Why are muslims killing eachother?

[creative]

I read the newspapers daily and sometimes i read stories about suicide bombers etc. Why do muslims do this?

 

[Marina-Aisha]

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[User29123]

Re: Why are muslims killing each other?

In places like Iraq / Afghan we could never comment on the true situation, it could have been a Christian or the Americans could have done it, we have seen in the past where they blame Muslims for such acts (9/11 is one). It could also be stereotyping if you keep labelling someone your a terrorist or murder they may feel that way and carry out those actions. It could just be plain depression too.

 

[ardianto]

Why Muslims kill other Muslims?, why Christians kill other Christians?, why Muslims kill Christians? why Christians kill Muslims?, why Muslims or Christians kill people from other religions?, why people from other religions kill Muslims or Christians?.

All of these questions have the same answer. One party want another party to follow what they want, but another party refuse. So, the first party force the second party with violence, the second party fight back.

In this situation every tie that bind them is nothing. There's no brother in faith, there's no brother in ethnic, there's no brother in ideology, just the enemy.

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

Greetings of peace

I've read the Qur'aan and a number of ahadeeth and they've not encouraged or adviced muslims to kill innocents or take life of one's own self. Is it wise to learn about Islaam from the newspaper?

Why do muslims do this?

Muslim's aren't suppose to do this, and please be careful with your use of words when saying 'muslim's it suggests your including the whole of the muslim nation, it is either those who've lacked in knowledge or misinterpretation, when in fact they need to be corrected, taught or just like anti-islam individual who likes to 'teach' about islaam with his own interpretation, while he's mis-quoting verses out of context from the Qur'aan or situations as it suits him!

In order to prove muslims actually do this, you have to atleast back it up with evidence.

I suggest you study your deen inshaa'Allaah as it states 'islam' under your avatar. To learn your deen it is better to go to a knowledgeable individual, in this case a muslim scholar.

If you go back to the teachings of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh), tell me did he Sallaahu 'Alaayhi wa salam advice/encourage us muslim's to go on killing each other?! answer is no! So just because some 'muslim's do a certain wrong, does not in the slightest mean Islaam teaches to be this or that way or that every muslim is like that.

In fact these guy's who are fighting are going against the teachings of RasoolAllaah Sallaahu 'Alaayhi wa salam and his rabb!

Keep in mind, there's a reason to why were accountable for our own deeds.

They do fight, yes a fact, but doesn't just exist amongst muslims, it exists amongst the entire human race, from every corner of this earth, human's get's angry including muslims, but doesn't mean it's always good. good rarely ever comes out of anger that is expressed in action but we as human's all have weaknesses, regardless of race, ethnicity, faith etc etc. But we also have the ability to strive on improving ourselves and controlling ourself.

I'm not sure if i've answered your question completely, and i hope i've made sense, and correct me if i've misunderstood you in any way at all.

 

[CosmicPathos]

In fact these guy's who are fighting are going against the teachings of Rasoolllaah Sallaahu 'Alaayhi wa salam and his rabb!

In fact that is what they say about ppl like yourself or others who are against suicide bombing. Who is right?

 

[TrueStranger]

I can not stand these Muslims who blow up themselves and innocent Muslims in the middle of universities, streets, markets, and the list goes on. Let's not forget the third Caliph was killed by Muslims.

Expect anything from humans, regardless of their creed, race, gender, and age.

 

[CosmicPathos]

you see the people killed as innocents, but they dont see them as innocents in the very first place. According to them, a person who works for an American firm becomes waajib ul qatl because this "Muslim" is providing his services to kaafirs' benefit, the very kaafirs who indirectly kill other Muslims.

 

[TrueStranger]

They are obviously as blind as a bat. Do you think mothers, fathers, and widows want to hear about their perverted vision of the world?

And who are you to speak for those who blow themselves up when they are mostly surrounded by 100% Muslims?

American firm? They attack people who have nothing to do with America/The West or even know how to spell America. Stop presenting their twisted explanations. It's an insult to the innocent Muslims who had their bodies blown into pieces while earning their livings.

Play the devil's advocate another day with another topic.

 

[CosmicPathos]

They are obviously as blind as a bat. Do you think mothers, fathers, and widows want to hear about their perverted vision of the world?

And who are you to speak for those who blow themselves up when they are mostly surrounded by 100% Muslims?

i dont know what fathers and mothers want to hear. but there is some truth to the fact that if you work for kaafir companies, you are supporting and strengthening the kaafirs by your skills. these kaafirs, one way or another, end up killing muslims. so knowingly or unknowingly, you are supporting it, in globalized world.

i am not speaking for anyone. I am just stating what they think and why they dont see me or you as "innocent." we are probably waajib ul qatl just because we decided to live among kaafirs in their countries rather than among muslims in muslims lands.

 

[TrueStranger]

i dont know what fathers and mothers want to hear. but there is some truth to the fact that if you work for kaafir companies, you are supporting and strengthening the kaafirs by your skills. these kaafirs, one way or another, end up killing muslims. so knowingly or unknowingly, you are supporting it, in globalized world.

i am not speaking for anyone. I am just stating what they think.

