Locals turn against Taliban in eastern Afghanistan

[جوري]

The purpose was to expose that they do sometimes transgress in their battle for resistance. One can not just hold the banner of resistance and then keep on doing whatever he likes. They have to be accountable for their actions and we HAVE to hold them accountable. Taliban has got so many factions that it is hard to tell which one is still pure in the fight and which will do anything for political and personal gains under the banner of Islamic resistance.

:lol: & you know this because you read an article on the christian science monitor?
those Christians?

I had another video of similar --- indoctrinating little children in classrooms. And you're so concerned what the Taliban are doing? Well frankly the taliban can do whatever in their country, it is their backyard and it isn't up to the Christians science monitor to protest it or you for that matter. You're not besieged by drones and your woman and children torched in the night) and your father pissed on and posed for pictures.

I don't write any of these articles...so I don't care. I do write the comments but I still don't care.

You write in agreement and pleased with content rather than outrage!

Considering, I am the newbie here, why was it hard for you to comprehend what was I going for?

What are you going for considering the two positive likes you received on here are from Non Muslims?

 

[جوري]

^^From experience, it doesn't matter if there is evidence from Afghani people themselves posted on this board, about the actions of the Taliban, it still won't be believed...

I've posted webistes showing videos, stories, photographs of Taliban crimes. Websites of charities established by men and women who fled Afghanistan, but members dismissed the charities people and websites claiming they had been influenced by the west and the women were just feminists.

I've said this a billion times but I'll say it again: a member of this forum had family that fled Afghanistan because of the Taliban and members refused to pay him attention either. And yet members also refused to judge the Taliban unless they heard of first hand experience- didn't that member's family have first hand experience? Yet because it wasn't the glorious stuff people wanted to hear of moral and just men gently guiding the Afghani people no one wanted to know.

I don't support the actions of the west in Afghanistan, but I certainly do not support the Taliban either.

Your comment speaks of your experience directly with Afghans, I am still waiting for that or that of afghans living there daily whom your surveyed. Not some screen name on a forum!
until you deliver on that I suggest you not waste my time!

best,

 

[جوري]

More from our christian friends at an afghan school near you

please feel free to watch the entire 'war on Islam'- Don't be silly! series..

best,

 

[Muhammad]

Please try to avoid turning this thread into personal attacks on each other. This is not the way Muslims should be behaving. I have deleted a bunch of posts and if the thread continues in the same way then it will have to be closed.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Please try to avoid turning this thread into personal attacks on each other. This is not the way Muslims should be behaving. I have deleted a bunch of posts and if the thread continues in the same way then it will have to be closed.

Sorry brother. Never is it my attention to personally attack anyone. Will keep it in mind. Peace.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

you know this because you read an article on the christian science monitor?

Another sis has shared few other links..u might wanna check them out...

And you're so concerned what the Taliban are doing?

YES. The enemy is enemy and it would do what it needs to do. Insurgents are OURS. We need to make sure they do not transgress in their resistance. I can post videos here of how the Taliban indoctrinate and brainwash little children with hatred and prejudices and tell them how to do suicide bombings but I won't.

What are you going for considering the two positive likes you received on here are from Non Muslims?

Still can't seem to find these likes...

 

[جوري]

are you re posting that which was deleted? I have already replied to the above and that was removed. You can't be a brute & a sycophant in the same breath. It is unbecoming!

 

[Abz2000]

a member of this forum had family that fled Afghanistan because of the Taliban and members refused to pay him attention either.

yup, no better way to get a visa, i knew this guy who went to the local newspaper office and paid them to make him a backdated non-existent news report about himself lol.

And yet members also refused to judge the Taliban unless they heard of first hand experience-

do you blame anyone???
have u eva heard of a boy who cried "wolf"???

O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news,
ascertain the truth,
lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done.
Quran 49:6

btw, did u know that "there was no doubt that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction"?

over a million of our brothers and sisters dead.

roasted cashew reminds me of this verse:

60 . Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time:
61 . They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy).
62 . (Such was) the practice (approved) of Allah among those who lived aforetime:
No change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of Allah.
Quran 33:60-62

 

[Roasted Cashew]

More from our christian friends at an afghan school near you

At least they are not telling them to blow themselves up. Of course I am outraged that they are proselytizing in our schools but still better then blowing themselves up and taking lives of other innocent people. Btw, Muslims have proselytized a lot in western countries without any hindrance whatsoever. Isn't this the failure on the part of Taliban from failing to protect children from being proselytized. Instead of shutting down entire schools, why not expel those teachers who do proselytize.

