Why do we insist on putting a crescent on everything?

[True-blue]

Peace Sister


In the Quran Allah says that :

41:37 Among His Signs are the Night and the Day, and the Sun and the Moon. Adore not the sun and the moon, but adore Allah, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve.


In the ahaadeths above we have :

- The prophete Mohamed
- The eclipse

He prayed not because it was time of the prayer and he did not pray Allah but because he saw an eclipse ( Sun and moon)


Peace

What a stupid assertion! Every prayer in Islam is directed to Allah ALONE. No where does the Hadith say that the Prophet (PBUH) was praying to somebody else. The Prophet was praying a special prayer to ALLAH as he saw a phenomena of Almighty Allah that is the eclipse. To say that prayer, He went to Mosque and offered two rakat salah. The very Salat is started by pronouncing loudly 'ALLAHU AKBAR' that is God is the greatest. Moreover,(Sahih Bukhari: Book #72, Hadith #676) confirms that He was praying to ALLAH alone. Look at the underlined text below.

Narrated Abu Bakra: The solar eclipse occurred while we were sitting with the Prophet He got up dragging his garment (on the ground) hurriedly till he reached the mosque The people turned (to the mosque) and he offered a two-Rak'at prayer whereupon the eclipse was over and he traced us and said, "The sun and the moon are two signs among the signs of Allah, so if you see a thing like this (eclipse) then offer the prayer and invoke Allah till He remove that state," (Sahih Bukhari: Book #72, Hadith #676)

And there is NO rule that you can ONLY pray regular five times prayers. U can pray even more. Those five times a day prayer are FARD(Obligatory). But there are different types of Salah as well.

So You were using completely anti-Islamic assumptions to blame Islam.

 

[JOHNJOHN]

Peace


Can you tell me why in the verse 37 S 41 Allah Says do not Bow down in front of the Sun and the Moon

But the prophete Mohamed did the opposite ?

The verse I brought above is not well translated lets see the one bellow :


S41:V37 Among His Signs are the Night and the Day, and the Sun and the Moon. Do not prostrate to the sun and the moon, but prostrate to Allah, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve.


What I do not understand is it hard for you to understand what I am trying to explain you.


Read many times the verse and try to understand the order of Allah to muslims and see what the prophete Mohamed did.

What is the order of Allah ?
The prophete Mohamed prayed when he saw what ?


Peace.

 

[JOHNJOHN]

Peace


I am sorry imsad if you feel that I am not here to blame Islam, I am here to share with you research about Islam I have done and ask you questions to complete my knowledge.

I rescpect all the religions around the world.

I respect everybody here you are my sisters and brothers in humanity and I love you all only god knows what I have deeply in my heart.

You call your god Allah and me I beleive and I know there is a god but for me he has no name we can not give him a name as we can not describe him or we can not place him.


Peace.:smile:

 

[جوري]

Peace


I am sorry imsad if you feel that I am not here to blame Islam, I am here to share with you research about Islam I have done and ask you questions to complete my knowledge.

I rescpect all the religions around the world.

I respect everybody here you are my sisters and brothers in humanity and I love you all only god knows what I have deeply in my heart.

You call your god Allah and me I beleive and I know there is a god but for me he has no name we can not give him a name as we can not describe him or we can not place him.


Peace.:smile:

you don't have to apologize to us for your poor understanding and convoluted, perverse thoughts! it is however, something you have to work on, on your private time, since we have amply explained to you different types of prayers, whether you choose to accept that or reject it, it is your own business.

I think we're all done here!

best,

 

[True-blue]

First of all sorry for posting four times. It was unintentional. I could not understand and hence post it four times unintentionally.

 

[True-blue]

Peace


Can you tell me why in the verse 37 S 41 Allah Says do not Bow down in front of the Sun and the Moon

But the prophete Mohamed did the opposite ?

The verse I brought above is not well translated lets see the one bellow :


S41:V37 Among His Signs are the Night and the Day, and the Sun and the Moon. Do not prostrate to the sun and the moon, but prostrate to Allah, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve.


What I do not understand is it hard for you to understand what I am trying to explain you.


Read many times the verse and try to understand the order of Allah to muslims and see what the prophete Mohamed did.

What is the order of Allah ?
The prophete Mohamed prayed when he saw what ?


Peace.

I have read that verse many times. I have also read the hadith presented below many times.The prophet did not do anything opposite to the verse 41.37. He clearly followed that verse. I wonder where do you get those ideas from. .Sahih Bukhari: Book #72, Hadith #676 confirms that He was praying to ALLAH alone. Look at the underlined text below.

