O ummah, for how much longer?

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I don't think the word fair can be used anywhere in this situation brother..
that is just my opinion..
 
cashew, it's not their fault for not losing morale and doing what they can,
and btw, they are beyond ur definition of sympathy, they know the world benefits them nothing without Allah and that Allah can stir up the world as He sees fit,
Allah sent them a public message and they received it, here's what Allah told them:
38. Those who hearken
To their Lord, and establish
Regular prayer; who (conduct)
Their affairs by mutual
Consultation;
Who spend out of what
We bestow on them
For Sustenance;

39. And those who, when
An oppressive wrong is inflicted
On them, (are not cowed
But) help and defend themselves.

40. The recompense for an injury
Is an injury equal thereto
(In degree): but if a person
Forgives and makes reconciliation,
His reward is due
From God: for (God)
Loveth not those who
Do wrong.

41. But indeed if any do help
And defend themselves
After a wrong (done)
To them, against such
There is no cause
Of blame.

42. The blame is only
Against those who oppress
Men with wrong-doing
And insolently transgress
Beyond bounds through the land,
Defying right and justice:
For such there will be
A Penalty grievous.
43. But indeed if any
Show patience and forgive,
That would truly be
An exercise of courageous will
And resolution in the conduct
Of affairs.


Quran Chapter 42


O Allah, the turner of hearts, make our hearts steadfast on your religion.
 
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Roasted cashews, can't believe you said that as a muslim, palestinians deserve every right to fire thousands of rockets into israel because those zionists are oppressing them and attacking them for more then 60 years. They deserve to kill those zionists. not every jew should be killed, but their soldiers and supporters should be. And of course satanyahoo.

Be honest roasted cashews and stop watching crusaders media and their puppets. You are only following dajjal's lies.

Israel is there for one reason- to await the false messiah, and to destroy us. Ofcourse they wont succeed but fights will be bloody.
 
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Jedi_Mindset said:
Roasted cashews, can't believe you said that as a muslim, palestinians deserve every right to fire thousands of rockets into israel because those zionists are oppressing them and attacking them for more then 60 years. They deserve to kill those zionists. not every jew should be killed, but their soldiers and supporters should be. And of course satanyahoo.
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You do realize these rockets hardly target soldiers but instead civilians.. Children and women and older men: - what I am saying is they are indiscriminate in their targets. PLS DO TARGET the soldiers but spare the kids. If not, what is the difference between you and them.
 
Roasted Cashew said:
You do realize these rockets hardly target soldiers but instead civilians.. Children and women and older men: - what I am saying is they are indiscriminate in their targets. PLS DO TARGET the soldiers but spare the kids. If not, what is the difference between you and them.
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There is alot of propaganda going on, and israeli jumps very often that these rockets killed civilians. Just like the USA lies about the taliban attacks on military bases in which they claim only civilians died. How can there be civilians at very distant army bases in the mountains? lol. Look the problem is that even israel settlers shoot and target palestinians and burn olive trees. They are no different from the IDF. Hamas should thinking about minimize the civilian casualties, but there are alot of lies going on about that. The targeting of civilians by Hamas is often rare. And it isn't done on purpose.
 
Jedi_Mindset said:
The targeting of civilians by Hamas is often rare. And it isn't done on purpose.
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You do realize that Israel also says that they don't target civilians and only militants. These militants are the ones who hide in civilian locations. And they say they don't target civilians on purpose either. I believe Hamas as much as I believe the IDF.
 
Roasted Cashew said:
You do realize that Israel also says that they don't target civilians and only militants. These militants are the ones who hide in civilian locations. And they say they don't target civilians on purpose either. I believe Hamas as much as I believe the IDF.
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Because Hamas mujahids are ordinary civilians in normal houses, who have families. What could they do when israel drops 3000 pounds JDAMS on their neighbourhood? Killing everyone in and around it? Israel attacked UN schools on purpose, no militants were hiding there. Are you suggesting that hamas needs to make concrete bunkers to hide in? (Which they can't btw the poverty in gaza is rising non-stop, lack of money)
 
The truth is, the situation always gets worse, and keeps getting worse until it hits a crescendo break-point. And right when everyone gives up - Allah the Most Merciful Benefactor, sends HIS help.

Just look at our history. It's all there, it repeats itself. We're so stupid as a species, that Allah has made it all too clear for us. Still, we forget. Such is our nature.

No point getting all strung up about it now. Let's just either watch as it plays out, and pray for the ones who are in hardship... or keep silent on the matter. No point getting angry at eachother, we're on the same side :)

Scimi
 
roasted cashews is making his allegiances clear as he has constantly done.
and the only reason i ever bother to respond to his posts is to clear any misconceptions he may cause.
God knows his heart, not me, but i sure will not stop at clearing the misconceptions he creates.

You see those in whose hearts is a disease - how eagerly they run about amongst them,
saying: "We do fear lest disaster befalls us."
Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will.
Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts.

