Toronto Hindu bigots oppose Muslim prayers and halal meat at school

[Galaxy]

I hope my school district also allows students to pray Dhuhr and serve halaal meat. Christmas is celebrated in schools, I remember even writing a letter to Santa! Why isn't this being complained about?

 

[Santoku]

This is what was mentioned

"He said Hindu groups will also raise objections to "the serving of 'halal' meat within TDSB schools. Our organization is determined to ensure all Hindu students are provided non-'halal' meat alternatives."

There is no rule in Hinduism stating that Halal/Kosher meat should not be eaten. This is something the hatemongers have come up with to create communal disharmony between groups. This is just an example of hatred incidents that led to the partition of India into Pakistan and Bangladesh

Actually from what I have read and been told the hindu and muslim approved methods of slaughter are mutually exclusive and what is halal for one is haram for the other. So in that case the hindus have as much right to demand Jhatka slaughtered meat as muslims have to demand halal slaughtered meat.

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/Peace

... what is halal for one is haram for the other..

according to our holy book , Muslims are not permitted to eat meat slaughtered by Hindus. But is there any such law mentioned in Hindu's holy books ?


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So in that case the hindus have as much right to demand Jhatka slaughtered meat as muslims have to demand halal slaughtered meat.

how come Jhatka is halal for Hindus and not the slaughtered meat ? Pl. mention verse from Hindu's holy books.

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam

Its only beef which is prohibited because the cow is sacred animal

I heard a lecture of Dr. Zakir Naik . He said Hindu's holy book does not have any such law. Instead a holy book says , if any Hindu sacrifices cow for the dead relatives , their souls will be in peace for ....years ...I forgot the exact years.

 

[GuestFellow]

Aren't Hindus supposed to be vegetarian?

Salaam,

Hinduism and animals

^ Hope this helps.

 

[Predator]

Salaam,

Hinduism and animals

^ Hope this helps.

Hindus eating beef is much more common than Muslims eating Pork.

 

[Predator]

Salaam



I heard a lecture of Dr. Zakir Naik . He said Hindu's holy book does not have any such law. Instead a holy book says , if any Hindu sacrifices cow for the dead relatives , their souls will be in peace for ....years ...I forgot the exact years.

Yeah , what i meant was that Beef and cow slaughter is prohibited in many of India the so called "secular"country . You can still find 100s of butcher shops and top class restaurants selling it and its pathetic to seem them vandalising the restaurants like they did for Mcdonalds earlier

http://www.wikidfranchise.org/20010504-hindu-group

 

[Santoku]

Salaam



I heard a lecture of Dr. Zakir Naik . He said Hindu's holy book does not have any such law. Instead a holy book says , if any Hindu sacrifices cow for the dead relatives , their souls will be in peace for ....years ...I forgot the exact years.

I would not regard Dr Naik as a great expert on anything except Islam. Certainly his notions of animal behaviour and husbandry are totally incorrect.

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salam /Peace


Hindu scriptures give permission to have non-veg


a. There are many Hindus who are strictly vegetarian. They think that it is against their religion to consume non-vegetarian food. In fact the Hindu scriptures permit a person to have meat. The scriptures mention Hindu sages and saints consuming non-vegetarian foods.


b. It is mentioned in Ayodhya Khandam, verses 20,26 and 94 that when Rama was sent for Banavas he told his mother that he would have to sacrifice his tasty meat dishes. If Rama had to sacrifice his tasty meat dishes it meant that Rama had likeness for meat.


If Rama can have meat, why can’t the Hindus have meat?

http://www.islamicvoice.com/december.98/zakir.htm



Beef Eating in Hindu scriptures



.......Mahabharata Anushashan Parva chapter 88 narrates the discussion between Dharmaraj Yudhishthira and Pitamah Bhishma about what food one should offer to Pitris (ancestors) during the Shraddha (ceremony of dead) to keep them satisfied. Paragraph reads as follows:

"Yudhishthira said, "O thou of great puissance, tell me what that object is which, if dedicated to the Pitiris (dead ancestors), become inexhaustible! What Havi, again, (if offered) lasts for all time?

What, indeed, is that which (if presented) becomes eternal?"

"Bhishma said, "Listen to me, O Yudhishthira, what those Havis are which persons conversant with the rituals of the Shraddha (the ceremony of dead) regard as suitable in view of Shraddha and what the fruits are that attach to each.

With sesame seeds and rice and barely and Masha and water and roots and fruits, if given at Shraddhas, the pitris, O king, remain gratified for the period of a month.


With fishes offered at Shraddhas, the pitris remain gratified for a period of two months.


