to divorce or not...a wifes choice..

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This is a very difficult area for any of us who do not know what living such a life is really like to comment on. It is very easy to say remain in such a situation and be patient for the rest of your life but how when your still relatively young? She still has many yearsleft ans soon all her kids would have flocked the nest then what will become of her?

Does the woman not have the right to have her own needs and wants fulfilled and to be given love affection and be given attention? Yes things may go wrong if she leaves but they may also go right. Surely anythings better than living such a deadlife. What if remaining in such a situation is affecting her imaan? What kind of a bitter life would she live knowing she also has a full right to have her needs fulfilled.

I personally think the sister should get advice from her local scholar on this matter and then make isthikhara and ask and beg of Allah particularly in the latter part of the night at Tahajjud time to do what is best for her in this matter.

May Allah do what is best for you in this matter. Ameen

shukran brother for your time and concern

all the answers give me alot to think about

in this day and age idont think im that old yet to just givwe up,,
and a woman has a right to contentment,,,
i dont think 40s it last part of our lifespan
of course we dont know which day will be our last ,,but iwould hope istill have many years ahead inshallah

and another concern is yes this situation has affected my faith in some ways..ireahced some very low points and almost lost my way,,
hamdullilah im much stronger now ,but istill have weak moments,, and sometimes its so hard in this situation

its a situation i must think deeply about ..i have made istikhara but until now am no clearer
i aks Allah to help me find the irght decsiosn
 
shukran brother for your time and concern

all the answers give me alot to think about

in this day and age idont think im that old yet to just givwe up,,
and a woman has a right to contentment,,,
i dont think 40s it last part of our lifespan
of course we dont know which day will be our last ,,but iwould hope istill have many years ahead inshallah

and another concern is yes this situation has affected my faith in some ways..ireahced some very low points and almost lost my way,,
hamdullilah im much stronger now ,but istill have weak moments,, and sometimes its so hard in this situation

its a situation i must think deeply about ..i have made istikhara but until now am no clearer
i aks Allah to help me find the irght decsiosn

My sister it is not the Islamic perspective to remain unhappy and in a dead marriage. It certainly is against Islam for a man not to fulfill the rights of his partner. You have every right to have your needs and desires fulfilled by your husband. You also have every right to be loved and cared for and be given attention. Why should aby woman be deprived of this. Your children are not so young that they would be so affected by it. You also have to consider your health and imaan.

Islam promotes a happy marriage where both partners fulfill each others rights, needs and wants. So the Islamic perspective is for you to be happy not to bare such torture for no reason where your partner does not even fulfill your rights.

Therefore as I mentioned to you before, get in touch with a local reliable and experienced scholar which I will help you with if you pm me your locality, and ask and beg of Allah in the latter part of the night at Tahajjud time and entrust all of your affairs unto Allah and accept his decree for he will certainly do what is best for you.
 
Assalamu alaykum. I wanted to add somethings to my last post but thought I'd leave it 'til later. I'll raise those points now Insha Allah.

@Brother Hamzah I agree it's very hard. So I'm not saying our sister must do what I said, but that it is an option for the purpose of greater good. I understand if she can't do that and I certainly wouldn't think any less of my sister for it.

However, the following is more or less what I wanted to say following my last post..
I don't think losing closeness in marriage means we should start thinking of divorce . Divorce should only become an option when despite the efforts to both parties to resolve the issue harming the marriage have failed and the marriage has become harmful. I know Islam doesn't imprison a person. But divorce remains the last resort. Our sister said her husband doesn't think there is a problem. So clearly the issue hasn't been addressed openly.

It may be that the sister herself withdrew from her husband when he remarried. Polygamy isn't easy and a woman might feel resentful. In turn this may make it hard for her to show her husband the same love as before. He may pick up on this and feel as if he is forcing her to show him affection. So they both take the easy way and that is to pretend everything is ok when it isn't. That is until one of them thinks enough is enough.

So the point remains that this problem needs to be addressed by the sister, with her husband. If there are psychological issues of feeling inferior to the second wife perhaps the husband can provide assurance. If a person withdraws into themselves and rather than making the effort to make their place and value in a polygamous marriage then the issue is related to their feelings and not necessarily a problem with the marriage itself. Feelings change all the time. Even in the best marriages, no one is feels in love all the time. Hence I want the sister to be honest with herself about where the problem lies and address it before considering divorce.

Personally I am deeply concerned for the sister's future and I would only feel assured divorce is right for her if all attempts to save the marriage had failed. We can't allow ourselves to believe we have tried our best when we haven't as Allah knows better what we do. And when divorce is called the last resort it really does imply that everything possible had been done to save the marriage first.

If the husband provides separate accommodation, and sees the sister in the privacy of her own place, chances are that whatever damage has been done can be reversed. This is why I am disliking the mention of divorce when there are still ways to save the marriage. Divorce rates within the Ummah are increasing, because too many marriage are being thrown away without real attempts to save them.

I'm sure any scholar presented with this case, will ask to see both parties and examine all issues before giving his opinion. Even in the worst marriages they advise patience and recommend ways to solve problems. Then clearly where the request for divorce is not based violence, neglect, or emotional abuse, he will be even stronger in his opinion that a couple try to fix the marriage. Scholars have a great responsibility and they fear being haste in matters of divorce. Insha Allah the sister will find a good scholar if needs be.

