muslim brotherhood

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منوة الخيال;1527982 said:

Yup it sure does.. perhaps it pays to watch the news sometimes? familiarize yourself with anti niqab laws, Guantanamo bay, prisoners held without trial or charge like Babar Ahmad, or concocted crimes like Afifa Siddiqui or Tareq Mehanna and thousands of others like them, random death toward Muslims simply for being Muslims like against Dr. marwa shirbini or taxi drivers for sporting a beard, anti minaret laws, anti sharia laws (in 26 states and rising).. You must live in some sort of bubble? The prisons exist in your country to torture your brothers and sisters are so set to please your western masters, when they took their troops out, they left their political agenda in.
I am not sure on whose behalf you speak when you talk of polarization or even patriotism. As Islam doesn't condone either but is certainly condemns injustice which seems to me you are keen to perpetuate without a root analysis of why the current systems fail.. east or west!
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it's not right , not all what comes from western is evil , and all what have is holly , we can by misunderstanding the religion making a disastrous laws , example fatwa MARDINE , because of it anwar add at was killed , and ossama ben laden use it to justify 11 september ...
your problem sister is that your vision of the world is ''dar alharb'' and ''dar alislam'' , things have changed , and you have to ...
 
I don't understand what you wrote there.. and I don't subscribe to your ideas of who Usama or Anwar are and I certainly don't subscribe to the western view of them...

fi aman illah
 
MohamedMaghrebi said:
it's not right , not all what comes from western is evil , and all what have is holly , we can by misunderstanding the religion making a disastrous laws , example fatwa MARDINE , because of it anwar add at was killed , and ossama ben laden use it to justify 11 september ...
your problem sister is that your vision of the world is ''dar alharb'' and ''dar alislam'' , things have changed , and you have to
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even the Prophet pbuh used the term "Makkans" and "Quraish" to refer to his enemies, despite himself being a Makkan Quraishi.
you would make a good spokesman for RAND,
why are you wasting your excellent talent?

anwar just answered you from the grave - or from the heart of a green bird InshaAllah:

 
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it's clair that sister منوة is mastering english better then me , so no needs for your sartastic remarks , i admit it , although i insist that she is making a lot of polarization muslim/kaffir , or what we call دار الحرب و دار السلام
 
Allah yad3o illa daar el-salaam..
what do they call for?
 
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.
and those who are with him are strong against Disbelievers,
(but) compassionate amongst each other.
Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure.
On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat;
and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight.
As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them.
Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward.
Quran 48:29

 
منوة الخيال;1527995 said:
the ones you advocate so heavily for
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:) I am defending values , not persons or organizations ... any way

try to understand what I am talking about , if people laws can garanty dignity , and freedoms , i will accept even it's comes from a non muslim ruler , and it's the case , no one can say there one ''muslim'' country , where those values are respected .
 
MohamedMaghrebi said:
I am defending values , not persons or organizations ... any way

try to understand what I am talking about , if people laws can garanty dignity , and freedoms , i will accept even it's comes from a non muslim ruler , and it's the case , no one can say there one ''muslim'' country , where those values are respected .
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There should be discourse about that particular notion of 'freedom'. Should we look at the what the thinkers during the Enlightenment period defined it as?
 
Salam alaykum

Muslimbrotherhood has similar ideology than Hamas in Gaza. I wasn´t so surprise if in Egypt they will take to government also some from religion minorities like Christians. Same did that Hamas after they election victory at 2007.
 
sister harb said:
Salam alaykum

Muslimbrotherhood has similar ideology than Hamas in Gaza. I wasn´t so surprise if in Egypt they will take to government also some from religion minorities like Christians. Same did that Hamas after they election victory at 2007.
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What does the above mean? care to elaborate?
 
Salam alaykum;

I mean they are real islamic movement. :statisfie Tolerant and fair.
 
I guess we have to see in the upcoming months if he holds on his promises, dont party to fast lol but Insha'Allah. The muslim brotherhood were just to the people.
 
Asalaamu Alaikum,

Some Egyption goes; "Finally, a God-fearing Leader"... And I'm thinkin, "God fearing" and "Civil State" don't go together bro.

I do wish Egypt all the best, and at the very least, hope that, Islam and Muslims won't be oppressed and thus Islam can further thrive within the hearts of the people. Inshallah may a future generation rise for Islam.
 
you can go to morsimeter.com to see what promises he has already fulfilled .. might not be a khilafah however in shaa Allah it will pave the way..
and maybe the people can be met with some dignity and justice for a change.. He inherited an 80 year mess, can't fix it all in two days plus change hearts and minds of folks so mired in hatred and ignorance of Islam.
 
Salam alaykum

don´t forget that in Egypt has strong military and generals also take part to political decisions as well they have still strong influence to courts.

:hmm:
 
It is a sad state of affairs that the military of Egypt has sold itself to western and zionist interests. Just like the Pakistani military in the past, the Egypt and military were for the people. But since the dissolution of the Mubarak regime the west and zionist had to try and find a way to keep their grip on Egypt and so they bought out the military and cleverly regardless of the result of the election they would still maintain constitutional control of Egypt.

So I doubt that Morsi would be able to have much autonomy or real power especially not when it comes to the military. It is also unlikely that the zionists will loosen their grip on Egypt as it is too strategically located to lose to anyone hostile to the interests of the zionist regime. So the people of Egypt will have to continue to rise, stand and fight for freedom from the suppression of the zionist and its allies.
 
I agree.. but in shaa Allah he'll be able to overturn that decision, as well a new parliament .. the gas line to Israel was hit 26 times and you're right the west doesn't mind if 'Muslims' come to power so long as it turns out similar to Pakistan, or of course 'Muslims' of a different creed all together.. but in shaa Allah, all this won't be in vain.. I keep making du3a for him.. and he used the word 'a3ynooni' and it just entered my heart.. I pray in shaa Allah that this will pave the way for khilafah and that he's able to carry out his job with justice and bring prosperity to people who have been incredibly patient and lived under so much oppression and for so long.. I mean even way back when, when they started the 'state Opera' to be civilized like Russia, it wasn't created with the average Egyptian in mind.. It has become a resort to the rich and a supermarket garden where no human dignity exists--where the big and big by force eat everyone in their path..where the worst of the people are their leaders and that is a sad state of affairs indeed...

:w:
 

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