Urgent!!! PLEASE HELP!

[Periwinkle18]

Alhumdulillah ersin's getting better thts gr8 news mashaAllah may Allah make him happy and healthy Ameen

 

[Scimitar]

His strength is something I still cannot comprehend. I am in awe of his ability to just remain patient... if it was me? I don't think I would have nowhere near the level of patience our bro Ersin has, masha-Allah...

... Let's continue to keep him in our duas.

Scimi

 

[Snowflake]

Assalaam alaikum, been really busy lately so not been on the forum much.

However, today I have this bit of news to share with you:

Alhamdulillah, he is feeling a little better now - although he is now on the breathing equipment full time. Please keep our brother Ersin in dua's.

Scimi

Jazak Allah khayr for update brother. I been wondering about brother Ersin. Al hamdulillah, I'm so happy to hear he's feeling better than before. I hope you are well too insha Allah. Salams to brother Ersin.

 

[Amat Allah]

شَافاه الله و كُل مَريضٍ مِنْ خَلقِهِ جَلَّ و عَلا

أَذْهِب البَأس رَبَّ النَّاس و اشْفِه أنْتَ الشَّافِي لا شِفَاءَ إِلِّا شِفَائُك شِفَاءً لا يُغَادِرُ سَقَمَا آمييين

 

[~ Sabr ~]

:salamext:

How is the brother?

 

[Scimitar]

Assalaam Alaikum,

We haven't heard from brother Ersin in over a week now. We're really worried about him. As you know, he is sufferring from Duchennes Muscular Dsytrophy, and can only move his 2 hands and his head. He is wheelchair bound and is solely reliant on his parents for most things - by the mercy of Allah.

His condition has been deteriorating over the past few months. He has been keeping a brave face thru all this, even though he's been on breathing equipment. As you know, not many Duchennes patients live past the age of 20, bro Ersin is almost that age now...

... please please please, please!!! please keep brother Ersin in your dua's, please. I don't know what else to say

Scimi

 

[Snowflake]

I don't know what to say. I've been thinking of bro Ersin as I thinking I hadn't as yet conveyed my ramadan greetings to him. I really don't know what to say bro, except that Ersin is in my duas and others as well and that no matter how painful, we all slaves of Allah and in full submisison to His will. I bet bro Ersin is much stronger than us and only Allah can give him his due reward for all the suffering he has faced. Be strong bro. Allah is with bro Ersin.

 

[Signor]

We the Lambs would love to convey your message.Though fact of the matter is we have not seen him online for a couple of days,more specifically since Ramadhan starts,so we(me,scimi,jedi...)all are worried for him aswell.Hopefully Ersin will be in the best of health and happiness,insha-Allah.Jazak Allah khair for your kind words and duas.May Allah keeps you in his favour forever.Ameen
Assalamo Alaikum

 

[~Zaria~]

My heart is heavy for a brother that I have never met personally.

I am just thinking of the qoedrat of Allah (subhanawataála).
He has planned our lives thousands of years before we even came to be......including our young brother Ersin.

In His Great Wisdom, this is HIS plan for him. Nothing we do or say, can ever change that.
This is the trial that Ersin needs to face before returning to his Creator......as we all will, oneday.

The manner in which our humble brother has endured this great ordeal is all that matters - his patience and faith in Allah (subhanawataála) will raise him to such a high status in the Aakhirah, insha Allah.

As painful as it is to see a loved one in pain/ to lose someone close to us, the beauty of Islam is that we can find such comfort in knowing that our return is to our Creator (insha Allah, at a point when He is most pleased with us).
We come full circle.

We miss the ones who may leave us along the way,on this worldly journey.

But take solace thats its not for long, insha Allah.

We are all marching onwards - towards the same destination.

May Allah (subhanawataáala) grant brother Ersin comfort and peace where-ever he is right now.
And forgive him.
And make this trial easy on him.
And reward him abundantly in the Aakhirah, for all that he has endured.
Ameen.

:wa:

 

[جوري]

I'd written a large post here but all words seem superfluous .. Sob7an Allah we do need to temper our sometimes seemingly impossible existence here with the knowledge that life is a fleeting temporary thing and always look at those far less fortunate as a lesson in both patience and gratitude more so that they're also an extension of us for we as an ummah are one body and when a part of the body ails the rest of the body suffers.
Truly we've none but Allah swt and our du3a. May Allah set grant shifaa to those ill- Rahma to those who have passed on and patience to those tried, victory and relief to the ummah.. We're five days into Ramadan in shaa Allah lrts make du3a and be hopeful of relief from the kindness and mercy of Allah swt.

