Radical Muslim sect kill dozens in Nigeria Christmas bombs

[Roasted Cashew]

"ABUJA (Reuters) - Islamist militants set off bombs across Nigeria on Christmas Day - three targeting churches including one that killed at least 27 people - raising fears that they are trying to ignite sectarian civil war.
The Boko Haram Islamist sect, which aims to impose sharia law across the country, claimed responsibility for the three church bombs, the second Christmas in a row the group has caused mass carnage with deadly bombings of churches. Security forces also blamed the sect for two other blasts in the north.
St Theresa's Catholic Church in Madala, a satellite town about 40 km (25 miles) from the center of the capital Abuja, was packed when the bomb exploded just outside...."


This is just plain horrible.:raging:

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/islamists-kill-dozens-nigeria-christmas-bombs-001706876.htmlhttp://

 

[Ramadhan]

It is horrible.

Even in war muslims are commanded to spare churches and places of worships.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

It is horrible.

Even in war muslims are commanded to spare churches and places of worships.

Exactly...Why are these extremists hell bent on destroying Islam. They are but a disgrace and their ultimate abode is hell, Insha'Allah.

 

[User29123]

How do we know its true?

 

[Marina-Aisha]

i heard this on sky news, cant believe it...i dont understand how people could do such evil acts!

 

[ardianto]

Boko Haram ?

I just know they still exist. I remember them as group that wanted to eliminate every 'education' that against Qur'an and sunah. They force people to believe that the earth is flat because, according to them, Qur'an says the earth is flat.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

How do we know its true?

Unless you have Boko Haram's leader on speed dial, respectable news agencies are our only source..

 

[User29123]

i heard this on sky news, cant believe it...i dont understand how people could do such evil acts!

Sky News is full of .......... The Media will always do something to blame Islam, it happens every Xmas and New Years day First of January 2011 there was an explosion in Egypt done by we know who, Al-Qadea..

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Sky News is full of .......... The Media will always do something to blame Islam, it happens every Xmas and New Years day First of January there was an explosion in Egypt done by we know who, Al-Qadea..

It is true that media always exaggerates and sensationalizes news for ratings or to serve their biased agenda but to say that they come up with stories from scratch to defame Islam is not true either. These Muslim extremists/terrorists do enough atrocities to meet the demand of these media outlets..

 

[Abz2000]

They force people to believe that the earth is flat because, according to them, Qur'an says the earth is flat.

that's not true, i read the statement when it was made, they asked the guy if he would believe the earth was flat if the Quran said it, he replied that if the Quran said it he would,
this is a blatant twisting of the facts, if the Quran told me something then i'd believe it, if it was proven untrue, then i have the option of saying the Quran is false,
my kafir brother asked me the same thing, and without going into long winded arguments, i said the same thing to shut him up.
all it means is that i put more stock in what the Quran says,

when abu jahl asked Abu Bakr (ra) if he believed that that the Prophet (pbuh) had gone to Jerusalem and back in one night, he replied: if he said it, then it's true.

secondly, this attack doesn't make any sense, firstly it's against the rules of engagement in Islam, places of worship of the people of the book are not to be touched.
A real Islamic group could not do it in the name of Islam.

and since it's forbidden, one would have to look at the political gain and again it doesn't make any sense, because it is a way of driving the people of the book away from Islam at a sensitive time.

the question any murder investigator would ask is "cui bono"

if one looks into the counter insurgency methods employed by the colonialists from ages back, one would see that this is a normal method of demonizing movements that are gaining popular support among the populace, and it seems to happen on a regular basis,
the fbi admitted to having urged a clueless patsy to "blow up a christmas tree" last year and they even made the fake bomb for him.

this video i put together for you last year should refresh the mind:

and here's more:
http://www.infowars.com/the-false-flags-that-stole-christmas/

peace

 

[GuestFellow]

How do we know its true?

We can say that about pretty much everything we hear on the news.

 

[Abz2000]

It is true that media always exaggerates and sensationalizes news for ratings or to serve their biased agenda but to say that they come up with stories from scratch to defame Islam is not true either.

yup, they do come out with fake stories from scratch, all this happened in a film studio and was controlled by cnn:

here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0VxWZszyg

 

[جوري]

We can say that about pretty much everything we hear on the news.

