what are Buddhists doing to the Muslims of Myanmar?

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam

its so sad that neighoring country Bangladesh is not opening the boarder for these tortured Muslims. No more Ansars today in the Ummah ?

Bangladesh sends back boatloads of Rohingya Muslims fleeing Myanmar violence

A Rohingya Muslim family who fled Myanmar to Bangladesh to escape religious violence sits at a shelter provided by local people in Taknaf, Bangladesh, Tuesday, June 12, 2012. Bangladesh on Tuesday turned away three boats carrying 1,000 Rohingya Muslims fleeing violence in neighboring Myanmar, bringing to 1,500 the number of refugees blocked in recent days, officials said. (Anurup Titu/AP) + Bangladesh sends back boatloads of Rohingya Muslims fleeing Myanmar violence

 

[جوري]

They just have the audacity to call Muslims corrupt and love the kill.. When they do nothing all over but kill Muslims and somehow still come out the victims.

 

[Muslim Woman]

I wonder if Nobel Peace winner Sui ki is doing anything to stop the violence agianst Muslims or she is busy in travelling ?


[h=1]Suu Kyi heads to Europe to accept Nobel, other honors[/h]By Elizabeth Yuan, CNN

 

[جوري]

Nobel Prize winners are nothing but Zionists or pro Zionists.. it is a meaningless prize put forth by a man who brought destruction upon the world so it is only fitting who it i selectively handed it out to.

 

[GuestFellow]

They just have the audacity to call Muslims corrupt and love the kill.. When they do nothing all over but kill Muslims and somehow still come out the victims.

Salaam,

Sounds like Israel.

 

[جوري]

Salaam,

Sounds like Israel.

It is upsetting the amount of crap out there against Muslims, just now on youtube vile ignorant comments, luckily I have a bit more freedom to dish it like I want to out there in a way I can't do here. But the hatred, violence and animosity not to mention lies is a war art form all its own.
Makes it very difficult for me to trust or like any kaffirs, I am starting to grow suspicious of my non-Muslim friends even.

 

[Predator]

So much for the so called "non-violent" spirit of buddhism

 

[جوري]

Hypocrites the world over. Let them show their true identity, but let's counter their labels in kind. There's nothing wrong with self-defense!

 

[glo]

Are you not doing in this thread what you so dislike others doing of your own religion? :hmm:

Using the bad deeds of some to judge and condemn an entire group of people?
If you (and rightly so) criticise people, public opinions and the media to speak badly about all Muslims because of the deeds of some Muslims, why do the same with Buddhists?

Many (probably most) Buddhists are peace-loving and kind, just as many (probably most) Muslims are.
Can we agree that not all Buddhists are hypocrites, corrupt and violent?

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

And we have come to a time now where muslims even accept secular regimes, especially in SE asia, pakistan, turkey and such. Anyone who doesn't think dajjal is loose now has a blind vision. He is trying utter best to turn muslims away from islam, or to get them believe in nationalism and secularism.

''Novus ordo seclorum'' a new secular world order. Christianity got corrupted and has pagan roots, real jews are on the extinct, the only obstacle is islam, because islam is the truth and by studying it, you will have a different mindset, a mindset they dont like: A free mind.

The masons who think that ''lucifer'' is God, are behind this and preparing for his arrival but they're decieved that dajjal will be the messiah and that lucifer is God while infact lucifer is Iblis.

And what happens when they take control of the banking system and governments? (Rothchild and such other families) when they take over the banking system they control everything. Governments, federal reserves, policies, and even you are in their hands. Your birth certificate is worth billions, you are a slave. meanwhile USA is keeping every country under its control by interests/riba and in such a way that the country will be in debt, forever.

New world order? Yes i think so, everyone who misbehaves gets attacked. For what? what they claim to be holy israel.

Excuse me for going offtopic but just want to point out the bigger picture, why every governments spews hate against islam.

 

[Muhaba]

My humble opinion is that Muslims should perfect their religion before they preach.. what do you think? If we know our religion half of the way, and preach is a quarter of the way and they convert one eight of the way, how does that work exactly? They become a liability not something to be happy about-- we shouldn't really be after numbers quantity doesn't matter if the quality sucks..

well, i believe there's a hadith that if you know one ayah you should preach it.

of course it's also important for muslims to learn their religion, which would mean that the learned would first preach to muslims. the learned scholars should be preaching to the ignorant muslims and family members should be preaching to each other.

muslims are truly lacking in this field. They neither preach to each other nor do they preach to nonmuslims.

in one country i know, there are a lot of nonmuslims, but the muslims aren't actively preaching to them. they have centers where nonmuslims can go and they have made booklets that the nonmuslims can read to get information, but putting those booklets in the mosque won't help a lot. It's not a place where nonmuslims go to anyway. it would be better if muslims activly went and gave them out to their neighbors, friends, colleagues, etc.