 

[~Zaria~]

Assalamu-alaikum,

Any news on our brother Ersin?

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

no...no news nothing.

 

[Scimitar]

Yes, and I can see that it is affecting you bro. You two are very close, always online and always in some discussion :|

I am very sad.... is this really happening?

 

[Signor]

^^Don't Feel so disappointed from the mercy of Allah.Ersin must be in good spirits,insha-Allah.I still think he must be busy with his family this is why he couldn't go online as he used to be

 

[Scimitar]

I really hope you are right akhi, I really do... I cannot sleep.

Scimi

 

[CosmicPathos]

He has planned our lives thousands of years before we even came to be......including our young brother Ersin.

Do not want to derail the thread, but is there evidence of this? From what I know only time of birth, gender, rizq and time of death are pre-determined. Everything else is based on our actions.

Because if what you have said is true then what is the point of living as everything about our life was pre-planned by Allah swt, I find that hard to digest that God would pre-plan our life and then we have to live through the pre-planned life. If someone commits suicide, was that pre-planned too? :S

Or did you mean everything has been written? That is true, everything has been written based on God's foreknowledge, does not mean God engineered it.

And I hope bro Ersin is bz in ibadaah and hence we dont seem him on net. iA.

 

[~Zaria~]

I am very sad.... is this really happening?

Is there any way that we can contact his family via phone/ post, e.g?

: (

Allah (subhanawatáala) knows best.
And wherever he is right now, he is in the care of our Creator - the most Loving and the most Merciful. We do not need to worry insha Allah.

Do not want to derail the thread, but is there evidence of this? From what I know only time of birth, gender, rizq and time of death are pre-determined. Everything else is based on our actions.

Because if what you have said is true then what is the point of living as everything about our life was pre-planned by Allah swt, I find that hard to digest that God would pre-plan our life and then we have to live through the pre-planned life. If someone commits suicide, was that pre-planned too? :S

Or did you mean everything has been written? That is true, everything has been written based on God's foreknowledge, does not mean God engineered it.

And I hope bro Ersin is bz in ibadaah and hence we dont seem him on net. iA.

^ Your queries concern the concept of qadr from an Islamic view-point.

The basic principles being:

1. Allah KNOWS what you will do (thousands of years before your birth).

2. Allah wrote it down.

3. Allah ALLOWS it to happen.

4. The actual happening of the event.

So, yes - you do have free will in life - e.g to take your own life.....and Allah already knows this......and it all occurs within the time that He (subhanawata ála) has appointed.


Having said this, there are some/ many elements of our life that are not within our control.

A similitude regarding this (heard from the late Ml Yunus Patel (ra) ):


'Your Life' can be compared to a 'Computer game'

--> The creator of the game - Allah (SWT), has already laid down the entire programme for this game - i.e. to a large extent, the course of your life has already been pre-determined - e.g. you do not have control over the family that you are born into, your health conditions, etc.
These have already been 'programmed' for your particular life/ 'game'. The way the game ends, and when it will end, has also been set by its creator (Allah SWT).

Imagine that you are 'playing' this computer game, i.e. you are living your life.

During the course of the game, you have the ability to make many choices - e.g should you turn into the left corridor or right corridor, should you enter the castle or turn back, for example. Although the choices are yours, they occur within the confines of the programme of this game.

In the same way, we have the ability to make choices at every turn in life, but at the same time confined, to a certain extent, to a pre-determined plan for our life, set by Allah (SWT).


Hope this brings more clarity, insha Allah.

Sorry for this small diversion everyone.

:wa:

 

[CosmicPathos]

So does this mean that everyone will suffer different trials in dunya and their extent varies? Can we then say that ppl who do not suffer much trials in dunya are usually going to Hellfire since they didnt suffer much anyways?

You can pm me the answer, iA.

wsalam

 

[Scimitar]

^ Your queries concern the concept of qadr from an Islamic view-point.

The basic principles being:

1. Allah KNOWS what you will do (thousands of years before your birth).

2. Allah wrote it down.

3. Allah ALLOWS it to happen.

4. The actual happening of the event.

So, yes - you do have free will in life - e.g to take your own life.....and Allah already knows this......and it all occurs within the time that He (subhanawata ála) has appointed.

this makes no sense to me at all sis. This is a contradiction. If you have free will and God knows that there is only one possible avenue for you to take in life - then where is three choice? NOOOOOOO.

