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منوة الخيال;1527873 said:

& what am I to deduce from this sordid song of the south? ;D

You have no power anymore, admit it, atleast admit you shouldnt put such assumptions anymore. Because i can be pretty mean in targeting your nafs. This sordid song of the south is a list of the bilderberg group participants, if you dont know who these guys are be atleast quiet. They're a front of the upcoming New World order and are amongst the many groups. And your heroes from the SNC where there too.
 
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منوة الخيال;1527868 said:

Egypt isn't Iran, neither geographically nor religion wise. It is a soverign country with the rights to have dealings only with those countries it deems worthy and where it is mutually beneficial. I'd rather it do its business with a big country like Malaysia than the U.S... having relations with the U.S or Israel hasn't been benefcial to Egypt. It can also define the terms of its relations if it desires to have it with countries deemed less friendly. Right now, they're digging in the soukarry mines stealing gold, right now they're in west of Alexandria stealing oil, right now they're in the desert finding old war planes and uranium.. it is as if Egypt is sprawled out for every pimp to rape her.. I won't even touch upon the factories sold for pennies to the dollar by the former regime..
So the answer is even in extreme isolation I'd still say we'be better off.. for now anyway..

they will not have the choice , having relations whit big poles in the World like US , EUROPE , CHINA ...is unavoidable , they have to adopt an other terms and ways to talk to poeple ,

and you didnt answer my question about notification ^o)
 
You have no power anymore, admit it, atleast admit you shouldnt put such assumptions anymore. Because i can be pretty mean in targeting your nafs. This sordid song of the south is a list of the bilderberg group participants, if you dont know who these guys are be atleast quiet. They're a front of the upcoming New World order and are amongst the many groups. And your heroes from the SNC where there too.

jabs at my light saber I fear aren't going to cut.. the simplest answer is usually the most accurate. Rebels armed by Israel wouldn't have such a protracted course of war nor would the average death of civilians mount to a hundred daily..
I like conspiracy theories as much as the next guy but the weekend is over..

:w:
 
منوة الخيال;1527878 said:


jabs at my light saber I fear aren't going to cut.. the simplest answer is usually the most accurate. Rebels armed by Israel wouldn't have such a protracted course of war nor would the average death of civilians mount to a hundred daily..
I like conspiracy theories as much as the next guy but the weekend is over..

:w:

conspiracy theories arent facts, soon your gonna believe that 9/11 was done by bin laden. Get a grip please. I've showed oyu pics from rebels with american made weapons.

And now the next step watch this:


Righteous? i think so. So much for saudi paid ''scholars''. They have asked to kill women and children and they're gonna do it. You have certainly no idea of false flags, covert operations, smugglers and so forth.
 
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Russia: US arming Syrian rebels


http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/8411

Russia's foreign minister on Wednesday accused the United States of supplying Syrian rebels with weapons to fight against the government.
It is the latest tit-for-tat between Moscow and Washington over the Syrian crisis, coming a day after US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton accused Russia of sending attack helicopters to Syria.
"We are not violating any international law in performing these contracts," said Sergei Lavrov, in response to a question about Clinton's comments at a news conference during a visit to Iran.
Lavrov described as "patently untrue" US accusations it was aiding the Syrian government in its crackdown, maintaining Moscow's argument that its arms transfers to Syria are unrelated to the conflict there.
"They (the United States) are providing arms and weapons to the Syrian opposition that can be used in fighting against the Damascus government," he said on Iranian state television, speaking through an interpreter.

Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton
told Charlie Rose earlier in the week that the United States is working with the FSA and other opposition groups and attempting to turn them into a force capable of overthrowing the al-Assad regime.
We’re also working very hard to try to prop up and better organize the opposition. We’ve spent a lot of time on that. It’s still a work in progress,” she said.


BASICALLY, WHAT THE U.S IS DOING, IS TERRORISM ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN LAW.
AND WHAT RUSSIA IS DOING, IS LEGAL ACCORDING TO THE U.S AND RUSSIAN LAW.
WHICH IS WHY THE U.S REMAINS SILENT ON IT'S OWN ACTS.
it is however clear, that the US embarked on a plan to overthrow Syria over a decade ago, and cannot find any legal or moral justification other than through provocations and destabilization.

