprising the amount of support on this thread.

Has there been anyone here who said that Obama masterminded 9/11 AND praised him for that?

Please show us that VERY surprising amount of support!

 

[YusufNoor]

i don't understand what the heck is going on!

on Sunday, the TV said, "bin Laden is dead and we have his body to prove it!"
on Monday, the TV said, bin Laden is dead, but we DON'T have his body to prove it!"

then why did you say that you DID have it?

i thought bin Laden has been dead for years.

NEXT, the govt says, "we pretty much thought we knew where bin Laden has been for the last five years!"


WHAT? you telling me the Bush "KNEW" or pretty close to knew where bin Laden was living. FIVE YEARS AGO! REALLY?

THEN the govt says Pres Obama HAS KNOW where binLaden has been living since August last year!? REALLY? and this "special news" wouldn't have helped the Dems in last falls election? they PASSED that chance up?! REALLY?

and THEN, they say that bin Laden has been living in the middle of a army barracks town with like 3 regiments stationed there, REALLY? hear no ISI see no ISI talk no ISI?

so to recap. the US invaded another country's air space WITHOUT their knowledge. staged a raid, and killed an unarmed man. killed a bunch of other people too. fled back to Afghanistan. headed out to sea. and THEN wanted to treat a body "Islamically!"

people in the US sing "ding dong the witch is dead" for 2 days.

i don't get it, why would you say that the "bogey man" is dead?

UNLESS you have another?

and now Bush is getting the credit! BECAUSE he let folks be tortured!

i see some Muslims saying bin Laden is a terrorist i don't think you can say that about a Muslim without some proof. Allah knows best. and some here [where i live, especially CAIR and the ahmadiyyahs, who i don't mean to refer to as Muslims] saying that they are GLAD he is dead!

"revolution" is sweeping the Middle East and parts of Africa and now this...

i feel totally clueless!:embarrass

 

[BoredAgnostic]

So which is it? He masterminded 911? or he didn't?
lots of people around the world indeed want to do just that get up in the morning and go to work and provide for their families but it is made difficult by folks like this?

the least disturbing image indeed of its kind!

So are you surprised? one country's quintessential bad guy is another country's freedom fighter!

all the best

In my personal opinion, I do not know. I believe that our government had much more to do with 9/11 than what they disclosed. Whether or not Bin Laden played an actual part in it is questionable to me. I was talking about those that actually believe he masterminded it, but still support him I find that disturbing. Since when do two incredible wrongs make a right? I understand that the amount of civilians that have died in both Iraq and Afghanistan completely surpass the civilians that died in 9/11 and it's sickening no question about it. ...I just don't see how you can (assuming you believe it) praise someone for orchestrating something like that.........

And yeah, that's a pretty revolting picture.

 

[Hamza Asadullah]

I request all members in this thread to please stick to the topic and to talk to each other in a kind manner and not resort to mockery or name calling. Thank you

 

[BoredAgnostic]

Has there been anyone here who said that Obama masterminded 9/11 AND praised him for that?

Please show us that VERY surprising amount of support!

I didn't scroll through every page in the thread but Ahmed M, insecure soul and islamiclife, even if they didn't agree with what took place on 9/11, they still seem to rally behind OBL. I didn't say they praised him for supposedly committing that crime, but they still support him and his cause, and I don't see how you can, since it would completely go against what Islam stands for? As someone, I think Tyrion mentioned earlier, if they support Bin Laden but don't believe that he orchestrated it then that's fine..I have my doubts as well....but actually believing he did but was misguided...is another story...

 

[جوري]

In my personal opinion, I do not know. I believe that our government had much more to do with 9/11 than what they disclosed. Whether or not Bin Laden played an actual part in it is questionable to me. I was talking about those that actually believe he masterminded it, but still support him I find that disturbing. Since when do two incredible wrongs make a right? I understand that the amount of civilians that have died in both Iraq and Afghanistan completely surpass the civilians that died in 9/11 and it's sickening no question about it. ...I just don't see how you can (assuming you believe it) praise someone for orchestrating something like that.........

And yeah, that's a pretty revolting picture.

I think the majority of folks believe that 911 was an inside job.. no one takes pleasure in seeing innocent people dead, but too much hatred and deliberate malice hardens the soul even toward ordinary people.. there is really only so much folks can withstand while standing idly or even being at the front line of the abuse!

all the best

 

[Verdetequiero]

I think the majority of folks believe that 911 was an inside job.. no one takes pleasure in seeing innocent people dead, but too much hatred and deliberate malice hardens the soul even toward ordinary people.. there is really only so much folks can withstand while standing idly or even being at the front line of the abuse!

all the best

I was not aware that the truth was so arbitrarily subject to a majority vote. Should a cancer victim and a doctor take a vote on how long the victim would live? Would the cancer listen? I do agree that there is only so much that a person could take. I refer you to the infinite wisdom of the movie, "Falling Down".

 

[BoredAgnostic]

I think the majority of folks believe that 911 was an inside job.. no one takes pleasure in seeing innocent people dead, but too much hatred and deliberate malice hardens the soul even toward ordinary people.. there is really only so much folks can withstand while standing idly or even being at the front line of the abuse!

all the best

Yeah, I guess to a certain extent I can understand the reasoning behind that mentality. I guess it is easy for me to say "Well that's just wrong" and yada yada yada, while living in relative comfort and far removed from the horrors of war and devastation. For those that do actually believe, I still think the support is wrong..but I also do find it disgustingly hypocritical for people (in general) to mourn for those that were lost in 9/11 and say how tragic and awful it was (not that it wasn't) but on the other hand just almost dismiss the 100s of thousand of Afghanis and Iraqis that have been tortured, killed, and their homes completely destroyed and label them simply as "collateral damage" and "it's unfortunate but necessary". The people out in the streets celebrating Bin Laden's death like it was the 4th of July or something; I thought that was pretty distasteful.

 

[جوري]

Yeah, I guess to a certain extent I can understand the reasoning behind that mentality. I guess it is easy for me to say "Well that's just wrong" and yada yada yada, while living in relative comfort and far removed from the horrors of war and devastation. For those that do actually believe, I still think the support is wrong..but I also do find it disgustingly hypocritical for people (in general) to mourn for those that were lost in 9/11 and say how tragic and awful it was (not that it wasn't) but on the other hand just almost dismiss the 100s of thousand of Afghanis and Iraqis that have been tortured, killed, and their homes completely destroyed and label them simply as "collateral damage" and "it's unfortunate but necessary". The people out in the streets celebrating Bin Laden's death like it was the 4th of July or something; I thought that was pretty distasteful.

Actually I found it odd, they had their slogans at a moment's notice and had an organized rally.. The whole thing is certainly odd.. I'd like to look at it objectively 5 years from now.. at this moment I can't sort through truth from fiction but have completely turned off my TV.. the revolutions and killings in the middle east have been completely marginalized in the wake of these events and it is clear that they're still working on the official story..

best,