Tunisia will protect 'burka or bikini' choice

[CosmicPathos]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/9704610.stm

may such "moderate Islam" be dam-ned.

 

[جوري]

That reporter also needed a whack on the head. I am utterly repulsed by his ilk, he's leading and the other guy is defensive..ugh

 

[TrueStranger]

I think Tunisia has a right to impose decency laws in their country. But to be honest, most of our Muslim leaders are just not experienced when it comes to arguing or advocating for their policies. We are in an age where words are used as weapons, and the Muslims are sadly on the losing side.

 

[Santoku]

I don't suppose you have checked the Tunisian economy lately , have you?

Following the Jasmine revolution the economy took a hit so they really cannot afford lose any more. The service industry (pre-revolution) contributed about 60% of their earnings, formost of the service industry read Tourism. No tourists no cash, they want tourists (or at leaqast their money), the tourists want to get a suntan (yeah ridiculous I know) so to get the money they have to get the tourists and not scare them away. Note tourism is already down due to uncertainty of the current situation so they need to do what it takes to get it up.

 

[جوري]

I don't suppose you have checked the Tunisian economy lately , have you?

Following the Jasmine revolution the economy took a hit so they really cannot afford lose any more. The service industry (pre-revolution) contributed about 60% of their earnings, formost of the service industry read Tourism. No tourists no cash, they want tourists (or at leaqast their money), the tourists want to get a suntan (yeah ridiculous I know) so to get the money they have to get the tourists and not scare them away. Note tourism is already down due to uncertainty of the current situation so they need to do what it takes to get it up.

:lol: that's the sort of crap that you and your ilk peddle at the end of the day to frighten folks into debauchery? I hate to break it to you but have a look at the world wide economy.. If I were you I'd save my pennies and buy some garment with them in lieu of spending them on Tunisian nude beaches.
Tourism is never and was never a solid foundation to sustain any country's economy. Maybe they'll wake up have a say in what they plant for a change and it won't all be France's outskirt vineyard... or the better hope for a united Ummah where the wealth and commodities are distributed equally the way it was meant to be!

funny stuff...

 

[Santoku]

I hate to break it to you but have a look at the world wide economy.. If I were you I'd save my pennies and buy some garment with them in lieu of spending them on Tunisian nude beaches.
Tourism is never and was never a solid foundation to sustain any country's economy. Maybe they'll wake up have a say in what they plant for a change and it won't all be France's outskirt vineyard... or the better hope for a united Ummah where the wealth and commodities are distributed equally the way it was meant to be!

funny stuff...

I do not go to Tunisian nudebeaches (are there any?)
And you are right tourism is a shaky base for an economy, but if it what you have then, surely the intelligent thing is to use it while you transfer your economic base to a more stable and reliable source of income.

As for the united Ummah, that is, as you say, just a hope and if you take a handfull of silver to the market and a handfull of hope guess which one will buy food for your family.

 

[جوري]

I do not go to Tunisian nudebeaches (are there any?)

You like to promote debauchery but not participate? what is that nobility or hypocrisy?

And you are right tourism is a shaky base for an economy, but if it what you have then, surely the intelligent thing is to use it while you transfer your economic base to a more stable and reliable source of income.

I can think of a zillion other ways to do it, that don't include some derivative of the porn interest.. What's the matter no imagination? Always relying on the world's oldest profession to butter your bread? Try fasting sometimes!

As for the united Ummah, that is, as you say, just a hope and if you take a handfull of silver to the market and a handfull of hope guess which one will buy food for your family.

:haha: guess we'll have to wait & see on that one ey?

best,

 

[Darth Ultor]

You know, a country has the right to impose any law it wants in its borders without criticism as long as they don't violate human or civil rights (that includes the US, France, and Israel so don't even try bringing them up). Tunisia has the right to be as lenient and secular as the Netherlands or as strict and religious as KSA.

 

[CosmicPathos]

You know, a country has the right to impose any law it wants in its borders without criticism as long as they don't violate human or civil rights (that includes the US, France, and Israel so don't even try bringing them up). Tunisia has the right to be as lenient and secular as the Netherlands or as strict and religious as KSA.

yea then jihadists have the right to bomb such a tunisia into oblivion.

 

[Santoku]

You like to promote debauchery but not participate? what is that nobility or hypocrisy?

There are as far as can be found No naturist/nudist beaches in Tunisia. So that is out, but what do you mean by debauchery, I was taught that debauchery means either a. Extreme indulgence in sensual pleasures; dissipation. or b. Orgies.
Option b I neither support nor promote, option a, I will admit to, settling down on a winter evening in front of a log fire with my wifebeside me and a mug of hot chocolate in my hands, listening to a little Bach or Beethoven is indeed highly pleasurable, but not, I think sinful.