US and UK Government International Intervention Since 1945:

http://www.us-uk-interventions.org/biblios/biblio_syria.html

US will allocate $5m to finance Syria opposition
February 18, 2006


The United States will allocate $5 million to finance the Syrian opposition, the State Department said yesterday, two days after announcing a similar initiative for the Iranian opposition.

The State Department said in a statement that it will give the money “to accelerate the work of reformers in Syria.

The money would come from the department’s Middle East Partnership Initiative, it said.

The State Department announced on Wednesday that it would seek $75 million to step up efforts — through extra broadcasts and other activities — to influence democratic change in Iran.

Meanwhile, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States wants to strengthen its sanctions against Syria and is trying to convince other nations to follow suit.

“We intend to use the Syrian Accountability Act and use it to its fullest,” the top US diplomat told Congress, referring to a 2003 law that allows the US administration to impose sanctions against Syria. The law, which provides for a series of six diplomatic, economic and financial sanctions, was partially applied in May 2004 by President George W. Bush, but some sanctions have yet to be used.

“The Syrian Accountability Act is a very important tool,” Rice told the House of Representatives International Relations Committee.

“We’ve used a great deal of it,” she recalled.

http://dotandcalm.com/calm-archive/index/t-15689.html

it's amazing how we live under all this for decades, and only decide to act when the u.s wants to invade.....


 
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they will not have the choice , having relations whit big poles in the World like US , EUROPE , CHINA ...is unavoidable , they have to adopt an other terms and ways to talk to poeple ,

and you didnt answer my question about notification ^o)
I disagree with that, of course I am not the one overseeing policy making.
This verse truly comes to mind when I think of what you or they are proposing:
Al-Imran (The Family of Imran)[3:175] [RECITE]
Innama thalikumu alshshaytanu yukhawwifu awliyaahu fala takhafoohum wakhafooni in kuntum mumineena
It is almost as if you believe Islamic banking couldn't work, that man made system is better than God's. It is just a matter of being principled and standing firm on said principals. None of the aid coming in was seen by the Egyptians anyway, and their major forms of agriculture, like wheat and cotton production was greatly and slowly destroyed over the years again thanks to the former regime. So in closure I don't believe that anything was gained by having those kinds of foreign relations. In fact they were detrimental.
As for quoting multiple would be that little quote tab with a plus sign the first on your anatomic right from the bottom, while just one quote is the button next to it from the left..

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Russia: US arming Syrian rebels


http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/8411

Russia's foreign minister on Wednesday accused the United States of supplying Syrian rebels with weapons to fight against the government.
It is the latest tit-for-tat between Moscow and Washington over the Syrian crisis, coming a day after US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton accused Russia of sending attack helicopters to Syria.
"We are not violating any international law in performing these contracts," said Sergei Lavrov, in response to a question about Clinton's comments at a news conference during a visit to Iran.
Lavrov described as "patently untrue" US accusations it was aiding the Syrian government in its crackdown, maintaining Moscow's argument that its arms transfers to Syria are unrelated to the conflict there.
"They (the United States) are providing arms and weapons to the Syrian opposition that can be used in fighting against the Damascus government," he said on Iranian state television, speaking through an interpreter.

Secretary of State



Hillary Clinton
told Charlie Rose earlier in the week that the United States is working with the FSA and other opposition groups and attempting to turn them into a force capable of overthrowing the al-Assad regime.
We’re also working very hard to try to prop up and better organize the opposition. We’ve spent a lot of time on that. It’s still a work in progress,” she said.





BASICALLY, WHAT THE U.S IS DOING, IS TERRORISM ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN LAW.
AND WHAT RUSSIA IS DOING, IS LEGAL ACCORDING TO THE U.S AND RUSSIAN LAW.
WHICH IS WHY THE U.S REMAINS SILENT ON IT'S OWN ACTS.
it is however clear, that the US embarked on a plan to overthrow Syria over a decade ago, and cannot find any legal or moral justification other than through provocations and destabilization.

