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[BadOlPuttyTat]

sis, those are not really underpants. one can take pants off and walk around with "boxers." They still cover the satr. So the question of being an "undergarment" really depends on if something is worn on top of it.

They are called undergarments so I will treat them as such. Any person who sags their pants according to my standards is deemed inferior. Yes i used the word "inferior". Because that person obviously lacks intelligence to know you cant run nor walk like that nor does it look cool to but .1% of world population.

 

[GuestFellow]

They are called undergarments so I will treat them as such. Any person who sags their pants according to my standards is deemed inferior. Yes i used the word "inferior". Because that person obviously lacks intelligence to know you cant run nor walk like that nor does it look cool to but .1% of world population.

So you feel superior when someone wears clothes in a certain way that you don't like? :/

 

[Muhammad]

bro jeans were once unique to kaafirs, now they are a common way of dressing. Things which are once unique, become common occurrences if adopted by cultural spread and globalization.

It's true that jeans have become common, but at least they are not revealing, at least when a person chooses an appropriate size and fitting, or wears a long shirt etc. But akhee, if we acknowledge that something is from the kuffaar or has immoral origins and connotations, why would we be content with it spreading and becoming acceptable amongst Muslims? Should we not take pride in our own styles of dress, the kind which flow loosely over the awrah? The kind with which we beautify ourselves for when standing before Allaah (swt)?

 

[BadOlPuttyTat]

So you feel superior when someone wears clothes in a certain way that you don't like? :/

I never said superior. I just feel normal and people who expose their underwear are below normal.
Like when I use to go to school. Kids thought i was super smart and better then everyone else but I wasnt. I just read my books and finished my text instead of talking all day doing nothing.

Us "non-saggers" are normal and the "saggers" are below normal and the "suspender wearing people" are above normal

 

[GuestFellow]

I never said superior. I just feel normal and people who expose their underwear are below normal.
Like when I use to go to school. Kids thought i was super smart and better then everyone else but I wasnt. I just read my books and finished my text instead of talking all day doing nothing.

Us "non-saggers" are normal and the "saggers" are below normal and the "suspender wearing people" are above normal

Fair enough.

 

[Banu_Hashim]

Apart from wikipedia, is there any other source confirming this?

 

[Banu_Hashim]

It's true that jeans have become common, but at least they are not revealing, at least when a person chooses an appropriate size and fitting, or wears a long shirt etc. But akhee, if we acknowledge that something is from the kuffaar or has immoral origins and connotations, why would we be content with it spreading and becoming acceptable amongst Muslims? Should we not take pride in our own styles of dress, the kind which flow loosely over the awrah? The kind with which we beautify ourselves for when standing before Allaah (swt)?

We should take pride in our appearance definitely. I see nothing wrong adopting western clothing when it does not conflict with the rules of Islam in regards to dressing. What is "our" dress? There is no 'Muslim dress'. The thobe as it is today did not even exist at the time of the Prophet (saws). They only had two garments, one top, one bottom. I still don't understand why Arabs wear the shimaagh indoors nowadays, when it was traditionally used to protect from direct sun exposure and to protect the eyes from blowing dust/sand... but that's their culture, and I adopt it if I'm going to an Arab country. As the saying goes... "when in rome, do as the romans do...".

 

[Insaanah]

To be honest, the source doesn't make much difference. The point is decency.

I hope that we can all agree that as Muslims, decency, respectfulness and cleanliness in every aspect of our life is important, including in the way we dress. Deliberately hanging the trousers down, thus showing the underwear, is not decent nor a respectful way of dressing, even among many non-Muslims. No person (man or woman, Muslim or not) should have to see another Muslims underwear, neither should it be exposed, even if they keep their gaze lowered. Underwear is meant to be kept private, not paraded. Muslims are no exception to this.

 

[CosmicPathos]

knee-lenght Boxers/shorts are not really those V-shaped underwears, I have to say. They can be worn on their own.

wsalam

 

[Muezzin]

Yet you don't tend to see people walking around in nothing but a T-shirt and a pair of knee-length boxers.

By that same token, long johns cover everything. I wouldn't expect Muslims to walk around in nothing but those, as they are undergarments.

 

[Qurratul Ayn]

:wasalamex

Informative post, Sister Haafizah (your first post). Hmmm... ^o)

The point is decency.

