Sick and tired of BBC Syrian Propaganda !

[Jedi_Mindset]

in adherence of Ali ibn Abu talib's wisdom I'll not waste my time much further... I"l however post a map of Jordan for folks to decide if being surrounded by Iraq, Saudi, Egypt, Palestine, Syria and Israel is more strategic or if your state of amentia (in any of what you write) has some semblance of truth or reality, common sense or even a remote strateg thought!

best,

Fail, Jordan has only interests from US-israel. But Syria in this case has interest for russia, china, iran, lebanon, iraq, israel, turkey and the USA. When a war breaks out in jordan, this will only involve KSA, USA and israel probably. But in case of syria it will involve also russia and especially Iran. So when the US attacks Syria, it will also attack hezbollah and attack iran. And this is 3 in one shot. And this will bring something much bigger then thought. And it will attack the hamas movement in palestine, why? because syria was the only place where arms were funneled through for hamas. And reminds me of this

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour would not come until the Romans would land at al-A'maq or in Dabiq. An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at that time will come from Medina (to counteract them). When they will arrange themselves in ranks, the Romans would say: Do not stand between us and those (Muslims) who took prisoners from amongst us. Let us fight with them; and the Muslims would say: Nay, by Allah, we would never get aside from you and from our brethren that you may fight them. They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army). which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah's eye, would be killed ani the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople. And as they would be busy in distributing the spoils of war (amongst themselves) after hanging their swords by the olive trees, the Satan would cry: The Dajjal has taken your place among your family. They would then come out, but it would be of no avail. And when they would come to Syria, he would come out while they would be still preparing themselves for battle drawing up the ranks. Certainly, the time of prayer shall come and then Jesus (peace be upon him) son of Mary would descend and would lead them in prayer. When the enemy of Allah would see him, it would (disappear) just as the salt dissolves itself in water and if he (Jesus) were not to confront them at all, even then it would dissolve completely, but Allah would kill them by his hand and he would show them their blood on his lance (the lance of Jesus Christ).

anyone who doesnt agree with you has lack of knowledge or ''amentia''. You are so nafsi, take away the pride, arrogance from your heart.

Where is tafseer i asked from since you are inteprenting qu'ran surahs your own way? You are not a sheikh. You come out looking like more intelligent then you really are...failing to study history, exo-politics and such.

 

[جوري]

Truly a sign of the time when the ignorant infiltrate and the rest remain silent.
'Abdullah said, "The Prophet said, 'Just before the Hour, there will be days in which knowledge will disappear and ignorance will appear, and there will be much killing.' " [Ibn Majah; also narrated by al-Bukhari and Muslim, from the hadith of al-A'mash]

If there were ever a war against Israel- and if Jordan along with the environing nations fell to the hands of Muslims you so desperately wish to quiet then the legions would go through there.. It is really simple common sense..

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

Truly a sign of the time when the ignorant infiltrate and the rest remain silent.
'Abdullah said, "The Prophet said, 'Just before the Hour, there will be days in which knowledge will disappear and ignorance will appear, and there will be much killing.' " [Ibn Majah; also narrated by al-Bukhari and Muslim, from the hadith of al-A'mash]

If there were ever a war against Israel- and if Jordan along with the environing nations fell to the hands of Muslims you so desperately wish to quiet then the legions would go through there.. It is really simple common sense..

When jordan falls into the hands of muslims, israel will be in danger. But this is also in the case of egypt, lebanon and syria. So again...failed lol.

And it is from hadeeth that the army from syria will liberate the holy land again, because thats where dajjal will be killed at the hands of isa(As) at the gate of lud(At the edges of al-quds) and every follower of him will be killed either.

I'm not ignorant on the fact of matter of exo-politics instead, i've had placed more facts then you ever had. By who are the most articles, studies and evidence posted? i even posted evidence of syria under sanctions from 2002. because syria supported ''terrorism''.

Its you who is ignoring evidence like this: (keep in mind iraq war has ended since 2011)

U.S. official to Israel:
We'll deal with Syria, Iran after Iraq war​

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(from an Israeli newspaper that often
reveals more truth than US media)
[url]http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/263923.html
[/URL]

Monday, February 17, 2003 Adar1 15, 5763 Israel Time: 19:57 (GMT+2)

U.S. official to Israel:
We'll deal with Syria, Iran after Iraq war

By Aluf Benn and Sharon Sadeh, Haaretz Correspondents, Haaretz Service and Agencies

U.S. Undersec'y of State John Bolton
Syria and Iran are next.
(Photo: AP)
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U.S. Undersecretary of State John Bolton said in meetings with Israeli officials on Monday that he has no doubt America will attack Iraq, and that it will be necessary to deal with threats from Syria, Iran and North Korea afterwards. (maybe not that last part... about North Korea... any time soon)

Bolton, who is undersecretary for arms control and international security, is in Israel for meetings about preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction.