US and UK Government International Intervention Since 1945:

http://www.us-uk-interventions.org/biblios/biblio_syria.html

US will allocate $5m to finance Syria opposition
February 18, 2006


The United States will allocate $5 million to finance the Syrian opposition, the State Department said yesterday, two days after announcing a similar initiative for the Iranian opposition.

The State Department said in a statement that it will give the money “to accelerate the work of reformers in Syria.

The money would come from the department’s Middle East Partnership Initiative, it said.

The State Department announced on Wednesday that it would seek $75 million to step up efforts — through extra broadcasts and other activities — to influence democratic change in Iran.

Meanwhile, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States wants to strengthen its sanctions against Syria and is trying to convince other nations to follow suit.

“We intend to use the Syrian Accountability Act and use it to its fullest,” the top US diplomat told Congress, referring to a 2003 law that allows the US administration to impose sanctions against Syria. The law, which provides for a series of six diplomatic, economic and financial sanctions, was partially applied in May 2004 by President George W. Bush, but some sanctions have yet to be used.

“The Syrian Accountability Act is a very important tool,” Rice told the House of Representatives International Relations Committee.

“We’ve used a great deal of it,” she recalled.

http://dotandcalm.com/calm-archive/index/t-15689.html

it's amazing how we live under all this for decades, and only decide to act when the u.s wants to invade.....



Bro, Sis bluebell wont reply or ignore it because she have chosen the bilderbergers of the SNC as her heroes.

U.S. official to Israel:
We'll deal with Syria, Iran after Iraq war

(from an Israeli newspaper that often
reveals more truth than US media)

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/263923.html


Monday, February 17, 2003 Adar1 15, 5763 Israel Time: 19:57 (GMT+2)

U.S. official to Israel:
We'll deal with Syria, Iran after Iraq war

By Aluf Benn and Sharon Sadeh, Haaretz Correspondents, Haaretz Service and Agencies


bolton_john_ap-1.jpg

U.S. Undersec'y of State John Bolton
Syria and Iran are next.
(Photo: AP)

U.S. Undersecretary of State John Bolton said in meetings with Israeli officials on Monday that he has no doubt America will attack Iraq, and that it will be necessary to deal with threats from Syria, Iran and North Korea afterwards. (maybe not that last part... about North Korea... any time soon)

Bolton, who is undersecretary for arms control and international security, is in Israel for meetings about preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction.

In a meeting with Bolton on Monday, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said that Israel is concerned about the security threat posed by Iran. It's important to deal with Iran even while American attention is turned toward Iraq, Sharon said.

Bolton also met with Foreign Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Housing and Construction Minister Natan Sharansky.

NOTE: Netanyahu and Sharansky along with Sharon are all well known for their avowal of the right of settlement and eventual claim to the West Bank and Gaza as part of Greater Israel -- although Sharon is currently lying that he is willing to enter into a peace process again after Iraq and other Arab nations are vanquished by the U.S. military. Is Bush such a fool, or does he know he is cooperating with these criminals?




iraq war has ended, now they're going for syria and iran. Is it a coincidence that israel is barking the chemical weapons excuse?
 
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منوة الخيال;1527884 said:

And Russia is so credible.. Russia wasn't supplying Assad with attack helicopters, which is precisely how he's exterminating his citizens.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/25/russia-syrian-arms-shipment-helicopters

shame on you both in lieu of loaning your support to your fellow Muslims you favor one evil b@stard over another over the best route to eradicate Syrians.

shame on your for supporting american invasion, like you were happy when gadaffi was toppled. But the NTC is no less different. You are blind to think everything comes good from them. They're on the verge of invading syria and you still support the revolution which is been hijacked already since previous year. Syrians know this, i've talked with them. May they wake up soon when USA invades Insha'Allah .

really, i hope so you will be quiet when you read reports that US killed over 100,000 syrians by bombings. just like the 50,000 ones by NATO in libya. Again you fall in their lies, again shame on this ummah for playing their games. You are brainwashed by the media war. Your heroes at the bilderberg group will certainly be happy. (The SNC)

And when it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "We are only peacemakers."
Surely! They are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive it not." (Holy Qur'an 2:11-12)


yeah hell i support al-assad, i love communism lol ;D assumptions made again by her. Oh dear.
 