If the muslims were told in the mosque to take those booklets and give them to their nonmuslim acquaintances, it would be different. so i believe that the muslims are not doing enough.

 

[Muhaba]

That's not true. Muslims preach in Europe, North America, and Australia and how are they usually seen by the ignorant? "OH MY GAWD, TERRORISTS/SUICIDE BOMBERS."

Yes, there are some muslims that preach but it's not enough. everyone should be preaching. EVERYONE.

if muslims realized their responsibility to preach, then they might even get some knowledge, learn their religion. but now, most of the muslims are just sitting back, leaving the job to a few. it's not enough and the results are this.

 

[جوري]

well, i believe there's a hadith that if you know one ayah you should preach it.

That is something many of us do. I often quote from the Quran & Sunnah, because I don't think there's anything on earth more irresistible than Islam, but I don't do it with the desire to convert people. To be honest in my entire life I think there were only two people that I have wished to be Muslim and it is because they already had very Islamic character. As you know 'khyrokoum fi aljahilya khyrokoum fi al'Islam'.. I am mostly disgusted by the culture and behavior of those I encounter as well their life style choices, I think they would do Islam a great disservice. Of course in the end it comes down to:

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Innaka la tahdee man ahbabta walakinna Allaha yahdee man yashao wahuwa aAAlamu bialmuhtadeena​

28:56 It is true thou wilt not be able to guide every one, whom thou lovest; but Allah guides those whom He will and He knows best those who receive guidance.

I think of this verse often in relation to the two people I care about.. and I think I have done all I can from providing books, and having deep philosophical debates etc.. It is a solo journey ultimately.
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[Muhaba]

Alhamdullillah that you are trying and so are many of our brothers and sisters on this site. i hope that they do it in other places just as they discuss and debate here. I do realize that many of the ones on this site fulfill this duty somewhat. whether we are doing as much as we should Allah knows best.

but there are many muslims in the world and too many of them are not doing it. and of course many of them don't even know their own religion. so it is the job of those who do know to not only preach to nonmuslims but also to muslims.

It can be done through various ways: nonmuslims can be given just an introduction to the Islam, like a few verses about tawheed, like the transaltion of Surah Al-Ikhlas, or a few verses about Maryam (AS) and Prophet Jesus (AS). If the preacher isn't in position to answer someone's questions, they can refer them to a website or a scholar.

Muslims can be given some stuff based on how much they practice islam, llike some information about hijab, etc. One thing that even Muslims, especially those in Asia, need to know about is Tawheed. Many ppl in Bangladesh, India, etc practice things that amount to shirk, so the learned muslims have to educate them. I heard that in Malaysia (or was it indonesia?) a lot of ppl used to go to shrines, but the scholars there actively struggled to inform them that asking dua from shrines is shirk (polytheism) so they stopped. This should be done in other places too so that muslims refrain from this horrible sin. Shirk nullifies eman and is the one sin that Allah will not forgive if a person dies with the faith of shirk. so it's extremely necessary that learned muslims educate ignorant muslims about this.

There are islamic centers that provide booklets which you can give out. If a nonmuslim then needs more information, they can get it directly from that center. some islamic centers make booklets for both muslims and nonmuslims.

after that, it is everyone's own responsibility to think with an open mind and get more information etc. Our job is only preaching.

 

[جوري]

in fact just recently I sent books to someone-- a friend of my sis at work who is gettig married & trying to find a religion for the sake of her future kids, although she is one of those sarcastic ones, I provided my sis with books and stuff to give her. Then some other woman at her work whenever she sees my sis goes 'Jesus' lololol.. Freaking nutters really. My sis was like are Christians against reading books and comparing notes? Then she demanded the books back but the issue resolves with the lady telling if you really want it back I'll give it back but I'd like to read it first.
I don't personally push unless a person shows interest. I think just by carrying out the way we do, some folks might and do take interest and ask questions. The majority of the people are as described in the Quran though:

Alam yani lillatheena amanoo an takhshaAAa quloobuhum lithikri Allahi wama nazala mina alhaqqi wala yakoonoo kaallatheena ootoo alkitaba min qablu fatala AAalayhimu alamadu faqasat quloobuhum wakatheerun minhum fasiqoona​

57:16 Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors.
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So yes if they show interest, I take interest and meet them all the way.. in other ways we can live by example, but me as a person I decided long ago that my intention is to learn and teach it to those who have already made up their mind but are ignorant or confused and I don't see anything wrong with that. Some other people learn to be sort of like Evangelists, but I think that, it is a superficial level of knowledge and I honestly think we should collectively be looking to have quality Muslims not quantity Muslims.. Sometimes even just listening to the common folks being interviewed on the streets of Cairo etc. the ignorance they spew against the religion is astounding I think they must be paid or are Christians or something because it makes no sense for someone to be that stupid of their religion especially when living in a land where there's no persecution and every opportunity to perfect the deen. It is disheartening...