In a meeting with Bolton on Monday, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said that Israel is concerned about the security threat posed by Iran. It's important to deal with Iran even while American attention is turned toward Iraq, Sharon said.

Bolton also met with Foreign Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Housing and Construction Minister Natan Sharansky.
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NOTE: Netanyahu and Sharansky along with Sharon are all well known for their avowal of the right of settlement and eventual claim to the West Bank and Gaza as part of Greater Israel -- although Sharon is currently lying that he is willing to enter into a peace process again after Iraq and other Arab nations are vanquished by the U.S. military. Is Bush such a fool, or does he know he is cooperating with these criminals?

 

[جوري]

When jordan falls into the hands of muslims, israel will be in danger. But this is also in the case of egypt, lebanon and syria. So again...failed lol.

And it is from hadeeth that the army from syria will liberate the holy land again, because thats where dajjal will be killed at the hands of isa(As) at the gate of lud and every follower of him will be killed either.

fails apparently in the confines of your very confused mind as you seem utterly inept at an abstract thought. The whole concept of city state and pan nationalism doesn't exist in Islam nor would it when the day comes for the end of the world signs to roll.. and that won't happen under an Alwaite regime..
so give it up unless you're posting this for the three or four of you who are indoctrinated in the same school.

best

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

fails apparently in the confines of your very confused mind as you seem utterly inept at an abstract thought. The whole concept of city state and pan nationalism doesn't exist in Islam nor would it when the day comes for the end of the world signs to roll.. and that won't happen under an Alwaite regime..
so give it up unless you're posting this for the three or four of you who are indoctrinated in the same school.

best

It looks like you are more confused then the zionists themselves, because you apparantly have watched too much al-jazeera (Which has links with israel because its owned by both 2 french-jewish brothers) and qatari media corporation.

I never said the current army of syria will liberate al-quds. Again your assumptions have backfired on you many times and by the will of Allah, He showed me the signs. Which you certainly didnt saw in your confused state. Your Ego is in danger, so you starting to insult everyone who doesnt agree with you. And this to me is a sign, that you are on the losing side. Who showed facts, evidence, and even PDF's? Not you, most of your posts are constructed of your own opinion.

Stop inteprenting qu'ran verses you are not a ulema. You need tafsir ibn kathir.

''Al Jazeera English (AJE) is an international 24-hour English-language news and current affairs TV channel headquartered in Doha, Qatar. It is the sister channel of the Arabic-language Al Jazeera.'Lol its zionist owned

''Al Jazeera (Arabic: الجزيرة‎ al-ǧazīrah IPA: [æl dʒæˈziːrɐ], literally "The Island", abbreviating "The [Arabian] Peninsula"; also Aljazeera or JSC [Jazeera Satellite Channel]) is an independent[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] broadcaster owned by the state of Qatar through the Qatar Media Corporation and headquartered in Doha, Qatar. Initially launched as an Arabic news and current affairs satellite TV channel,''

Its masonic owned


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i'm not giving up until you see the truth Insha'Allah. Even made dua for you. You are the so-called famous sis on IB but i've cornered you , because you ignored the evidence many times. Evidence whichi s greater then merely a opinion, is that this uprising in syria was western backed because it was their goal since 9/11 to overthrow the syrian regime.

 

[IslamicRevival]

Show me that he taught that it is OK to split with factions and I'll gladly eat my statements up!

Our Nabi 'Peace Be Upon Him ' didn't teach us to split into sects, rather it was a prophecy.

Dawud :: Book 40 : Hadith 4579

Narrated AbuHurayrah:
'The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The Jews were split up into seventy-one or seventy-two sects; and the Christians were split up into seventy one or seventy-two sects; and my community will be split up into seventy-three sects.'

If you're not from ahel as'sunnah then you're a shia

Your claim (quoted above) is totally contradictory to what our Nabi, Peace Be Upon Him taught us.

