Pet pigs

[Sunnie Ameena]

I know that we do not eat pork, but it is wrong for a Muslim to have a pet potbellied pig? I'm just curious. lol

 

[TrueStranger]

I have no idea. I don't see why not, but maybe someone with more knowledge on this area will give you a better answer.

Is the image below by any chance a potbellied pig? ;D I could see why they call it potbellied.

 

[جوري]

I hate pigs outside of religion just really can't stand them or parrots or monkeys I can't imagine anyone would want to live with such a vile creature..
why would anyone defile their house with such a filthy creature? Animals belong in nature, in the wild not trapped in homes...

 

[Sunnie Ameena]

Yes TrueStranger, that is indeed a potbellied pig. I will be looking for more responses.

 

[Abz2000]

pigs are one of the dirtiest animals i have seen
they eat cud
i remember under the bridge in bd there were some hindus who had pigs, and all the waste would be thrown under the bridge and the whole place stank, but the pigs just enjoyed themselves in that stuff,
they'd poo in that place all day, and eat from the same place with their faces in the mud, and then poop back in it again, and eat it again.
used to feel like vomiting every time i passed,
that did me.
and to think i didnt think it was so bad growing up here not knowing anything about them but the cute little pink piggies with curly tails
the truth is far from it lol

[video=youtube;4nZAhexhxbs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=4nZAhexhxbs[/video]

 

[Hamza Asadullah]

I know that we do not eat pork, but it is wrong for a Muslim to have a pet potbellied pig? I'm just curious. lol

Pigs have been made impure for us and therefore tt is not even permissable to wear products made from pig let alone keeping it as a pet. When Isa (As) descends he will also kill the pig:

The Prophet (Sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said: "(I swear) By him in Whose Hands my soul is, the son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizyah (a tax taken from the non-Muslims who are in the protection of the Muslim government).” [Al-Bukhaari, Muslim]

Sheikh Mufti Ebrahim Desai says regarding keeping animals such as pigs:

To keep harmful animals or animals deemed impure in the Shariah eg. pigs ,
as pets would not be permissible. Other animals eg: cats, sheep, goats,
birds, fish etc. are permissible to keep as pets.

Source: http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/ask.pl?q=5745&act=view

So keeping a pig or wearing any product made from pig is not permissable as it is impure.

And Allah knows best in all matters

 

[Marina-Aisha]

i didnt even know u could get clothes made from pig..wow thats totally gross

 

[جوري]

Yup leather shoes and belts are't always bovine in origin...

 

[Sunnie Ameena]

Hazma Asadullah, thank you for the information, that answered all my questions. Sunnie Ameena

 

[Marina-Aisha]

Yup leather shoes and belts are't always bovine in origin...

eeew thats gross, so is it best not to buy leather things?

 

[GuestFellow]

Pigs have been made impure for us and therefore tt is not even permissable to wear products made from pig let alone keeping it as a pet. When Isa (As) descends he will also kill the pig:

The Prophet (Sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said: "(I swear) By him in Whose Hands my soul is, the son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizyah (a tax taken from the non-Muslims who are in the protection of the Muslim government).” [Al-Bukhaari, Muslim]

:wa:

What has killing a pig got to do with keeping pigs? Surely there must be a context behind this verse.

Sheikh Mufti Ebrahim Desai says regarding keeping animals such as pigs:

To keep harmful animals or animals deemed impure in the Shariah eg. pigs ,
as pets would not be permissible. Other animals eg: cats, sheep, goats,
birds, fish etc. are permissible to keep as pets.

Evidence?

 

[GuestFellow]

Yup leather shoes and belts are't always bovine in origin...

Salaam,

I think some parts of car seats are made of leather.

 

[جوري]

Salaam,

I think some parts of car seats are made of leather.

Yup very few designers & manufacturers mention which animal their goods came from unfortunately..

 

[Alpha Dude]

I hate pigs outside of religion just really can't stand them or parrots or monkeys I can't imagine anyone would want to live with such a vile creature..

What's wrong with monkeys and parrots? They're cool. :skeleton:

 

[GuestFellow]

What's wrong with monkeys and parrots? They're cool.
:skeleton:

Salaam,

I have two cockatiels. The most curious creatures on the planet.