I can think of a zillion other ways to do it, that don't include some derivative of the porn interest.. What's the matter no imagination? Always relying on the world's oldest profession to butter your bread? Try fasting sometimes!


best,

Please tell us then, you have six months to bolster a nations economy and totally change its direction from primarily service to another direction, please give an example of one or two of the zillion (is that more or less than a million, by the way?) ways you have of doing this. And tourism is not the oldest profession, nor as a matter of interest is prostitution, but that is another story.
And I have tried fasting, I do so quite regularly, not bad for a short time but for a year or two it is not recommended, at least not the sort of fast where you do not eat at all.

:haha: guess we'll have to wait & see on that one ey?

best,

I would guess that you have never been on the breadline, have you? Never had to worry about where the money is going to come from, perhaps you should get down there one day and then maybe you will not make jokes about feeding your family or watching them go without because a hungry child or wife is not funny, not in the slightest.

 

[جوري]

There are as far as can be found No naturist/nudist beaches in Tunisia. So that is out, but what do you mean by debauchery, I was taught that debauchery means either a. Extreme indulgence in sensual pleasures; dissipation. or b. Orgies.
Option b I neither support nor promote, option a, I will admit to, settling down on a winter evening in front of a log fire with my wifebeside me and a mug of hot chocolate in my hands, listening to a little Bach or Beethoven is indeed highly pleasurable, but not, I think sinful.

what you don't get can fill compendiums.. Also I don't care to hear about your personal life nor discuss mine.. You are not interesting!

Please tell us then, you have six months to bolster a nations economy and totally change its direction from primarily service to another direction, please give an example of one or two of the zillion (is that more or less than a million, by the way?) ways you have of doing this. And tourism is not the oldest profession, nor as a matter of interest is prostitution, but that is another story.
And I have tried fasting, I do so quite regularly, not bad for a short time but for a year or two it is not recommended, at least not the sort of fast where you do not eat at all.

http://www.tunisia-live.net/2012/02...ab-emirates-send-humanitarian-aid-to-tunisia/
that's one way that doesn't include opening your doors to prostitution!

I would guess that you have never been on the breadline, have you? Never had to worry about where the money is going to come from, perhaps you should get down there one day and then maybe you will not make jokes about feeding your family or watching them go without because a hungry child or wife is not funny, not in the slightest.

I'd rather go hungry than sell my soul!

best,

 

[Santoku]

what you don't get can fill compendiums.. Also I don't care to hear about your personal life nor discuss mine.. You are not interesting!

That is very true,I freely admit that there are reams of stuff I do not know. But I try to amend this.

http://www.tunisia-live.net/2012/02/...id-to-tunisia/
that's one way that doesn't include opening your doors to prostitution!

So your solution to a nations econmoic problem is to live indefinitely on anothers charity.
And what happens if they decide to cut off that lifeline?

I'd rather go hungry than sell my soul!

And you partner and your children, would you condemn them , too?

 

[جوري]

So your solution to a nations econmoic problem is to live indefinitely on anothers charity.
And what happens if they decide to cut off that lifeline?

You asked for a solution outside of your proposal and we have evinced that such exist, and if we bring another then you'll also dislike it and another you'll dislike it until we get down to the very base heart of the matter....

There are other things in the folds of faith, reliance on God and community and ummah that can't be made clear to you & as such I won't bother.. but try to at least accept the fact that not everyone can be bought by money even if you think the price is right and it is a sad thing indeed that they're made so scarce in the world you know that you can't fathom a world outside of it..

best,

 

[Santoku]

You asked for a solution outside of your proposal and we have evinced that such exist, and if we bring another then you'll also dislike it and another you'll dislike it until we get down to the very base heart of the matter....

There are other things in the folds of faith, reliance on God and community and ummah that can't be made clear to you & as such I won't bother.. but try to at least accept the fact that not everyone can be bought by money even if you think the price is right and it is a sad thing indeed that they're made so scarce in the world you know that you can't fathom a world outside of it..

best,

Indeed I did and I admit you provided it, however do you really think that 3 military planes worth of aid from Qatar and an unspecified donation of food will last for ever?
Do you really think this is a long term solution? Seriously??

 

[جوري]

umm they can utalize their natural resources:
Natural resources

Tunisia possesses petroleum, phosphates, iron ore, lead, zinc, salt and arable land. 3,850 km² of land is irrigated in Tunisia. The use of land in the country is demonstrated in the following table.
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do business with other countries or have tourists that have no desire to wear bikinis believe it or not Muslim women can swim too they just don't need to take their clothes off to do it .. like with everything else it is about talent, and personality and character not your nakedness that counts.

Olympians too..


best,