Again, not about my way of thinking it about deviating from Quran & sunnah

They are your personal views and I respectfully disagree.

I reference you to my earlier posts (with direct quotes from the Quran) and the hadith you yourself were so generous as to share.

Well done you for quoting the Quran and Hadith, I choose not to disrespect the Quran by quoting verses i have no knowledge of.

 

[جوري]

Our Nabi 'Peace Be Upon Him ' didn't teach us to split into sects, rather it was a prophecy.

Dawud :: Book 40 : Hadith 4579

Narrated AbuHurayrah:
'The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The Jews were split up into seventy-one or seventy-two sects; and the Christians were split up into seventy one or seventy-two sects; and my community will be split up into seventy-three sects.'

YES, that's good progress and we agree.. what is the problem?

Your claim (quoted above) is totally contradictory to what our Nabi, Peace Be Upon Him taught us.

What is the claim and where is the contradiction?

They are your personal views and I respectfully disagree.

Surely you concede that I didn't author the Quran.

Well done you for quoting the Quran and Hadith, I choose not to disrespect the Quran by quoting verses i have no knowledge of.

Well then I urge you to look at the accepted scholastic exegesis of said verses.

 

[جوري]

He showed me the signs. Which you certainly didnt saw in your confused state

How did God do that? & congratulations you're on your way to tel-evengelism - hallelujah

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

YES, that's good progress and we agree.. what is the problem?[/I]


What is the claim and where is the contradiction?


Surely you concede that I didn't author the Quran.



Well then I urge you to look at the accepted scholastic exegesis of said verses.

Use tafsirs the next hand, we are not allowed to inteprent quran surahs because we dont have the knowledge. You post qu'ran verses without tafsir and post your own reply/opinion under it. i've suggested u many times to use tafsirs, but simply u ignore it.

Only because i've a deviated mind according to you doesnt mean i am not right. Its you who has lack of common sense, history and surely exo-politics. And your replies prove this to the utter point. Alhamdulillah i've still brothers and sisters who stand at my side, who know the truth about this matrix. Who can see through the decpetions being laid by the media.

 

[جوري]

Use tafsirs the next hand, we are not allowed to inteprent quran surahs because we dont have the knowledge. You post qu'ran verses without tafsir and post your own reply/opinion under it. i've suggested u many times to use tafsirs, but simply u ignore it.

Only because i've a deviated mind according to you doesnt mean i am not right. Its you who has lack of common sense, history and surely exo-politics.

You google 90% of your knowledge why is googling ibn kathir difficult in this case? I can't imagine you'd want to pass the opportunity to prove something I have directly quoted and commented on as an epic fail..
Are you afraid you'd find something that contradicts your brand of Islam?

 

[جوري]