 

[Abz2000]

maybe ur unaware that the us government pays reporters to hand in fake news reports, and that a lot of the news reports in iraq and afghanistan are written by pr firms in the U.S.

go cast out the mote in ur own eye cashew.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

I have already replied to the above and that was removed.

Oh, really! How would I know if it was removed?

It is unbecoming!

Had I replied to it, and only your response got deleted, then maybe...

 

[جوري]

At least they are not telling them to blow themselves up.

What is with these delusions of grandiosity you have. You think the Taliban are sitting on IB like you being idle, and taking your empty words or the words of any other inane comments made by you or the 'experienced' girl or her buddy with other than a grain of salt?

Of course I am outraged that they are proselytizing in our schools but still better then blowing themselves up and taking lives of other innocent people.

Americans do it all the time with their drones and so does NATO or is 'collateral damage' more acceptable to you? Suicide bombers is a Christian concept in fact!

Btw, Muslims have proselytized a lot in western countries without any hindrance whatsoever.

I don't see any Muslims doing any proselyting in western countries, heck just attending a mosque can land you on the FBI most wanted. Secondly they wouldn't target children as Islam is the religion of reason not man worshiping nonsense which is hammered in to be parroted as nothing more than vacuous words uttered.

Isn't this the failure on the part of Taliban from failing to protect children from being proselytized. Instead of shutting down entire schools, why not expel those teachers who do proselytize.

Go tell them that. Go tell them the Christian science monitor and other Christian evangelizing sources in the west says you dig honor killing, child brides, suicide bombs and shutting down schools, why don't you stop doing that and expel those U.S army men with their Pushtu bibles and kick those mindless twits brainwashing your girls instead. I'd be curious what they have to say. Take the experienced girl with you so she can put something substantial on her resume.

best

 

[Roasted Cashew]

roasted cashew reminds me of this verse:

Shame on how you woefully use Qur'anic verses here and there as it suits your agenda.

 

[جوري]

Shame on how you woefully use Qur'anic verses here and there as it suits your agenda.

what is his agenda? better yet, what is yours?

 

[Roasted Cashew]

what is his agenda?

to paint me as a "Hypocrite" as he sees me.

what is yours?

How many times do I have to repeat. To quantify our own(Muslims) shortcomings, mistakes, sins and evils before pointing fingers at others(westerners).

 

[جوري]

to paint me as a "Hypocrite" as he sees me.

The verse is meant so that we verify news that is leveled against Muslims by fasiqs.. you have already stated that you didn't write the article. But you seem to like it.. so why do you think a few people here wish to 'paint' you as something.. How would you like those articles you post and your subsequent comments on them to be perceived exactly?

How many times do I have to repeat. To quantify our own(Muslims) shortcomings, mistakes, sins and evils before pointing fingers at others(westerners).

We already know our shortcomings but the 'westerners' are actively there in Muslim lands doing their thing so why can't we point the finger? Is it impolite to do it virtually?

 

[Roasted Cashew]

The verse is meant so that we verify news that is leveled against Muslims by fasiqs

With that verse he was addressing LauraS.

He dedicated the following verse for me and I quote:

60 . Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time:
61 . They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy).
62 . (Such was) the practice (approved) of Allah among those who lived aforetime:
No change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of Allah.
Quran 33:60-62

I think this was uncalled for.

How would you like those articles you post and your subsequent comments on them to be perceived exactly?

That these are not meant to malign any pure and rightful resistance of the enemy or is it meant to tarnish the good name of honourable Muslims. It is meant to highlight the bad apples among us, the evil-doers among us, the transgressors among us, etc. And just like we passionately criticize the westerners, we need to criticize our own too who do wrong.