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shame on your for supporting american invasion, like you were happy when gadaffi was toppled. But the NTC is no less different. You are blind to think everything comes good from them. They're on the verge of invading syria and you still support the revolution which is been hijacked already since previous year. Syrians know this, i've talked with them. May they wake up soon when USA invades Insha'Allah .

really, i hope so you will be quiet when you read reports that US killed over 100,000 syrians by bombings. just like the 50,000 ones by NATO in libya. Again you fall in their lies, again shame on this ummah for playing their games. You are brainwashed by the media war.
I don't which parts are difficult for you to understand, how you sort through information, you're truly a cross between pitiable & frankly dangerous..neither is a compliment in case you need a conspiracy video to sort through meaning.
 
منوة الخيال;1527891 said:

I don't which parts are difficult for you to understand, how you sort through information, you're truly a cross between pitiable & frankly dangerous..neither is a compliment in case you need a conspiracy video to sort through meaning.

You think that syrian regime killing people is bad, but completely remain silent when wahhabi scholars issue fatwas that FSA can do the same. Don't follow the masses, i certainly dont. You do, lambs for the slaughter let me say. Don't cry when you see US troops raping syrian girls. I dont want to see any of your words when that happens. I only want to see your face full of regret and dissapointment. Al-jewzeera has brainwashed you. (Sold by emir of qatar, towards who?)

Dont take christians and jews as their allies even with arming. Dont seek the west for help but ask Allah for help. Then wait patiently. Allah likes the ones who have patience. Selfishness has reached your toll, i've got the weakness already out of you Alhamdulillah. And thats ignorance and selfishness.

Here are your buddies killing prisoners: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bc_1339637024 (warning graphic vid)
Ask your bilderbergers SNC why they allow that? Aren't they just and truthfull?

Have you ever talked with syrians? I even talked with lebanese who lived under Syria's occupation. It was not pretty but it seems that there are indeed foreign groups in the country. A Syrian sister said this to me. She was sunni btw. Its so good when you talk with locals, you can bring everyone down with it.

You'vre never talked with syrians on this matter, but instead remain on tv watching al-jewzeera lol. You are only such a fool making out of yourself with absurd arguments ''if israel says that doesnt mean they do that'' what a load of bollocks, those m-16 rifles are used by israel.

Not everyone who says La ilaha ill Allah or allahu Akbar is truthfull, certainly not in times like this.
 
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You think that syrian regime killing people is bad, but completely remain silent when wahhabi scholars issue fatwas that FSA can do the same. Don't follow the masses, i certainly dont. You do, lambs for the slaughter let me say. Don't cry wolf when you see US troops raping syrian girls. I dont want to see any of your words when that happens. I only want to see your face full of regret and dissapointment. Al-jewzeera has brainwashed you. (Sold by emir of qatar, towards who?)

Dont take christians and jews as their allies even with arming. Dont seek the west for help but ask Allah for help. Then wait patiently. Allah likes the ones who have patience. Selfishness has reached your toll, i've got the weakness already out of you Alhamdulillah. And thats ignorance and selfishness.

Here are your buddies killing prisoners: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bc_1339637024 (warning graphic vid)
Ask your bilderbergers SNC why they allow that? Aren't they just and truthfull?

Have you ever talked with syrians?

You can skip over what I write.. I do hope that they eradicate the Alawites in shaa Allah, unless they repent which I highly doubt.. no one here has asked for allies with anyone.. It is as if there is an impenetrable barricade around your head that merely puts out and doesn't take any input. Syrians are being raped and killed now.. is the rape and killing of now worse than hypothetical rape and killing of the future? Are you too good to be true or what exactly is wrong with you?


selective knowledge is more dangerous than ignorance!
 
Wallahi you cant understand me, and i certainly cant understand you. Nobody would agree with these kind of things. The syrian army is based on secularism but every army is.

You are speaking out of your emotion dont do that, killing women and children is unlawful. our blessed prophet(Saw) didn't touch pagan children and women either.