at any rate there ya go:
﴿أَنْ أَقِيمُواْ الدِّينَ وَلاَ تَتَفَرَّقُواْ فِيهِ﴾
((Saying) that you should establish religion and make no divisions in it.) ﴿42:13﴾, and similar Ayat in the Qur'an, "Allah commanded the believers to adhere to the Jama`ah and forbade them from causing divisions and disputes. He informed them that those before them were destroyed because of divisions and disputes in the religion of Allah.'' Similar was said by Mujahid and several others. Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal recorded that `Abdullah bin Mas`ud said, "The Messenger of Allah drew a line with his hand (in the sand) and said,
»
(This is Allah's path, leading straight.) He then drew lines to the right and left of that line and said,
«هَذِهِ السُّبُلُ لَيْسَ مِنْهَا سَبِيلٌ إِلَّا عَلَيْهِ شَيْطَانٌ يَدْعُو إِلَيْه»
(These are the other paths, on each path there is a devil who calls to it.) He then recited,
﴿وَأَنَّ هَـذَا صِرَطِي مُسْتَقِيمًا فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ السُّبُلَ فَتَفَرَّقَ بِكُمْ عَن سَبِيلِهِ﴾
(And verily, this is My straight path, so follow it, and follow not (other) paths, for they will separate you away from His path.)﴿6:153﴾'' Al-Hakim also recorded this Hadith and said; "Its chain is Sahih, but they did not record it.'' Imam Ahmad and `Abd bin Humayd recorded (and this is the wording of Ahmad) that Jabir said; "We were sitting with the Prophet when he drew a line in front of him and said,
«هَذَا سَبِيلُ الله»
(This is Allah's path.) He also drew two lines to its right and two lines to its left and said,
«هَذِهِ سُبُلُ الشَّيْطَان»
(These are the paths of Shaytan.) He then placed his hand on the middle path and recited this Ayah;
﴿وَأَنَّ هَـذَا صِرَطِي مُسْتَقِيمًا فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ السُّبُلَ فَتَفَرَّقَ بِكُمْ عَن سَبِيلِهِ ذَلِكُمْ وَصَّـكُمْ بِهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَتَّقُونَ ﴾
(153. And verily, this is My straight path, so follow it, and follow not (other) paths, for they will separate you away from His path. This He has ordained for you that you may have Taqwa.)
Imam Ahmad, Ibn Majah, in the Book of the Sunnah in his Sunan, and Al-Bazzar collected this Hadith. Ibn Jarir recorded that a man asked Ibn Mas`ud, "What is As-Sirat Al-Mustaqim (the straight path)'' Ibn Mas`ud replied, "Muhammad left us at its lower end and its other end is in Paradise. To the right of this Path are other paths, and to the left of it are other paths, and there are men (on these paths) calling those who pass by them. Whoever goes on the other paths will end up in the Fire. Whoever takes the Straight Path, will end up in Paradise.'' Ibn Mas`ud then recited the Ayah;
﴿وَأَنَّ هَـذَا صِرَطِي مُسْتَقِيمًا فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ السُّبُلَ فَتَفَرَّقَ بِكُمْ عَن سَبِيلِهِ﴾
(And verily, this is My straight path, so follow it, and follow not (other) paths, for they will separate you away from His path.)'" Imam Ahmad recorded that, An-Nawwas bin Sam`an said that the Messenger of Allah said,
«ضَرَبَ اللهُ مَثَلًا صِرَاطًا مُسْتَقِيمًا، وَعَنْ جَنْبَي الصِّرَاطِ سُورَانِ فِيهِمَا أَبْوَابٌ مُفَتَّحَةٌ، وَعَلَى الْأَبْوَابِ سُتُورٌ مُرْخَاةٌ وَعَلَى بَابِ الصِّرَاطِ دَاعٍ يَدْعُو: يَا أَيَّهَا النَّاسُ هَلُمُّوا ادْخُلُوا الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيمَ جَمِيعًا وَلَا تَفَرَّقُوا وَدَاعٍ يَدْعُو مِنْ فَوْقِ الصِّرَاطِ فَإِذَا أَرَادَ الِإنْسَانُ أَنْ يَفْتَحَ شَيْئًا مِنْ تِلْكَ الْأَبْوَابِ قَالَ وَيْحَكَ لَا تَفْتَحْهُ فَإِنَّكَ إِنْ فَتَحْتَهُ تَلِجْهُ فَالصِّرَاطُ الإِسْلَامُ وَالسُّورَانِ حُدُودُ اللهِ وَالْأَبْوَابُ الْمُفَتَّحَةُ مَحَارِمُ اللهِ وَذَلِكَ الدَّاعِي عَلَى رَأْسِ الصِّرَاطِ كِتَابُ اللهِ، وَالدَّاعِي مِنْ فَوْقِ الصِّرَاطِ وَاعِظُ اللهِ فِي قَلْبِ كُلِّ مُسْلِم»
(Allah has given a parable of the straight path, and on the two sides of this path, there are two walls containing door ways. On these door ways, there are curtains that are lowered down. on the gate of this path there is a caller heralding, `O people! come and enter the straight path all together and do not divide. ' There is also another caller that heralds from above the path, who says when a person wants to remove the curtain on any of these doors, `Woe to you! Do not open this door, for if you open it, you will enter it. The (straight) path is Islam, the two walls are Allah's set limits, the open doors lead to Allah's prohibitions, the caller on the gate of the path is Allah's Book (the Qur'an), while the caller from above the path is Allah's admonition in the heart of every Muslim.) At-Tirmidhi and An-Nasa'i also recorded this Hadith, and At-Tirmidhi said, "Hasan Gharib.'' Allah's statement,
﴿فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ السُّبُلَ﴾
(so follow it, and follow not (other) paths...) describes Allah's path in the singular sense, because truth is one. Allah describes the other paths in the plural, because they are many and are divided.
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=945&Itemid=61

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

You google 90% of your knowledge why is googling ibn kathir difficult in this case? I can't imagine you'd want to pass the opportunity to prove something I have directly quoted and commented on as an epic fail..
Are you afraid you'd find something that contradicts your brand of Islam?