We should not think that Muslims can do no wrong. We should not live in a mind-state where the whole world is conspiring against us. America is imperialistic, greedy, selfish and invaded Iraq on totally dubious pretext but Uncle Sam is not anti-Islam as some Muslims like to paint the picture. It is after us because of our resources, it's shady interests in the region because of it's geographical location which is near China and Russia but not because of our religion. Not that this makes America any better, yet it's good to know your enemies well.

 

[جوري]

With that verse he was addressing LauraS.

An appropriate verse for the both of you. Indeed..

He dedicated the following verse for me and I quote:

Indeed many of your actions can be construed as seditious, inflammatory and plain wrong. I don't see how this was misused either?

I think this was uncalled for.

I don't.

That these are not meant to malign any pure and rightful resistance of the enemy or is it meant to tarnish the good name of honourable Muslims. It is meant to highlight the bad apples among us, the evil-doers among us, the transgressors among us, etc. And just like we passionately criticize the westerners, we need to criticize our own too who do wrong.

Who do you consider a good Muslim?

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An-Nisa (The Women) [4:95] [RECITE]

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La yastawee alqaAAidoona mina almumineena ghayru olee alddarari waalmujahidoona fee sabeeli Allahi biamwalihim waanfusihim faddala Allahu almujahideena biamwalihim waanfusihim AAala alqaAAideena darajatan wakullan waAAada Allahu alhusna wafaddala Allahu almujahideena AAala alqaAAideena ajran AAatheeman​

4:95 Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-
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We should not think that Muslims can do no wrong. We should not live in a mind-state where the whole world is conspiring against us. America is imperialistic, greedy, selfish and invaded Iraq on totally dubious pretext but Uncle Sam is not anti-Islam as some Muslims like to paint the picture. It is after us because of our resources, it's shady interests in the region because of it's geographical location which is near China and Russia but not because of our religion. Not that this makes America any better, yet it's good to know your enemies well.

As stated if you're sitting at home doing nothing, then you are in no position to judge those whoa re doing something. Also you're too immature as is apparent to understand the geopolitical and socioeconomic conditions of the region or western interests which aren't a modern thing.. it goes way back.. maybe they're using the taliban as an excuse now but as stated in my prior post what was the interest before? Since the inception of Islam the sons of devils haven't quit and you're here quoting us questionable articles so we can jump on the mainstream bandwagon? Are you for real? You haven't a strategist cell left in your body?
You are welcome to your beliefs and obviously they're the otherwise popular beliefs and a product of the society you live in but you shouldn't begrudge or question those that mock the articles and the subsequent comments made.. Frankly if you're putting yourself out there then be prepared for what comes your way...

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[Roasted Cashew]

As stated if you're sitting at home doing nothing, then you are in no position to judge those whoa re doing something.

The verse doesn't say that I am in no position to judge them. It's just that we are not on the same turf. They are a grade higher than I am. Where does it say that those who are a grade higher than me are not accountable for their actions? And I clearly have said, I respect and have great awe for those who are pure and rightful in their resistant and do not trangress.

you're too immature

You are too paranoid.

You are welcome to your beliefs and obviously they're the otherwise popular beliefs

you are welcome to your beliefs as they are otherwise very popular and mainstream among most Muslims

product of the society you live in

so are yours...

you shouldn't begrudge or question those that mock the articles and the subsequent comments made

you begrudge and question me...why can't I question you?

Frankly if you're putting yourself out there then be prepared for what comes your way

have I shown any signs of wailing?

 

[جوري]

The verse doesn't say that I am in no position to judge them. It's just that we are not on the same turf. They are a grade higher than I am. Where does it say that those who are in grade higher than me are not accountable for their actions? And I clearly have said, I respect and have great awe for those who are pure and rightful in their resistant and do not trangress.

You're already starting from a disadvantage no? You're not par with them nor can you actually substantiate your claims against them.

You are too paranoid.

Oh in what way?

you are welcome to your beliefs as they are otherwise very popular and mainstream among most Muslims

Both sides can't be right now can they?

so are yours...

in what way, I was born and raised in the west so your statement is nothing more than ping pong with no substance..

you begrudge and question me...why can't I question you?

You're not very good at it that's why.

have I shown any signs of wailing?

roasting more like ..

best,