And?
I initially wanted to reply to your question seriously, but it’s completely insignificant and misleading. So, my answer to you will be “And?”
Well, it would be nice, for a change , to make a thread regarding good things that good Muslim men do. The opposite to domestic violence and rape, that perhaps might be of benefit to the brothers insha'Allah, maybe i should do that.
This matter is not about “Muslim bashing”, but rather a group of Muslims who are accused of partaking in a hideous crime. You could see in both of the articles I have posted, and your latest article that these Muslims are behaving in a manner that is un-Islamic and uncultured. The magnitude of the issue becomes more disturbing when we have groups, and not individuals committing crimes that disturb the social cohesion and representation of society
Agree
Individuals such as yourself and Jedi are more concerned about the reporting method of the crime and not the enormity of these crimes.
I disagree because i did talk about the enormity of the crimes these men committed, maybe you missed that part Allahu'Alam, but here it is again :
''What these men did is beyond disgusting,''
They are Muslims, that is a fact, whether their behavior is associated with Islam or the Muslim community depends on how harshly and openly we (Muslims) condemn them. Their behavior is not limited to or restricted to what you refer to as the “western way of life”.
Regarding the specific aforementioned cases, if Muslim men drank Alcohol provided alcohol, smoked weed and sold weed and Muslim women partied like the Muslim girl gang...what way of life is that?
If one does not live by Islam, I'm afraid ones' behavior is restricted to ''those who make their Desires their LORD'' [25:43] and let me tell you...Some Muslims can take their desires as their lord, it just means they do not know anything about Islam, they're just Muslim by name.
Taking desires as lord is the epitome of the western way of living.
Such behaviors also occur in Muslim countries and it’s because of the “let’s keep everything bad Muslims do quiet” mentality that fosters certain behaviors to remain an open secret in most Muslim societies.
Its not always about ''lets keep everything bad muslims do quiet'' What system do they use in these 'muslim countries' ?, for example you posted ''Row over Afghan wife-starving law''
What kind of law is that? we can clearly see that its not always about sins people commit secretly that people try to sweep under the carpet but the system in use, itself, is fundamentally flawed.
It encourages abuse and let's people get away with crimes that they shouldn't have.
We are ruled by other than Allahs law, our leaders are despots, our people follow culture more than Islam and so on and that is the root cause of our problems.
Besides sharing the same faith with them, I do not associate myself with any of the Muslims involved in these crimes. I can criticize their behavior without ever doubting Islam.
Masha'Allah
Are you suggesting that we ignore the crimes Muslims commit because such “articles will cast doubts in our minds about Islam”?
That's a categoric no, There is nothing wrong with reading about crimes Muslims commit, its good to know of how the muslim ummah is shaping up and what needs to be done to rectify issues within our society, but what I'm suggesting is to not read sensationalist articles that mix truth with falsehood and blow things out of proportion, that's all I'm saying.
I was just a tad concerned because i saw a couple of threads you made about wife abuse and rape and then i saw the ''Wifehood and Motherhood are Not the Only Ways to Paradise'' thread and thought to myself maybe doubt is creeping in.
Maybe i over-analysed things Allahu'Alam.
;D;D;D;D;D;D;D. Please, carry on and let your thoughts creep away.