My brand of islam is Ahlus sunnah wal jamaah. And yes i'm googling my knowledge from many analysts, reports and evidences made by the even locals themselves. You instead quote al-jewzeera lol. Your replies are a epic fail at the first hand. Dont twist things. Because i've seen it in this thread, who ran away many times and who ignored evidences? When u've seen clearly rebels made with american weapons, the ones who have took shaytaan as allies. The wahhabi agenda in syria is too obvious to see. And the alewite either.


Only because you've seen syrian conditions before this uprising doesnt make you to prove everything right.

Here is a syrian speaking from behalf, shocking is she is not even alewite or shia but a sunni:

''without the Syrian army we all be dead by now
dont bellieve the media
I mean when the Us or Israel wanted the best for Syria
they want our president to go cause he is the only honorable prisedent in the Arabic world
and he is the only one with palastine and in Syria we dont have israelian embassy and we will not have
The Syrian army is killing the terrorestics
the terroristics came from al qaeda and from other countries too who r killing the Syrian people
and there is a million prove for that
and today the distroy and attack a Syrian channel(alekhbaria alsouria)
they killed everyone was in the building
just because that channel say the truth
I just wanna say Waaaaaaake up and find the truth about Syria
God protect Syria and our president Bashar alasad and our army
alsalam alaykom''

 

[جوري]

See last post & cut the crap. Everyone sees through the transparency of your charade. I don't read compendiums of bull ****, fuzzy logic and absurd assertions, you're not convincing me of anything!

best,

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

See last post & cut the crap. Everyone sees through the transparency of your charade. I don't read compendiums of bull ****, fuzzy logic and absurd assertions, you're not convincing me of anything!

best,

I am not convincing you because of your stubborness (just like in the vaccine thread) , but i've convinced many others.

A sunni syrian spoke to us:


''without the Syrian army we all be dead by now
dont bellieve the media
I mean when the Us or Israel wanted the best for Syria
they want our president to go cause he is the only honorable prisedent in the Arabic world
and he is the only one with palastine and in Syria we dont have israelian embassy and we will not have
The Syrian army is killing the terrorestics
the terroristics came from al qaeda and from other countries too who r killing the Syrian people
and there is a million prove for that
and today the distroy and attack a Syrian channel(alekhbaria alsouria)
they killed everyone was in the building
just because that channel say the truth
I just wanna say Waaaaaaake up and find the truth about Syria
God protect Syria and our president Bashar alasad and our army
alsalam alaykom''

 

[IslamicRevival]

YES, that's good progress and we agree.. what is the problem?
What is the claim and where is the contradiction?

You have no right to claim one is either a Shia (Non Muslim according to you) or from Ahles Sunnah.

If you're not from ahel as'sunnah then you're a shia

Our Nabi Peace Be Upon Him taught us his Ummah will split into 73 sects, He, peace be upon him did not say the Ummah will either be Shia (Non Muslim according to you) or from Ahles Sunnah.

Surely you concede that I didn't author the Quran.

If you want me to be blunt, i will. In my personal opinion and i say this with all due respect, your views are not in line with the Quran and Sunnah. Quran is perfect in every sense but man has unfortunately failed to understand it hence the confusion and state the Ummah is in today.

See last post & cut the crap. Everyone sees through the transparency of your charade. I don't read compendiums of bull ****, fuzzy logic and absurd assertions, you're not convincing me of anything!

best,

Quoting Quran/Hadith one minute and using such foul language the next says a lot.

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

You have no right to claim one is either a Shia (Non Muslim according to you) or from Ahles Sunnah.



Our Nabi Peace Be Upon Him taught us his Ummah will split into 73 sects, He, peace be upon him did not say the Ummah will either be Shia (Non Muslim according to you) or from Ahles Sunnah.


If you want me to be blunt, i will. In my personal opinion and i say this with all due respect, your views are not in line with the Quran and Sunnah. Quran is perfect in every sense but man has unfortunately failed to understand it hence the confusion and state the Ummah is in today.



Quoting Quran/Hadith one minute and using such foul language the next says a lot.

Brother she is compromised thats why she is going nuts, she lets her shaytaan(Nafs, qarin) speaking rather than her imaan, its typical female nature.