But you are picking one side, support the one, despise the other. Both sides have commited autrocities. FSA is known for killing government supporters even though they arent in army or police. its a whole bloody chessgame for israel to launch its bloody nukes soon on every muslims country? Do you know why our blessed prophet (Saw) woke up in a state of fear?

The arabs are used for the mass slaughter, usedf as pawns for secterian warfare.

(2) Narrated Zainab bint Jahsh: That the Prophet once came to her in a state of fear and said, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Woe unto the Arabs from a danger that has come near. An opening has been made in the wall of gog and Magog like this," making a circle with his thumb and index finger. Zainab bint Jahsh said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we be destroyed even though there are pious persons among us?" He said, "Yes, when the evil person will increase." (Book #55, Hadith #565)


This hadith really recalls that big portions of the arabs will be destroyed. do you and see know why i am worried? Why the syrians should wake up and not fall in these traps? If not for Assad then a bigger and greater evil will come to them. And this is why they arm the syrian rebels to betray them later and kill them. Just like they did with our brothers and sisters in khurasan.

I want the best of syrians- but they should never fall in America's trap. This are NOT glorious times, you see how happy the US&israeli were when dictators got toppled around the middle east. They are not scared at all.


Look at this part of the hadith:

"O Allah's Apostle! Shall we be destroyed even though there are pious persons among us?" He said, "Yes, when the evil person will increase."


Dont reply on this, until you ponder and reflect on it.
 
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Like I said, I am not interested in gog and magog or future deaths and rapes.. I am concerned with the here and now.
This is WAR not a picnic. Alwaites aren't Muslims, they're pigs no different than Zionists IDF or fundie christians mercenaries and should be eliminated
9:36-------------------------- And fight against the disbelievers collectively as they fight against you collectively. And know that Allah is with the righteous [who fear Him].
.. These are trained soldiers not civilians. You don't know how to be sharp and cut straight through the crap and that's a problem!
 
The Frenchies gave Assad power after they left the country so no doubt Assad was always western backed. Sis one thing: Saddam Hussein. Very same with the situation in syria today.

But the syrians should stop trusting america, israel or their allies(The house of Yahoud, NTC, turkey and jordan). They are not for any good. I'm not speaking out disorted truth, its only you who can't fit the puzzles. You remain quiet when Saudi arabia send mercenaries to blow themselves up in the midst of damascus.

It isnt still right to blow yourself up in a crowded street many sunnis died in this explosion btw, and no it wasnt assad who did this, who the hell would target its own military? even USA didnt do that on 9/11.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/10/syria-violence_n_1505488.html






 
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Saddam was weak wasn't he? he stood against his masters, he wanted to sell oil by the barrel in euros and they showed him. The current Iraqi govt. wasn't borne of a grassroots revolution. It was born of direct occupation. Countries in the Muslim world are either physically occupied or politically occupied, and the average git on the streets no matter how poor their education knows it. Unlike in the west for one simple reason and that is outside of what they see happening. Usually when a country has a despotic regime people can overlook it if the economic conditions are good.. like in China for instance or even the U.S.. but when the govt. is oppressive they live in castles while the rest are outside the gate you get something ugly like happened in Russia with the late czar Nicholas the II ...
it is really that simple..how much are the people willing to tolerate..
 
منوة الخيال;1527923 said:
Saddam was weak wasn't he? he stood against his masters, he wanted to sell oil by the barrel in euros and they showed him. The current Iraqi govt. wasn't borne of a grassroots revolution. It was born of direct occupation. Countries in the Muslim world are either physically occupied or politically occupied, and the average git on the streets no matter how poor their education knows it. Unlike in the west for one simple reason and that is outside of what they see happening. Usually when a country has a despotic regime people can overlook it if the economic conditions are good.. like in China for instance or even the U.S.. but when the govt. is oppressive they live in castles while the rest are outside the gate you get something ugly like happened in Russia with the late czar Nicholas the II ...
it is really that simple..how much are the people willing to tolerate..