Which is precisely why newspapers are becoming extinct and corporate news agencies are losing audience .. Youtube and other independent sources have largely replaced .. When Corporate media starts giving opinions and dispenses with passive transmission of the news can many of us take some of these events with other than a grain of salt.. If it did happen then Islam doesn't condone it and their ideology is to be corrected.. but the fact is anyone can do anything and claim they're Muslims.. it is a great business..

________

It is hard to imagine amidst the omnipresence of discourse currently on Islam that a mere three decades ago, Islam had been a marginal concern situated on the periphery of western consciousness.
If ever encountered in press reports during the cold war, it would most likely have been in the figure of the "mujahideen" confronting the Empire of Evil in Afghanistan. Islam appeared as a benign ally of the forces of freedom camped in New York and London.
What finally brought it to the heart of Euro-American preoccupations were the events that occured on 9/11.
Islam became a local and globalised issue at once, transmitted in countless daily images across the globe.
Since then, rarely does a day go by without hearing, reading, or watching reports of a terrifying Muslim-related event. The presence of Muslim minorities within western capitals has further complicated things, aggravating the intricate interplay of the local and the global.
Fears of a perpetual Muslim danger overlapped with deep-seated fears of immigrants, aliens, and strangers.
Explicating the truth
Coverage of Islam has turned into an industry specialising in the engineering of images, scenes, and messages.
In a globalised world governed by the power of the image, the question is no longer what has sparked this event or that incident and how it has unfolded on the ground, but how it gets captured by the camera and reported to viewers, listeners, and readers at home.
Some might argue, that the media merely reports what is already in existence. However things are not so straightforward in the real world. For the lens is neither neutral nor objective.
It is subject to a set of pre-defined choices and calculations that decide what we see and do not see, know and do not know.
The media is not a mirror reflecting what is out there. Its role is not simple, passive transmission, but active creation, shaping, and manufacturing, through a lengthy process of selection, filtering, interpretation, and editing.
The hidden arms that hold the reins of our media - the giant news corporations and their masters - are not benign charities driven by the love of humanity.
Paradigms of dissemination
Of the 57 countries in the vast geographic and cultural expanse known as the Muslim world, some are rich, others poor; some royal, others republican; some conservative, others liberal; some stable, others less so; some where women preside over the state, others that deny them the right to vote; some that oppress in the name of religion, others that do so in the name of secularism...etc
But this strikingly varied mosaic is absent from mainstream coverage of the subject. What is compound, complex, diverse, and multi-faceted turns into a plain surface without depth, reduced to a narrow set of narratives about blood-thirsty terrorists, shouting mobs, black turbans, battered wives, and caged daughters.
The Muslim world becomes a silent object that does not speak, but is spoken for, an anonymous background against which stands the reporter dispatched from the metropolis.
S/he is the agent of understanding, the one who deciphers this strange entity's mysterious codes and uncovers its secrets for us; the one who gives it meaning, truth and order.
Nowhere is this will to superficiality and reductionism more evident than in reports of conflicts in the Middle East.
Viewers are given a few minutes during which they watch and hear descriptions of wreckage, smoke, burnt cars, scorched bodies, severed limbs, blood, and wailing widows.
With no attempt to explain the underlying causes and histories of the crises in question, the reports merely compound existing misunderstanding.
The confusion is such that roles are often reversed, with the victim mistaken for the oppressor.
Prisms of perception
This is confirmed by a number of studies, such as the one conducted following the Palestinian Intifada by Greg Philo and Mike Berry of the Glasgow University Group.
The researchers monitored hours of BBC and ITV coverage of the 2002 Intifada, examined 200 news programmes, and interviewed over 800 people about their perceptions of the conflict .
The researchers encountered an alarming level of ignorance and confusion among the viewers, of whom only 9 per cent knew that the "occupied territories" were occupied by Israel, with the majority believing that the Palestinians were the occupiers.
This is hardly surprising given the unbalanced coverage and its tendency to obscure the central truths in the conflict: It does not tell us that over 418 Palestinian villages were destroyed in 1948, that their inhabitants were expelled in their hundreds of thousands, that Israel was largely established by force on 78 per cent of historic Palestine, that since 1967 it has illegally occupied and imposed various forms of military rule on the remaining 22 per cent, or that the majority of Palestinians - over 8 million - live as refugees today.
Reports of the Iraq war do not fare better. The viewer is given the impression that the country's ills are rooted in its people's bloodthirstiness and love of self-mutilation, with one sect and ethnicity vying for the other's destruction.
The Americans emerge as benign mediators whose role consists in imposing order and preventing the different groups from exterminating each other.
The causes of the ongoing state of chaos are increasingly being brushed under the carpet, viz the 150,000 strong army deployed to invade a country hundreds of miles away, the destruction of its infrastructure, systematic demolition of its national collective memory, desecration of its cultural heritage, erection of an ethnic and sectarian based political system, dissolution of its army in the name of "de-baathisation", and arming of one faction against the other - first the Kurdish Peshmarga, then the Shia militias in the name of "confronting the Sunni triangle", and finally al-Anbar's Sunni tribes under the pretext of combating Al Qaeda.
What the media reports do not tell us is that Iraqis continue to suffer not because they are Arabs, Muslims, brown-skinned, or followers of an "inherently violent" religious culture, but because they are the victims of a heartless power game that saw them as little more than insects, worthless creatures to trample on without bothering to count the dead.
The west seems to have created its own "machinery of truth" about Islam, Muslims, Arabs, and the Middle East.
Through it the lens is directed and small narratives are produced and reproduced ad infinitum.
The titles and headlines may vary, but they lead back to a narrow ring of notions that define Muslim society in the eyes of manufacturer and domesticated consumer alike.
These boil down to violence, fanaticism, irrationality, emotiveness, stagnation, subordination, and despotism. They are the pillars of an orthodoxy, which is popularised by the media and bolstered by a complex network of power centres and institutions.
To defy it is to place oneself outside the mainstream and within the margins, alongside outsiders, heretics, and truth monsters.
Soumaya Ghannoushi is a freelance writer specialising in the history of European Perceptions of Islam. Her work has appeared in a number of leading British papers including the Guardian and the Independent.
The views expressed in this article are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera's editorial policy.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/01/201112611591745716.html

 

[Roasted Cashew]

one would see that this is a normal method of demonizing movements that are gaining popular support among the populace

Alright, so you totally ignore the fact that Boko Haram has come out and claimed responsibility for the horrendous attacks...and if they didn't how hard is it to send on of your guys to Al-Jazeera and deny any involvements. I am sure these dirty tactics have been used by the colonists but we too have to open our eyes and accept that there are black sheep among us who commit violent atrocities and crimes against humanity and are a disgrace to Islam. Closing your eyes will not erase this fact. The day my fellow Muslims embrace this harsh reality will be a great day indeed for all of us.

 

[GuestFellow]

Which is precisely why newspapers are becoming extinct and corporate news agencies are losing audience .. Youtube and other independent sources have largely replaced .. When Corporate media starts giving opinions and dispenses with passive transmission of the news can many of us take some of these events with other than a grain of salt.. If it did happen then Islam doesn't condone it and their ideology is to be corrected.. but the fact inufacturing, through a lengthy process of selection, filtering, interpretation, and editing.
The hidden arms that hold the reins of our media - the giant news corporations and their masters - are not benign charities driven by the love of humanity.

Salaam,

Let me rephrase that...we can pretty much say that about everything we hear/see. You can have a video footage and pictures, but some will claim that it's a fake video/fake picture. I mean the only way we really find out what happened if we were there at the time...

All I can say is that there must be an element of truth in everything we hear/see. The truth may have been distorted/taken of out context, bla bla bla...

Like this article:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15533011

^ I can argue, do we really know the soldier raped the women? Some of us would be quick to accept the article's version of events. Other than the article, what evidence do we really have that the soldier raped the women? The women may have been lying. Maybe the whole incident may have been fabricated. :skeleton:


^ That's just an example...though it's not a good one lol.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

yup, they do come out with fake stories from scratch, all this happened in a film studio and was controlled by cnn:

here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0VxWZszyg

Thanks for sharing...but how does this story defame Islam?..Such skits to save cost of travelling were very common back then I guess and were not only used my western media alone.