Hear, hear.

And respect. Hardly anyone wants to see undergarments on other people regardless of being male or female, doesn't matter who you are or what your faith is.

And why in the world would someone want their undergarments on display anyway?! Yucky!

 

[TrueStranger]

It's interesting how someone can actually argue that a "Homosexual" cultural trend that started in "Prisons" to attract or sexually invite another man is somehow relevant when it comes to diversity within the Muslim community . Sodomy is a major sin, and to dress or adopt a dress-code initially meant to signify the act of sodomy is disgraceful! Just because down-low rappers adopted the style does not mean that a Muslim should as well.

 

[BadOlPuttyTat]

It's interesting how someone can actually argue that a "Homosexual" cultural trend that started in "Prisons" to attract or sexually invite another man is somehow relevant when it comes to diversity within the Muslim community . Sodomy is a major sin, and to dress or adopt a dress-code initially meant to signify the act of sodomy is disgraceful! Just because down-low rappers adopted the style does not mean that a Muslim should as well.

I would show you the video but it is kinda gross and goes into detail about sodomy. But the point is a lot of "old timers" in prison who were in before sagging became popular noticed it. So sagging was pop in prisoners first and it had a "purpose".
"Im here im queer! Lets party boys!" +o(
So ya get my drift?

 

[~ Sabr ~]

Has this thread not gone on long enough?

Thread closed?

 

[Imaduddin]

I hope everyone watches this video:

 

[Banu_Hashim]

:wasalamex

Informative post, Sister Haafizah (your first post). Hmmm... ^o)



Hear, hear.

And respect. Hardly anyone wants to see undergarments on other people regardless of being male or female, doesn't matter who you are or what your faith is.

And why in the world would someone want their undergarments on display anyway?! Yucky!

Exactly which is why it's called UNDER garments. Not meant to be seen.

 

[Muhammad]

We should take pride in our appearance definitely. I see nothing wrong adopting western clothing when it does not conflict with the rules of Islam in regards to dressing.

I agree, whilst some things are better than others, I'm not saying that the above is necessarily wrong. I was just raising the question of identity and the source of one's style of dress when the brother said that things once unique to the kuffaar end up becoming common occurrences anyway.

What is "our" dress? There is no 'Muslim dress'. The thobe as it is today did not even exist at the time of the Prophet (saws). They only had two garments, one top, one bottom. I still don't understand why Arabs wear the shimaagh indoors nowadays, when it was traditionally used to protect from direct sun exposure and to protect the eyes from blowing dust/sand... but that's their culture, and I adopt it if I'm going to an Arab country. As the saying goes... "when in rome, do as the romans do...".

It is true that there is no one particular way that Muslims dress. However, there are certain types of clothes that identify more clearly that someone is a Muslim, and/or which fulfil the criteria of covering the awrah in a more complete and beautiful way. This isn't restricted to Arab clothing - there are other predominantly Muslim cultures who adopt such styles of clothing.

 

[sofiap]

masha Allaah...both sides have been given the due right to express how they feel, we should leave it here and allow all to choose what they feel is correct...and somtimes we do need to talk things out,to allow to look at things from all angles...and for the admin who has allowed this..thankyou... lets make peace with it...to agree to disagree...we change our views and perceptions as we grow...insha Allaah,Allaah guides...

 

[Snowflake]

sis, those are not really underpants. one can take pants off and walk around with "boxers." They still cover the satr. So the question of being an "undergarment" really depends on if something is worn on top of it.

I know bro. But the reason people display their underpants is an immoral one. It's not the same as a poor man who has only one garment that is his under and over garment as well.

 

[ardianto]

I was a young guy who had high value in the women's eyes. But actually that was not because my physical appearance, but because my attitude toward people, and my way in dressing.

I was not a guy who dressed 'weird' only to follow mode, or to show people that I was different. I was always avoid style that show the muscle, or too bright, or 'different'. I was always avoid used accessories like necklace or chain. I just dressed modestly but beautiful. And just play in color, that usually soft.

My wife told me, my way in dressing was impress her, and affected her to open her heart for me. Some women told me too, they have positive image on me that built by my way in dressing. My way in dressing that modest but beautiful made me have image as a guy who have modest and beautiful character.

Imagine if I dressed weird, or became the victim of mode.

So, what we wear will determine the people's image on us.