Yes and the western media claimed he killed kurds and shia muslims, later on its known that it was very false(Or atleast it was exaggerated). Thats why i say: Dont believe the same media when it targets dictators like gadaffi or Assad, there is something very fishy. Like i said, israel came with the chemical WMD excuse again. Al-assad has now such a bad image in the arab world and europe, US that no one would bother when US or NATO invades.

Dont believe that syrian rebels atleast some of them are such friendly guys, i've seen a vid where they almost targeted children with a RPG. Blowing themselves up in the midst of damascus isnt right either eh? We are now on the very countdown of syria intervention, so lets stop talking and see further ok?

The syrain rebels have every right to kill syrian soldiers but do not involve innocents in their actions. Also they need to stop let themselves be armed by you know who. Its not about how long a jihad is during, but how steadfast you are on your deen and imaan. the afghans are fighting more then 30 years and they still don't have lost hope.

And there are around 4 million afghans killed by Russia and the US.

Rely on Allah but not the west and other dictatorships. (kinda uncanny when you get armed by another dictatorship like jordan or house of saud eh?) Dictatorships arming groups fighting against another dictatorship. I think thats hypocritical.
 
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I am not concerned with who says what.. I am concerned with what is.. maligning them further or making them into saints won't change the fact of the matter, nor will it make time move back.. I don't hate Assad because the west says he's a bad guy. I hate him because he is a bad guy and he's not governing by the rule of God and it actually serves the west o plenty to have a minority riding a majority, hence Lebanon, Iraq, Syria Sudan and Egypt if they could play on the Coptic psychology long enough.. the problem however is that they're not very seasoned with the tricks they play because they're an ocean away.. the Brits can play that game better or at least have played it better but now have t relinquish the throne to the new guys on the block and carpet bombing works some but it doesn't change hearts nor minds...
It takes skill and I have to concede that once upon a time the British empire had it and played their cards well.
Now it is time to move on. Again, no going back so might as well figure out how to move from here..

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The Americans are using the same tricks as britain did: Divide and conquer
This is both leaded by USA- britain- israel. They're not failing in this matter. Look at iraq and libya, Pakistan and you mentioned Sudan also. This is true. the best to see the truth is to go talk with syrian people like i've done and Alhamdulillah it changed my perspective. truth can come very hard.

But take in mind that US wanted to invade syria for decades, this would be just the right oppertunity. This is why i have a sharp eye, and on this why USA supports the opposition by even granting them a place in istanbul, and inviting them on the bilderberg conference (which is completely zionist)

I only want you to view the bigger picture and not the media one:


U.S. official to Israel:
We'll deal with Syria, Iran after Iraq war
(from an Israeli newspaper that often
reveals more truth than US media)

[url]http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/263923.html
[/URL]

Monday, February 17, 2003 Adar1 15, 5763 Israel Time: 19:57 (GMT+2)

U.S. official to Israel:
We'll deal with Syria, Iran after Iraq war

By Aluf Benn and Sharon Sadeh, Haaretz Correspondents, Haaretz Service and Agencies


bolton_john_ap-1.jpg

U.S. Undersec'y of State John Bolton
Syria and Iran are next.
(Photo: AP)
U.S. Undersecretary of State John Bolton said in meetings with Israeli officials on Monday that he has no doubt America will attack Iraq, and that it will be necessary to deal with threats from Syria, Iran and North Korea afterwards. (maybe not that last part... about North Korea... any time soon)

Bolton, who is undersecretary for arms control and international security, is in Israel for meetings about preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction.

In a meeting with Bolton on Monday, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said that Israel is concerned about the security threat posed by Iran. It's important to deal with Iran even while American attention is turned toward Iraq, Sharon said.

Bolton also met with Foreign Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Housing and Construction Minister Natan Sharansky.
NOTE: Netanyahu and Sharansky along with Sharon are all well known for their avowal of the right of settlement and eventual claim to the West Bank and Gaza as part of Greater Israel -- although Sharon is currently lying that he is willing to enter into a peace process again after Iraq and other Arab nations are vanquished by the U.S. military. Is Bush such a fool, or does he know he is cooperating with these criminals?
 
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and better still than talking is visiting those places first hand.. I have .. you should too!

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