Let me explain. You come to X-roads in life, where you have to choose which of the two paths you will walk, This happens many times in a day. This is where YOU make the choice... Not God. No. God knows all the possibilities and HE can calculate all outcomes, and prepare for them. As HE says, HE is the best of planners...

So let's recap real quick.

1) you have free will
2) Allah has given your life so many choices, that no matter which one you take - HE still knows what the various outcomes will be. You still have a choice, still have free will... but only Allah knows how it all ends.
3) Only three things you cannot change, these are:

a) who and when you marry
b) your income proviso
c) the time and place of your death...

anyone who says BIRTH is part of that - think again, because your soul was alive before your body was.

Also, I have not slept. I am worried about Ersin. just can't keep my eyes shut. And now, it's daylight, (facepalm)

Scimi

 

[~Zaria~]

this makes no sense to me at all sis. This is a contradiction. If you have free will and God knows that there is only one possible avenue for you to take in life - then where is three choice? NOOOOOOO.

Let me explain. You come to X-roads in life, where you have to choose which of the two paths you will walk, This happens many times in a day. This is where YOU make the choice... Not God. No. God knows all the possibilities and HE can calculate all outcomes, and prepare for them. As HE says, HE is the best of planners...

So let's recap real quick.

1) you have free will
2) Allah has given your life so many choices, that no matter which one you take - HE still knows what the various outcomes will be. You still have a choice, still have free will... but only Allah knows how it all ends.
3) Only three things you cannot change, these are:

a) who and when you marry
b) your income proviso
c) the time and place of your death...

anyone who says BIRTH is part of that - think again, because your soul was alive before your body was.

Also, I have not slept. I am worried about Ersin. just can't keep my eyes shut. And now, it's daylight, (facepalm)

Scimi

^ Akhee, you are actually in agreement with what has been said.
Please read my post again.

except for:

Only three things you cannot change, these are:

a) who and when you marry
b) your income proviso
c) the time and place of your death...

Theres many other things that we cannot change in out lives - e.g. brother Ersin had no choice with regards to his genetic condition.

As mentioned:

1. Allah KNOWS what you will do (thousands of years before your birth).

2. Allah wrote it down.

3. Allah ALLOWS it to happen.

4. The actual happening of the event.


--> The past/ present and future exists as defined time periods for us, mortals.
But Allah transcends all time.

So, Allah (subhanawataála) KNOWS what YOUR CHOICE will be, before YOU even make it (thousands of years before you even existed).
And He lets you make this choice, out of His mercy - because we are given free-will (within a pre-defined plan set for your life).
^ Hope thats clearer insha Allah.

So does this mean that everyone will suffer different trials in dunya and their extent varies?

Yes.

Can we then say that ppl who do not suffer much trials in dunya are usually going to Hellfire since they didnt suffer much anyways?

Not at all.

We should remember:

There are 2 routes to Allah Taala….either the road of sabr (patience), or the road of shukr (gratitude).

In actual fact, the test of bounties (shukr) is more difficult than the test of sabr.

In sabr - the person is going through difficulties/ hardships, e.g. illness, death, loss of business, etc. It is these times that will automatically bring him to the door of Allah Taala, even those with weak imaan.

The person strapped to his hospital bed, with tubes and drips, etc….at that time will he be thinking of committing sins?
He’s going to be crying out to Allah….i.e that sickness is a mercy from Allah as well.
Allah Taala is with that person who is sick, i.e it is a bounty as well.

But we are weak, so we ask of Allah not to test us with such.

When it is the road of shukr, Allah is giving that person everything: good health, wealth, children, etc.
Because he is not going through any pain and suffering, he thinks, "Allah is pleased with me".

But this is a bigger test than the test of sabr.
It takes a greater effort to remember to praise and thank Allah (subhanawataála) when things are going really well for us.

Also, we will oneday be accountable for all that we have been blessed with in this dunya:

How did we use our health? -> Was a means for doing good and strengthening this ummah....or did we spend countless hours in front of the TV or abuse this trust with drugs and alcohol?
How did we use our wealth? - Did we support the poor and orphans?.......or did we carelessly waste it on things that attach us to this dunya?
How did we use our intellect?
How did we use every single bounty that has been bestowed upon us?

Can we see how great the test of shukr is?
Theres much more that diverts our remembrance away from Allah......and much more to account for.


:wa: