Radical Muslim sect kill dozens in Nigeria Christmas bombs

Roasted Cashew said:
Alright, so you totally ignore the fact that Boko Haram has come out and claimed responsibility for the horrendous attacks
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they had also given us fake footage with obl "claiming" he had carried out 9/11, when actual obl interviews after 9/11 clearly said it was forbidden to target innocents even in the course of battle.
and you might also want to ask yourself why he wasn't wanted for the 9/11 attacks on fbi dot gov despite "claiming" he had carried it out.
yes, the lamestream media had us convinced that it was him and it was all based on torture "confessions" and conspiracy theory.

how many times have they told us that a group has "claimed responsibility" and later found that it was an email that came out of texas - proven through tracing?

do you have the official boko head at his office claiming he had ordered it? no, you would rather hear of fringe elements who have become a part of the group, at God knows who's bidding.

regarding fake videos, here's a source:
During planning for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the CIA’s Iraq Operations Group kicked around a number of ideas for discrediting Saddam Hussein in the eyes of his people.One was to create a video purporting to show the Iraqi dictator having sex with a teenage boy, according to two former CIA officials familiar with the project.“It would look like it was taken by a hidden camera,” said one of the former officials. “Very grainy, like it was a secret videotaping of a sex session.”The idea was to then “flood Iraq with the videos,” the former official said.Another idea was to interrupt Iraqi television programming with a fake special news bulletin. An actor playing Hussein would announce that he was stepping down in favor of his (much-reviled) son Uday.

http://www.infowars.com/cia-considered-making-fake-video-depicting-saddam-as-gay/​
 
Abz2000 said:
fringe elements who have become a part of the group
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So you do agree that there are fringe elements within this group which might have carried out this vicious and hateful attack...And I don't want to get into 9/11 conspiracy theories because it is prohibited to do so in this forum.
 
PoweredByGoogle said:
How do we know its true?
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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2011/11/2011115104423575815.html
The Nigerian group Boko Haram claimed responsibility for the attacks, which represent the most co-ordinated and wide-ranging assault yet in their increasingly bloody sectarian fight with the country's weak central government. "We are responsible for the attack in Borno [state] and Damaturu," Boko Haram spokesman Abul Qaqa told the AFP on Saturday.

Absolute despicable attack. Every Muslim should speak up and condemn this bombing instead of questioning the authenticity of the report.
 
Vision said:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2011/11/2011115104423575815.html
The Nigerian group Boko Haram claimed responsibility for the attacks, which represent the most co-ordinated and wide-ranging assault yet in their increasingly bloody sectarian fight with the country's weak central government. "We are responsible for the attack in Borno [state] and Damaturu," Boko Haram spokesman Abul Qaqa told the AFP on Saturday.

Absolute despicable attack. Every Muslim should speak up and condemn this bombing instead of questioning the authenticity of the report.
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Thank you. Finally a sane voice on this forum. I was beginning to feel that almost everyone here lives in his/her world surrounded by conspiracies.
 
Roasted Cashew said:
Thank you. Finally a sane voice on this forum. I was beginning to feel that almost everyone here lives in his/her world surrounded by conspiracies.
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I'd question my own sanity when everyone around me is a conspirator and I hold the only 'fact'!..
be that as it may we've already stated in as many words if it is true then it is despicable.. but those three words would put an end to your thread and you wouldn't get this golden opportunity to insult our intellect...

best,
 
ßlµêßêll said:
but those three words
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What words are we talking about here?

ßlµêßêll said:
this golden opportunity to insult our intellect
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I am not insulting anyone here but to say that everything around us is being conspired by big uncle Sam because it wants to defame Islam is also very ridiculous.. Uncle Sam is greedy, opportunistic and imperialistic but not a 24/7 anti-Islam conspirator. I would agree with you if u said US invaded Iraq for oil but if you were to tell me that it invaded Iraq because it hates Islam, then mind you I wouldn't agree. And please stop turning a blind eye to these black sheep among us who disgrace Islam and commit crimes against humanity.
 
Roasted Cashew said:
What words are we talking about here?
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'It is despicable'



http://www.islamicboard.com/world-affairs/I am not insulting anyone here but to say that everything around us is being conspired by big uncle Sam because it wants to defame Islam is also very ridiculous.. Uncle Sam is greedy, opportunistic and imperialistic but not a 24/7 anti-Islam conspirator. I would agree with you if u said US invaded Iraq for oil but if you were to tell me that it invaded Iraq because it hates Islam, then mind you I wouldn't agree. And please stop turning a blind eye to these black sheep among us who disgrace Islam and commit crimes against humanity.
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You'll forgive that we like to look once twice and thrice before we agree.. and glad to see you made it safely to Gujrat from Moscow..

best,
 
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ßlµêßêll said:
and glad to see you made it safely to Gujrat from Moscow..
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You noticed the change.. Nah, I am still in Moscow. I am a Pakistani though. It's just that I am confused what should go in that location field...my current location or my hometown..??
 