 

[GuestFellow]

Alright, so you totally ignore the fact that Boko Haram has come out and claimed responsibility for the horrendous attacks...and if they didn't how hard is it to send on of your guys to Al-Jazeera and deny any involvements. I am sure these dirty tactics have been used by the colonists but we too have to open our eyes and accept that there are black sheep among us who commit violent atrocities and crimes against humanity and are a disgrace to Islam. Closing your eyes will not erase this fact. They day my fellow Muslims embrace this harsh reality will be a great day indeed for all of us.

Salaam,

Who knows, Boko Haram is claiming responsibility for the attacks in order to cause fear, when really it could have been another terror group. It could be a non-Muslim in disguise as a Muslim to make Muslims look bad. It could be a Muslim working with the CIA to cause instability and make Muslims look bad. It's possible the entire incident had never taken place and just fabricated by all the governments and the media for reasons to make Muslims look bad.

^ I can go on forever.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Salaam,

Who knows, Boko Haram is claiming responsibility for the attacks in order to cause fear, when really it could have been another terror group. It could be a non-Muslim in disguise as a Muslim to make Muslims look bad. It could be a Muslim working with the CIA to cause instability and make Muslims look bad. It's possible the entire incident had never taken place and just fabricated by all the governments and the media for reasons to make Muslims look bad.

^ I can go on forever.

haha..;D good one..(I assume you were being sarcastic there)

 

[جوري]

Other than the article, what evidence do we really have that the soldier raped the women? The women may have been lying. Maybe the whole incident may have been fabricated.

We don't hence certain things are judicial and left to the courts.. News is not a passive transmission of all the events.. there's editing, twisting, exclusions, additions etc... When Andrea yates killed her five kids I think everyone in America wanted her for a public beheading ..knowing even that there was a element of sickness in her.. When the story was in the courts, we saw a woman who was repeatedly let go from the Psych. ward because her insurance ran out.. Is she solely responsible then for the death of those children? if it were left to the initial story, we'd think a woman woke up one day sick of her husband weighed down by her five kids wanted to start fresh and plead insanity. I think youtube and independent media outlets not financially coerced by institutions are doing a great job and have largely replaced large corporate media..
Be that as it may I don't condone any act of terrorism or stupidity or frank khawarij posing as Muslims.. but I take news I read from mainstream news with a grain of salt until I can verify it all from multiple sources.. I think that's all anyone here is saying, because we've been burnt repeatedly.. and I agree that eastern news is even more notorious for lies.. one only needs to look at the disparity in the mainstream news in Syria and what's going on the streets.. They all have that ability.. Do you have much about the occupy wall street movement here? I hardly see a 5 sec news brief about it..
They create what they want, they augment what they want, they diminish what they want they add and subtract what they want.. I am not going to be a jackass imbuing whatever they dish out because they've rated themselves 'respectable and esteemed'

 

[GuestFellow]

haha..;D good one..(I assume you were being sarcastic there)

Salaam,

I was. But keep in mind, we don't truly know what happened (being serious). I'm aware Muslims can do terrible things, but we must treat ALL cases with caution and not jump to conclusions.

We don't hence certain things are judicial and left to the courts..

Some may argue the courts are corrupt and are working with the government.


[QUOTENews is not a passive transmission of all the events.. there's editing, twisting, exclusions, additions etc... When Andrea yates killed her five kids I think everyone in America wanted her for a public beheading ..knowing even that there was a element of sickness in her.. When the story was in the courts, we saw a woman who was repeatedly let go from the Psych. ward because her insurance ran out.. Is she solely responsible then for the death of those children? if it were left to the initial story, we'd think a woman woke up one day sick of her husband weighed down by her five kids wanted to start fresh and plead insanity. I think youtube and independent media outlets not financially coerced by institutions are doing a great job and have largely replaced large corporate media..
Be that as it may I don't condone any act of terrorism or stupidity or frank khawarij posing as Muslims.. but I take news I read from mainstream news with a grain of salt until I can verify it all from multiple sources.. I think that's all anyone here is saying, because we've been burnt repeatedly.. and I agree that eastern news is even more notorious for lies.. one only needs to look at the disparity in the mainstream news in Syria and what's going on the streets.. They all have that ability.. Do you have much about the occupy wall street movement here? I hardly see a 5 sec news brief about it..
They create what they want, they augment what they want, they diminish what they want they add and subtract what they want.. I am not going to be a jackass imbuing whatever they dish out because they've rated themselves 'respectable and esteemed'

[/QUOTE]

I agree.