I pray Allah guides our sister to be deal with all the issues with the utmost integrity and makes it easy for her and all concerned. Ameen Ya Rabbil alaameen.
 
Assalamu alaykum. I wanted to add somethings to my last post but thought I'd leave it 'til later. I'll raise those points now Insha Allah.

@Brother Hamzah I agree it's very hard. So I'm not saying our sister must do what I said, but that it is an option for the purpose of greater good. I understand if she can't do that and I certainly wouldn't think any less of my sister for it.

However, the following is more or less what I wanted to say following my last post..
I don't think losing closeness in marriage means we should start thinking of divorce . Divorce should only become an option when despite the efforts to both parties to resolve the issue harming the marriage have failed and the marriage has become harmful. I know Islam doesn't imprison a person. But divorce remains the last resort. Our sister said her husband doesn't think there is a problem. So clearly the issue hasn't been addressed openly.

It may be that the sister herself withdrew from her husband when he remarried. Polygamy isn't easy and a woman might feel resentful. In turn this may make it hard for her to show her husband the same love as before. He may pick up on this and feel as if he is forcing her to show him affection. So they both take the easy way and that is to pretend everything is ok when it isn't. That is until one of them thinks enough is enough.

So the point remains that this problem needs to be addressed by the sister, with her husband. If there are psychological issues of feeling inferior to the second wife perhaps the husband can provide assurance. If a person withdraws into themselves and rather than making the effort to make their place and value in a polygamous marriage then the issue is related to their feelings and not necessarily a problem with the marriage itself. Feelings change all the time. Even in the best marriages, no one is feels in love all the time. Hence I want the sister to be honest with herself about where the problem lies and address it before considering divorce.

Personally I am deeply concerned for the sister's future and I would only feel assured divorce is right for her if all attempts to save the marriage had failed. We can't allow ourselves to believe we have tried our best when we haven't as Allah knows better what we do. And when divorce is called the last resort it really does imply that everything possible had been done to save the marriage first.

If the husband provides separate accommodation, and sees the sister in the privacy of her own place, chances are that whatever damage has been done can be reversed. This is why I am disliking the mention of divorce when there are still ways to save the marriage. Divorce rates within the Ummah are increasing, because too many marriage are being thrown away without real attempts to save them.

I'm sure any scholar presented with this case, will ask to see both parties and examine all issues before giving his opinion. Even in the worst marriages they advise patience and recommend ways to solve problems. Then clearly where the request for divorce is not based violence, neglect, or emotional abuse, he will be even stronger in his opinion that a couple try to fix the marriage. Scholars have a great responsibility and they fear being haste in matters of divorce. Insha Allah the sister will find a good scholar if needs be.

I pray Allah guides our sister to be deal with all the issues with the utmost integrity and makes it easy for her and all concerned. Ameen Ya Rabbil alaameen.

salam sister,,thank you fro your kind words and concern

iknow your riiight that divorce is alast resort after everyhitng has been exhausted and after all attempts at reconcilation have failed

yes its true my husbabnd thinks all is ok ,,we went throught deep problems and nearly divorced,,but yes things are calmer now
yes he thinks its ok becasue he has life just as he wants it,,he doesn t understand anymroe how ifeel we never talk fo feelings
he thinks im well taken care of have all i need,,but for some yeARS NOW, noone cares for my emotional needs..he does not..have no family no close friends,,i have boys who are distant not close,,in feelings
its hard living wiht emptiness inside and always trying to put on a brave face,,,and pretend all is fine
my health is susffering im stressed idont sleep,,,
sometimes ifeel icant cope
my husband thinks he has the situation under control and all is fine
and its hard to talk to him and tell him im not at all happy

yes maybe ishould just make the best of it,,,
but then why should icontinue in an empty marriage,,when my third son grows and leaves what will i have left

but ideeply appreciate your advice and wisdom and your making me think carefully

thank you dear sister
 
Thank you for your reply dear sis,

I trust you to know better than anyone else the possibilities of making the marriage work ukhti, and so if you don’t think anything will change because your husband doesn’t see there’s a problem, then you have to do what is best for you ukhti. As I mentioned before, there’s no blame on you whatever you decide provided you’ve done what you could. That doesn’t mean I’ll stop worrying about you though : )
So please sis, take lots of care and look after yourself. And always take advantage of making istikhara in your future decisions. I pray Allah makes everything easy for you, and gives you much peace and happiness and the best in both lives. Ameen
 
I think sister the best course of action for you is the following:

1. Try your best to open all the doors of communication between you and and your husband. Be firm in telling him how you feel and what you want from him. Share your feelings, need, desires and wants. Inform him of your rights as a wife.

2. If you have exhausted all means of trying to communicate with him then get a mediator like an elder in the family or marriage counsellor involved.

3. If this still doesnt work then get in touch with a local reliable and experienced scholar who will advise you as to your best course of action.

Pray, beg and ask for Allah especially in the latter part of the night to do what is best for you. If your trust is with Allah then you will always be satisfied with the outcome no matter what it is.

You can pm me anytime with your location and I will help you locate a local scholar inshallah.
 

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