Dhaalikal Kitaab: 5:52
 
lol another misconception from roasting cashews to clear,
a mujahid is one who strives,
that could mean someone who works to feed his children so they grow to be strong guided Muslims,
someone who saves lives by operating on them,
or someone who fights to protect his faith.
and many other things,
research the term b4 u open ur trap.

anyway, it isnt lawful for them to target Mujahids because they are the illegal invaders and instigators of agression, not the Mujahids.
Just like it wasn't lawful for them to target the people in Iraq, including those who stood up to thwart an illegal invasion.
it's not a mirror u know?


btw, obama and the queen are actively plotting to attack syria, and are using manufactured and instigated sectarian violence to gain public opinion, they have murdered many Muslims in iraq under the guise of removing their ex-puppet saddam, and are now attempting to use that deviant assad as their new excuse.
we must be aware of who the real aggressors are in this battle between truth and falsehood. and who seeks to gain from unjustified bloodshed and violence.
they have shown that they are treacherous and stand on falsehood, and only move forward (backward) through deceit and falsehood.
May Allah wake the Ummah up, and cause the people of the planet to come out of their drunken stupour and see the truth.
 
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The Israelis show their soldiers footage of Israeli children dying thanks to Palestinian rockets and bombs and that boils their blood. Palestinians need to understand that either you are the victim or the aggressor. If you choose to be someone in between these two, then you are not helping your cause and you are making it difficult for the world to openly support your cause.
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Apologies for the harsh tone i'm about to use but this has to be the most pathetic piece of garbage ive ever read on this forum. How many fatalities have there been from these rocket attacks? 1, 2? 3 at a push? Compare that to the amount of Palestinians killed since the creation of the satanic Israeli state, thousands upon thousands systematically killed and thousands made refugees, Now tell me, who's the victim and who's the aggressor?

If you want to be seen as the victim, then stop the rockets and attacks. Give the world NOTHING to point back at you. And if you think, you can not sit silent, the go all out. Finish it once and for all. Stop with this random attacks which give you a bad name. And if you think, you can not sit silent, the go all out. Finish it once and for all
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What rocket attacks are you talking about? The only attacks im seeing are from the Israeli devil forces, bombing Gaza on a weekly basis.

If the Palestinians are firing homemade, harmless rockets into occupied Palestine, they're only doing so in retaliation to Israeli missile strikes which kill innocent civilians, for the Palestinians its their only means of resistance and without it the Zionists would have succeeded in driving them out completely a long time ago.

I don't think you understand the complexity of the situation as you've clearly been influenced by the crap you hear on Mainstream news channels, either that or its just plain ignorance.
[Long live the resistance, Palestine will be free one day InshAllah]
 
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Vision said:
Apologies for the harsh tone i'm about to use
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apology accepted.

Vision said:
How many fatalities have there been from these rocket attacks?
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28 maybe.


Vision said:
who's the victim
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the civilians on BOTH sides


Vision said:
who's the aggressor?
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IDF and Islamic militants whose rockets and suicide attacks killed innocent people.

Vision said:
What rocket attacks are you talking about?
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Qassams and Katyushas


Vision said:
they're only doing so in retaliation to Israeli missile strikes which kill innocent civilians
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two wrongs don't make a right. So you are saying, it's okay to target Israeli civilians because IDF targets Palestinian civilians?? So if I were to to kill someone's son. It would be perfectly legal for the father of that son to kill my son in retaliation instead of me??? I disagree. If I kill your son. You kill me. Not my son. Otherwise, you are no different than me.

Vision said:
Palestine will be free one day InshAllah
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InsyaAllah. What Palestinians need is a charismatic leader who can unite the different factions. A true diplomat and a true deal breaker. One has to be realistic. America and Israel are military powers. Rockets are not gonna win back Palestine anytime soon. A true good leader would have won it decades ago without firing a single rocket
 
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Roasted Cashew said:
it's okay to target Israeli civilians because IDF targets Palestinian civilians??
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Every Israeli that takes residence in Palestine through force is already making a Palestinian and his family refugees in their own homeland. Why shouldn't they be targeted? Furthermore EVERY ISRAELI is to enter the army(gals and guys) thus their army is conscript of the people leaving none of them the innocent title of civilians. They're all fair game.. and if I were a Palestinian I'd have only two things to look forward to either nasr or shahada but I wouldn't accept the situation as is. And I don't think there's any semblance of a normal life there for them to try to adhere to the principles that you think are good or that Israel enforces but exempts itself from..

I must ask you this, are you Muslim? Because there's only two places to go now, you either are or you aren't.. I'd hate for you to be persecuted for a religion that is so under the microscope for nothing or something when the views you profess are so obviously unipolar but from the the wrong end of the spectrum..

Good luck with that..

best,
 
lol at "bomb the peanut factories"


heres a second call:

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لميس;1521586 said:
their army is conscript of the people leaving none of them the innocent title of civilians. They're all fair game..
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What abt the little kids. They are fair game as well? It doesn't matter if they all are required to undergo military training. What matters is who is holding guns and shooting. Those are the IDF's. They are your targets. Spare the civilians please.

لميس;1521586 said:
I must ask you this, are you Muslim?
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YES, I am; but not a proud one, instead, a thankful one.

لميس;1521586 said:
the views you profess
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I know my views do not go well with everyone. So much more being a Muslim. But my views are not meant to please anyone, not even myself. Sometimes, we need to look at things from the "OTHER" perspective rather than just "OURS" so that our conclusions are not biased. Therefore, Muslims and non-Muslims who only look at things from their perspectives alone abhor my views.
 

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