 

[Aprender]

Only because i've a deviated mind according to you doesnt mean i am not right. Its you who has lack of common sense, history and surely exo-politics. And your replies prove this to the utter point. Alhamdulillah i've still brothers and sisters who stand at my side, who know the truth about this matrix. Who can see through the decpetions being laid by the media.

Brother, I am worried about you. What has happened to you? I remember one year ago you came here on this message board to us telling us about your family not liking Islam and because of that you were having a hard time going to take your shahada. You were willing to risk possibly losing your family just to become a Muslim. And many members here, even the sister that you are having a disagreement with right now, was encouraging you to hold onto your faith and practice Islam in secret if you had to. And now here we are, a year later or so and this is what your posts have turned into surrounding politics and things that haven't happened yet.

waAllahi, I do not want to wrong you in any way with the words that I am writing to you right now and the only reason I say this is because I miss the humility that you used to have. News articles are great for one thing in that they're good records of the past. We can go back and look at news archives and see the mistakes that were made in articles, see decisions that political leaders made, see the chronology of uprisings and so much more. But that's just it. These are things that have happened in the past. And we can look to PDFs of political research and scan voting data to make some political predictions about voting practices or who might win an election but none of this is infallible.

And even though political leaders plot and plan things, you have to remember that Allah alone decides what is going to happen. He is Al Alim and Al Muqtadir! We can sit on this forum and talk about what we might think will happen but that's just it. These are merely our thoughts. Everything can change in an instant. Allah (swt) is the best of planners. He knows. You do not know. None of us know what is going to happen.

I am worried because you wrote "I never said the current army of syria will liberate al-quds. Again your assumptions have backfired on you many times and by the will of Allah, He showed me the signs. Which you certainly didnt saw in your confused state. Your Ego is in danger, so you starting to insult everyone who doesn't agree with you. And this to me is a sign, that you are on the losing side."

Brother, you don't know who is going to be on the losing side. And what you wrote above is worrisome to me because this is the rhetoric that those Christians who predict when the rapture is going to come use when they say they were given "signs" about things that have not happened yet. We must guard ourselves from speaking about what we do not know at all times. It's OK for us to have opinions but none of us knows what is going to happen. Being wrong and making mistakes is what can lead us to humbling ourselves in repentance and being broken in front of Allah. It is better than being right about any political predictions or even some good deeds that could lead us down the path of arrogance.

May Allah help us guard our tongues and worship Him in the correct way. Ameeeeeen

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

I know sis, we all have our battles currently i'm in a huge battle right to control my desires and to control my anger. I shouldnt have spoken in such a inappriopate manner. Thank you for your concern because its rightfully.

But what i want to reach is that people need to look behind all the media nonsense being spewed, these are dangerous times we are living in. Syria has been the theater not only since 2011 but since 2002. When bush imposed sanctions on it and wanted already war with it since then. So why people are jumping on me when i say its western-backed?

 

[GuestFellow]

Which Scholars? The majority of Muslims classify Shia as Muslims, albeit misguided and its been this way for decades. Yes there are some who have extreme views which totally contradict the teachings of Islam but you cant judge every single Shia based on the actions of a minority. Shia are Muslim and nothing less, If they werent, the Ummah would universally accept them as such, just like we universally accept Qadyani's as being Non Muslim.

Salaam,

It does not matter what the majority of Muslims believe. Our beliefs should be based on Islamic texts.

 

[جوري]

You have no right to claim one is either a Shia (Non Muslim according to you) or from Ahles Sunnah.

They've so declared themselves. I have no way of knowing who is what unless they say so.. it is simple!

Our Nabi Peace Be Upon Him taught us his Ummah will split into 73 sects, He, peace be upon him did not say the Ummah will either be Shia (Non Muslim according to you) or from Ahles Sunnah.

Semantics .. what does sect mean to you? and I reference you the tafsir I enclosed above!

If you want me to be blunt, i will. In my personal opinion and i say this with all due respect, your views are not in line with the Quran and Sunnah. Quran is perfect in every sense but man has unfortunately failed to understand it hence the confusion and state the Ummah is in today.

& you're most welcome to prove me wrong.. we can all stand to learn something. It isn't about ego or majority vote. You learn from scholars, you discern, you pass the knowledge. Sugar coating and concessions in the fundamental isn't acceptable, the fundamentals of aqeedah are a done deal!

Quoting Quran/Hadith one minute and using such foul language the next says a lot.

In what way care to elaborate? fully incorporating where one party was purely civil while the other purely foul!