Stop presenting illogical and flawed views of idiots who kill Muslims DIRECTLY, while blaming those same Muslims they massacred for supposedly killing Muslims "INDIRECTLY".

I know quite well what their views and perceptions are, and presenting them does not change the fact that they are extremely wrong.

 

[CosmicPathos]

Stop presenting illogical and flawed views of idiots who kill Muslims DIRECTLY, while blaming those same Muslims they massacred for supposedly killing Muslims "INDIRECTLY".

i dont see any flaws or illogical nature of them. i just find them to be against Quran. Perhaps you might want us to show the illogical nature before we begin to take you seriously?

 

[TrueStranger]

i dont see any flaws or illogical nature of them. i just find them to be against Quran. Perhaps you might want us to show the illogical nature before we begin to take you seriously?

If you can not use your God given brain to understand how killing people convicted of no crime based on "perception" of supposed wrongdoings is naturally flawed, then we can not take you serious.


Like I said before, play the devil's advocate when you see a sister, brother, father, mother, or even a child of yours blown into pieces and then we will see how much you will entertain their "logical" views.

G'night

 

[CosmicPathos]

If you can not use your God given brain to understand how killing people convicted of no crime based on "perception" of supposed wrongdoings is naturally flawed, then we can not take you serious.


Like I said before, play the devil's advocate when you see a sister, brother, father, mother, or even a child of yours blown into pieces and then we will see how much you will entertain their "logical" views.

G'night

logical fallacy. appeal to emotion.

my God given brain tells me that first murder was done by the son of the very first Prophet Adam. Its what makes us humans. Murder is wrong. But these people dont believe they are murdering. They believe they are doing qital fi sabeel Allah. Of course a murderer doesnt believe that he is doing qitaal for Allah. But these guys believe so. In their world, they are right.

and i can see why they do it. they see Muslim youngsters dying to work for Micorsoft but none wanting to be imaam of masjid, so I guess they react to that reality of life by shunning all things of kufaar.

 

[ardianto]

Friday noon, 15 April 2011.

A guy entered a masjid in Cirebon city police station, Indonesia. He sat with other jama'ah, nothing happened. However, when jama'ah started the first raka'ah of salah jum'ah, he pushed a button on his belly. The bomb under his shirt exploded and killed him. Amazingly, people around him were only wounded, but saved.

Later he's known as a member of a Muslim organization in Cirebon city. So, news reporter visited and asked the head of organization.
"Is he a member in your organization"
"Not again. He left us and establish his own group" the head of organization replied.
"Why?"
"He doesn't match again with us. He has been turn into radical, call other Muslims as kufar, said the masjid in Cirebon police station as kufar's masjid".
"When he began turn into radical?"
"Since he learned Islam from internet"

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

As'Salaamu Alaaykum

In fact that is what they say about ppl like yourself or others who are against suicide bombing. Who is right?

The statement you quoted from my post, was referring to those muslims who are fighting each other, is that correct? are we taught to fight each other or make peace? This isn't even about suicide bombing or fighting against the enemy or for the sake of defense etc.

Regards to the permissibility of suicide bombing provide your evidence inshaa'Allaah.. I am interested to know if there is any evidence supporting this, perhaps due to my lack of knowledge.

I understand there are scholars who class suicide as forbidden in all cases, while other's allow it as a last resort.

What is your view on this video?

Jazakallaahu Khaayr.

 

[TrueStranger]

logical fallacy. appeal to emotion.

my God given brain tells me that first murder was done by the son of the very first Prophet Adam. Its what makes us humans. Murder is wrong. But these people dont believe they are murdering. They believe they are doing qital fi sabeel Allah. Of course a murderer doesnt believe that he is doing qitaal for Allah. But these guys believe so. In their world, they are right.

and i can see why they do it. they see Muslim youngsters dying to work for Micorsoft but none wanting to be imaam of masjid, so I guess they react to that reality of life by shunning all things of kufaar.

Appeal to emotion? Does the subject has any?

Stop fabricating lies for the sake of murderous individuals who kill innocent Muslims who never heard of Microsoft. When did they attack any Microsoft companies or Muslims working for Microsoft? The answer is ANDA!

Murder doesn't make us human, it dehumanizes us. Killing someone in an Islamic way is not murder. Anyways, stop trying to hide under the pretext that you are stating "what they think", you are stating your views not theirs on this board. Typical of you.

 

[Abu.Yusuf]

regarding suicide bombings in places where innocent people are located [market, school etc], most liekly these are done by the Americans and their allies themselves. This is propaganda against the Muslims who are fighting them back [i.e Taliban in afghanistan] and it is all part of their illegal war.

 

[CosmicPathos]

Murder doesn't make us human, it dehumanizes us

huh, how so? what do you mean by dehumanized? So having sexual desires is also dehumanization or you'd accept it as part of being a human, only since you probably have them too? Or desires for companionship? Or desires for material wealth? Or desires for looking good in the mirror and to others?

These guys desire to destroy the kufaar, so they do it in whatever way they can.

 

[CosmicPathos]

Anyways, stop trying to hide under the pretext that you are stating "what they think", you are stating your views not theirs on this board. Typical of you.

ad hominem personal attacks. Mods, take note.