 

[Muhaba]

it is not right for your sister to ask for the books back. let them have them. maybe someday they may be guided by the books. you never know. even at the time of the Prophet (SAW) there were ppl who took a long time to realize that islam was the truth but in the end they did. Khalid Bin WAleed (R) was a late believer but he was one of the best.

i also believe in quality not quantity, but it seems revert muslims are more quality muslims but children born to muslims of asia and the middle east are just increasing the quantity. they are mostly muslims by name. so that is something to think about. insha-Allah preaching will make more quality muslims. especially preaching to nonmuslims.

there are some christians/nonmuslims arabs living in muslim countries in the middle east, like Egypt that do convert but mostly christian arabs are not ignorant of islam. however nonmuslims in nonmuslim countries are ignorant of islam so need preaching more.

 

[جوري]

it is not right for your sister to ask for the books back. let them have them. maybe someday they may be guided by the books. you never know. even at the time of the Prophet (SAW) there were ppl who took a long time to realize that islam was the truth but in the end they did. Khalid Bin WAleed (R) was a late believer but he was one of the best.

i also believe in quality not quantity, but it seems revert muslims are more quality muslims but children born to muslims of asia and the middle east are just increasing the quantity. they are mostly muslims by name. so that is something to think about. insha-Allah preaching will make more quality muslims. especially preaching to nonmuslims.

there are some christians living in muslim countries that do convert but mostly these christians are not ignorant of islam. however nonmuslims in nonmuslim countries are ignorant of islam so need preaching more.

I think my sis was just thoroughly harassed by that Jesus woman day in and day out and didn't want to make Islam the brunt of their jokes. We gain nothing whether they become Muslim or not and I could feel her anger and hurt with the behavior of that other woman. The lady she gave the books too even though she is a sarcastic individual handled it with diplomacy you know at the end of the day I told her she has nothing to be ashamed of which is what I think what that Jesus woman after.. you know just to make Muslims feel bad and marginalized or whatever they're after to make themselves feel better over their personal convictions however wrong they maybe. We have to remember though that houda is from Allah swt and that most people are fasiqeen even Muslims. A Muslim might need a nudge or an awakening. I was one of those people al7mdullilah I came to in my own time and my own way.. At least there's a bud there that can be nurtured.. With others I don't know if the seed itself is rotten and I value Islam too much to cast pearls before swine.

It is funny sometimes when I think of Jesus PBUH how he escaped their persecution in Aswan in Egypt how most of his life was of poverty and fear. The same crappy people who tortured the prophets then are the same ones who torture the believers but under the pretense that they love or believe after they thoroughly transformed the religion to the paganism they've always loved and been familiar with.

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Qul la aqoolu lakum AAindee khazainu Allahi wala aAAlamu alghayba wala aqoolu lakum innee malakun in attabiAAu illa ma yooha ilayya qul hal yastawee alaAAma waalbaseeru afala tatafakkaroona​

6:50 Say: "I tell you not that with me are the treasures of Allah, nor do I know what is hidden, nor do I tell you I am an angel. I but follow what is revealed to me." Say: "can the blind be held equal to the seeing?" Will ye then consider not?


anyhow I feel we derailed from the original topic as is usually the case.. one thought brings another in the evolution of threads..
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[Muslim Woman]

O Allah , pl. help these oppressed Muslims.




Rohingya Muslims, trying to cross the Naf river into Bangladesh to escape sectarian violence in Myanmar, look on from an intercepted boat in Teknaf on Wednesday. — AFP photo

 

[Muhaba]

^I am saddened that Muslims refugees aren't allowed into bangladesh. THis is ALlah's land and all people should have a right to go on it. Not only that, but Bangladesh (once part of Pakistan) was made for Muslims, so it should give Muslims refuge.

I personally believe there should be no barriers to people and people should be able to go anywhere on earth that they want to. The kuffaar have made this system that didn't exist in the past. For millions of years man could go where he liked, though travelling was so difficult then. Now the kuffar made these barriers first and then opened the ways for themselves (kafir country passports don't need a visa to go to most countries in the world) but locked up the muslims in their countries.

i wish muslim countries too would get together and make a union, allowing muslims to go to any muslim country. So in times like these, muslims have a way out. the bangladeshi should realize that by stopping muslim refugees, it is helping another to harm them and so it is also respnsible.

muslim countries shouldn't worry that the refugees will be a financial burden on them as barakah comes from Allah. Allah will put barakah and even increase the produce/income of the helping country.

 

[جوري]

It is becuse Islam is bad and Muslims are the bad guy they deserve to be killed only!