With the mutton they remain gratified for three months and with the hare for four months, with the flesh of the goat for five months, with the bacon (meat of pig) for six months, and with the flesh of birds for seven. With venison obtained from those deer that are called Prishata, they remaingratified for eight months, and with that obtained from the Ruru for nine months, and with the meat of Gavaya for ten months, With the meat of the bufffalo their gratification lasts for eleven months. With beef presented at the Shraddha, their gratification, it is said , lasts for a full year. Payasa mixed with ghee is as much acceptable to the pitris as beef. With the meat of Vadhrinasa (a large bull) the gratification of pitris lasts for twelve years.



The flesh of rhinoceros, offered to the pitris on anniversaries of the lunar days on which they died, becomes inexhaustible.


The potherb called Kalaska, the petals of kanchana flower, and meat of (red) goat also, thus offered, prove inexhaustible.

So but natural if you want to keep your ancestors satisfied forever, you should serve them the meat of red goat.

http://islam-peace-brotherhood.blogspot.com/2007/09/beef-eating-in-hindu-scriptures.html

 

[Predator]

I would not regard Dr Naik as a great expert on anything except Islam. Certainly his notions of animal behaviour and husbandry are totally incorrect.

If you find another verse in your scripture that contradicts another verse , then the whole book should be thrown out . Because any book that comes from God should have no contradiction


Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy. [Qur'an 4:82]

 

[Trumble]

You might want to switch your research from (largely irrelevant) scripture to history to find out why Hindus (and Sihks) have such a particular problem with Halal meat. Hint.. try 'Mughul Empire' as a starting point.

 

[Predator]

You might want to switch your research from (largely irrelevant) scripture to history to find out why Hindus (and Sihks) have such a particular problem with Halal meat. Hint.. try 'Mughul Empire' as a starting point.

We know sikhism has a prohibition on consumptions of halal meat. Sikhism is a different religion from hinduism . I am yet to see any such divine commandment in the hindu scriptues and btw Thanks for admitting hindus scriptures are irrrelevant (not the word of god).

 

[Trumble]

We know sikhism has a prohibition on consumptions of halal meat. Sikhism is a different religion from hinduism . I am yet to see any such divine commandment in the hindu scriptues and btw Thanks for admitting hindus scriptures are irrrelevant (not the word of god).

Alas, I am unable to repeat my last in words of one syllable or less, so I can only suggest you try reading it again in the probably vain hope you might obtain some degree of comprehension. Hint (again); H-I-S-T-O-R-Y not S-C-R-I-P-T-U-R-E.

BTW I have my reasons for suggesting you research that reason yourself rather than setting it out on a plate for you. I would rather you formed your own opinions.

 

[Karl]

Muslims should go to Muslim schools only. Muslims should not assosiate with kafirs let alone being educated by them. I take issue with being taxed to fund state education regardless of whether it is religious or secular education. All education should be privatised in a pluralistic nation. That would stop all the petty back bitting about funding. User pays is the only just way.

 

[Trumble]

Muslims should go to Muslim schools only. Muslims should not assosiate with kafirs let alone being educated by them. I take issue with being taxed to fund state education regardless of whether it is religious or secular education. All education should be privatised in a pluralistic nation. That would stop all the petty back bitting about funding. User pays is the only just way.

A nation in which one ethno-cultural-religious group doesn't even 'associate' with the others isn't 'pluralistic', it's totally disfunctional.

 

[Predator]

Alas, I am unable to repeat my last in words of one syllable or less, so I can only suggest you try reading it again in the probably vain hope you might obtain some degree of comprehension. Hint (again); H-I-S-T-O-R-Y not S-C-R-I-P-T-U-R-E.

BTW I have my reasons for suggesting you research that reason yourself rather than setting it out on a plate for you. I would rather you formed your own opinions.

You need to do a research of your own . Its Muslims and Jews a have a history of hatred enemity but their food is lawful for each other . Can you the same about the Hindus ? the answer is no.

 

[Trumble]

Whatever. I've been doing my best to nudge you in the direction of finding out both what the answer actually is, and why it is. If you can't be bothered to make the minimal effort necessary, that's your problem.

 

[Karl]

A nation in which one ethno-cultural-religious group doesn't even 'associate' with the others isn't 'pluralistic', it's totally disfunctional.

Well the USA functions like that eg Christian fundamentalists don't associate with the sodomites, Jews, communists etc. A country only becomes disfunctional through crime, corruption and civil war.

 

[Predator]

In an earlier post , I spoke about how the pagans demand money for trip to ganges to ""cleanse'" themselves of the sin of eating meat which someone deleted earlier thinking it was some story i concocted to ridicule the religion . Well here's the proof

http://timesofindia.hotklix.com/link/News/World/Hindus-served-meat-sue-american-eatery

 

[Pygoscelis]

Muslims should not assosiate with kafirs let alone being educated by them.

Then why do they keep coming to kafir nations? And if they won't integrate and participate in our society, why should we have them in our countries? It seems pointless from both points of view.