Narrated Abu Bakra: The solar eclipse occurred while we were sitting with the Prophet He got up dragging his garment (on the ground) hurriedly till he reached the mosque The people turned (to the mosque) and he offered a two-Rak'at prayer whereupon the eclipse was over and he traced us and said, "The sun and the moon are two signs among the signs of Allah, so if you see a thing like this (eclipse) then offer the prayer and invoke Allah till He remove that state," (Sahih Bukhari: Book #72, Hadith #676)


Please take a special look at those highlighted bold, and underlined text. Nowhere does it say that the Prophet(PBUH) was bowing to sun and moon.He went to Mosque to say the Prayer to ALLAH. Muslims go to Mosque to say prayer to Allah Alone . The very prayer is started by pronouncing loudly 'ALLAHU AKBAR' that is God is the greatest. And that's why the Prophet (PBUH) said sun and moon are just two signs among many other signs of Allah, that is they are not gods, so Muslims must INVOKE ALLAH till Allah removes that state. So, the Prophet(PBUH) was praying a special prayer to ALLAH as he saw a phenomena of Almighty Allah that is the eclipse. There is not a shred of evidence that He was praying to someone else. On the contrary, the Prophet(PBUH) was praying to Allah Alone and he followed the order given at the verse 41.37. So, Your accusation against the Prophet (PBUH)is nothing less than a myth.

 

[True-blue]

Peace

I am sorry imsad if you feel that I am not here to blame Islam, I am here to share with you research about Islam I have done and ask you questions to complete my knowledge.

Your accusation was not worthy of a result from research, it was a baseless assumption. And of course, complete your research by asking Muslims here ,and please avoid bigotry and listen to them attentively.

I respect everybody here you are my sisters and brothers in humanity and I love you all only god knows what I have deeply in my heart.

Very Good

You call your god Allah and me I beleive and I know there is a god but for me he has no name we can not give him a name as we can not describe him or we can not place him.[/QUOTE]

Your comment is quite contradictory. You are calling Him God, so that's a name. Anyway, Allah means Al-Ilah, Al means 'the', Ilah means God. So, Allah means 'The God' in English. But the word Allah does not have any gender like goddess in English. There is no plural of it like gods, goddesses . That's why 'Allah' is the best name of one and only God.

Peace.:smile:

Peace.:smile:

 

[JOHNJOHN]

Peace


Can you tell me why we have such surahs in the Quran :


An-Nur (The Light)
An-Najm (The Star)
Al-Qamar (The Moon)
Al-Buruj (The Stars) I think that mean the constellations ?
Ash-Shams (The Sun)


I went recently to a muslim cemetery and I saw many stars and moons above the graves is it normal ?


About the ahaadeth where the prophete Mohamed prayed when he saw an eclipse I try to give you an example.

If you are driving and you are in the front of a trafic light what will allowed you to drive again ? when you will see with your eyes the green light ?

The prophete Mohamed at the sight of the eclipse he prayed automaticllay.



Peace.

 

[جوري]

Peace



I went recently to a muslim cemetery and I saw many stars and moons above the graves is it normal ?




Peace.

I'd love to see that care to share the pix?

best,

 

[Innocent Soul]

In think Bro True-blue explained it very nicely. Do you know why Allah has sent this Quran? It's for the same reason that Allah has releaved these surahs. There are many verses in the Quran with their names as Allah's creations.

Baqarah -The Cow
Ar-Ra'ad -The Thunder
Nahl -The Bee
Al-Naml -The Ant
Al-Ankabut -The Spider
Al-Hadid -Iron
Al-Dahr -The Man

Brother I think you should read the Enlosh translation of the verQuran rather than judging Quran by the names of Surahs.

I went recently to a muslim cemetery and I saw many stars and moons above the graves is it normal ?

Please don't mind in which country you saw all that? I have never seen such things even though I live in a muslim country.

Peace.

 

[JOHNJOHN]

In think Bro True-blue explained it very nicely. Do you know why Allah has sent this Quran? It's for the same reason that Allah has releaved these surahs. There are many verses in the Quran with their names as Allah's creations.

Baqarah -The Cow
Ar-Ra'ad -The Thunder
Nahl -The Bee
Al-Naml -The Ant
Al-Ankabut -The Spider
Al-Hadid -Iron
Al-Dahr -The Man

Brother I think you should read the Enlosh translation of the verQuran rather than judging Quran by the names of Surahs.



Please don't mind in which country you saw all that? I have never seen such things even though I live in a muslim country.

Peace.

Peace Sister in humanity Innocent Soul


Do you have Internet ?
Type in google (Photos research) muslims cemetry+moon


If someone find some Photos could you please display them here.



Peace:statisfie

 

[Abz2000]

Are you saying it is comparable to idol worship?

i am this text was on wikipedia under "flag of turkey" up until Jan 2011 - it has since disappeared - you can find it in the history :
The crescent moon and star were mistakenly attributed to the Islamic faith. However, Islam has historically had no symbol or symbols - in fact there is a disdain within Islam for the use of iconic symbols - and many Muslims find its use blasphemous, even to this day. After all, the moon and star used in conjunction were originally pagan icons. Though the Crescent Moon and a Star appear on the flags of several Muslim countries, it should be seen more as a historical symbol of the land, the territory or the empire, rather than of a state religion. It was adopted by reformists who changed the Islamic Constitution.
Star and Crescent with the points of the crescent facing left and the star on the left represents the moon goddess Dianna and the "son of the morning", the name of Lucifer in Isaiah 14:12. Witchcraft uses it this way and Satanism turns it in the opposite direction i.e. the points towards the right, and the pentagram on its right.






ps. satanism also uses as snake making a circle around a pentagram, unless one looks closely - they would easily say it's a crescent and star - just google "crescent moon and star satanism" - hit images