Roasted Cashew said:
You noticed the change.. Nah, I am still in Moscow. I am a Pakistani though. It's just that I am confused what should go in that location field...my current location or my hometown..??
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Hence looking once, twice and three times.. :)

best,
 
Greetings and peace be with you Roasted Cashew;

If we were to search for God amongst all this killing, I am sure he would want forgiveness, peace and reconcilliation, only God can act in a just way and put all things right.

Blessings

Eric
 
Greetings and peace be with you too.
Eric H said:
If we were to search for God amongst all this killing, I am sure he would want forgiveness, peace and reconcilliation, only God can act in a just way and put all things right.
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Indeed!
 
Vision said:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2011/11/2011115104423575815.html
The Nigerian group Boko Haram claimed responsibility for the attacks, which represent the most co-ordinated and wide-ranging assault yet in their increasingly bloody sectarian fight with the country's weak central government. "We are responsible for the attack in Borno [state] and Damaturu," Boko Haram spokesman Abul Qaqa told the AFP on Saturday.

Absolute despicable attack. Every Muslim should speak up and condemn this bombing instead of questioning the authenticity of the report.
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Aslaaam O Alaikum....


Quran clearly condemns and since Quran does so do we Since we're Muslims...


(6:151) ...and do NOT take any Human being's life - (the life)which God has declared to to be sacred - otherwise than (in pursuit of) justice: this has He enjoined upon you so that you might use your reason!


(5:32) ...If any one slays a human being unless it be (in punishment) for murder or for spreading corruption on Earth - it shall be as though he had slain all mankind! where as if any one saved a Life, it shall be as though he had saved the lives of all mankind!


and i would also suggest that if delved a little more on the subject of Boko Haram in Nigeria you'll find that the main cause of these killings is the government itself because the government is corrupt and many politicians exploit these conditions for their own benefit just like it happens in every other country.... so its not Islam or Muslims who are to be blamed....please read below...


Government blamed



Salisu Mohammed, a conflict management specialist, told Al Jazeera that Nigerian authorities should have acted sooner to stop the proliferation of Boko Haram.


"Many people have known of the existence of this group, silently and within the community, especially in the last year," he said.


"They are becoming more extreme because in the past there wasn't a major push in place to check their proliferation.


"They are taking advantage of a broken-down structural condition in Nigeria that people can take the law into their hands without getting reprimanded."


Analysts have also said that at the heart of this week's violence is dire poverty and political manoeuvring - not religion.


They believe attacks were committed mainly by frustrated, unemployed youths and orchestrated by religious leaders and politicians who manipulate them to retain power.


Mohammed Yusuf, the group's leader, was killed in the aftermath of clashes between Boko Haram and Nigerian police in August 2009.


The police said that he was killed while trying to escape from custody, but his body was found in the street, still handcuffed, raising concerns that he had been the victim of an extrajudicial killing.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/Africa/2009/07/200972913529620235.html


.....since the government has Christians as well then should we blame everything on the Christians ? Obviously no because innocent Christians have nothing to do with it and neither has their faith anything to do with it.


So Muslims and Christians both have to condemn the killings and the reasons which lead towards this mess should also be kept in view by both.

Salaam.
 
I am actually watching BBC World News as I type, and in the news, Pastor AYO ORITSEJAFOR, the head of Nigeria Christians Association is issuing command to all christians in Nigeria:

Do what you have to do.

and when he was asked by the journalist why not turning the other cheek, the pastor replied:
We don't have the other cheek.

Tha pastor went on to say that in the history of christianity they were never the one who attacked, but now they will have to retaliate. umm...okay.

errr.... isn't this what is accused of the terrorists: that they feel they are justified in carrying attacks because "they have to do what they have to do"?

With this kind of looney pastor, it is no wonder that there will be more religious conflicts in Nigeria.
 
Also, as a side note, as far as I know, BBC never interviewed any muslim leader in Nigeria, while it keeps projecting news from the point of view of christians in this particular issue.
 
Greetings and peace be with you Ramadhan;

and when he was asked by the journalist why not turning the other cheek, the pastor replied:
We don't have the other cheek.
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Sadly the human need for justice is far greater than than following the commands of God, we should love and pray for our enemies, we should turn the other cheek, we should forgive.

The ways of God are hard to follow.

In the spirit of praying for forgiveness and reconcilliation.

Eric
 

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