 

[Alpha Dude]

Salaam,

The most curious creatures on the planet.

Wa alaykum salam,

If that was the case, why is the phrase curiosity killed the cat and not curiosity killed the cockatiel.

 

[جوري]

eeew thats gross, so is it best not to buy leather things?

Sry I just saw your post I am kind of blind..
I would ask most of them will tell you if you ask... I'd avoid things that I am suspicious of although there was a hadith where the prophet told one of the companions that he made the water impure with his question when water was dumped on him on the way to make prayers (I can't source it) but nonetheless there's also the hadith that states and this one I can source:
Abû `Abd Allah al-Nu`mân b. Bashîr relates that he heard Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) say: “That which is lawful is clear and that which is unlawful is clear. Between the two are doubtful matters that few people have knowledge about. Whoever avoids these doubtful matters absolves himself of blame with respect to his religion and his honor. Whoever falls into doubtful things will fall into what is unlawful, just like the shepherd who grazes his flock too close to a private pasture is liable to have some of his flock stray into it. Every king has a private pasture, and Allah’s private pasture is what he has prohibited. Verily, in the body is a small piece of flesh that if it is healthy, the whole body is healthy and if it is sick, the whole body is sick. This small piece of flesh is the heart.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî and Sahîh Muslim]

and Allah swt knows best,

 

[Insaanah]

What has killing a pig got to do with keeping pigs? Surely there must be a context behind this verse.

Evidence?

We know that in the Qur'an, the flesh of swine is the only named animal's meat mentioned as being outright and completely haram, other than if one is forced by necessity.

We also know, that it's flesh is impure:

Sahih International
Say, "I do not find within that which was revealed to me [anything] forbidden to one who would eat it unless it be a dead animal or blood spilled out or the flesh of swine - for indeed, it is impure - or it be [that slaughtered in] disobedience, dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], then indeed, your Lord is Forgiving and Merciful." (6:145)

We also know that Islam encourages cleanliness, and that we are not allowed to keep things deemed Islamically impure in our homes.

Narrated Jabir bin `Abdullah: I heard Allah's Apostle :saws:, in the year of the Conquest of Mecca, saying, "Allah and His Apostle made illegal the trade of alcohol, dead animals, pigs and idols." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What about the fat of dead animals, for it was used for greasing the boats and the hides; and people use it for lights?" He said, "No, it is illegal." Allah's Apostle further said, "May Allah curse the Jews, for Allah made the fat (of animals) illegal for them, yet they melted the fat and sold it and ate its price." (Saheeh al-Bukhari, the book of sales and trade Vol. 3, Book 34, Hadith 438)

From this hadeeth, we can see that pigs are mentioned along with idols and alcohol. All of these things, even their trade is haram, that is how bad they are deemed to be.

So, it's completely forbidden by Allah in the divinely revealed scriptures, its flesh is impure, it's trade is forbidden, it's mentioned alongside alcohol and idols, Allah transformed some people into them as a curse, Isa alyhi assalaam will kill them, all of this gives us an idea of the pig's status in Islam. It's not necessary that you need a hadeeth that explicitly says "You cannot keep pigs as pets". Some rulings in Islam are derived from inference.

Please do ask a scholar for further evidence should you need it.

And Allah knows best in all matters, and may He forgive me if I said anything wrong.

 

[GuestFellow]

. It's not necessary that you need a hadeeth that explicitly says "You cannot keep pigs as pets". Some rulings in Islam are derived from inference.

:wa:

Exactly, which is why I raised the question in the first place. I'm aware that Muslims cannot keep dogs as pets, unless for a good reason, like for guarding purposes. As for keeping a pig, I'm not so sure. All what your post mentioned was you cannot pigs as materials, cannot trade with them, nor eat them. However, I'm certain your allowed to keep them under certain circumstances, like scientific research.

 

[Marina-Aisha]

r u allowed to touch it pork with gloves?
and r u allowed to touch pigs? like pet them? cos my daughter sometimes goes trips with her nursery and sometimes they go to farms r they allowed to touch the pigs?