Anti Islamic propaganda!Thousands of Youtube videos willifies people to believe Lies.

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Scimitar said:
Even when it infiltrates the site you visit and you have to witness flame wars? No... we deal with it bro.

Scimi
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Since you were responding to me...

Well I just read the first post. From reading loads of books and articles, I have seen propaganda made against many things.
 
"Ignore it."

Yes good advice to those whose know already something about islam but what those new muslims can do? How they know what kind of posts have to ignore and what not?

Thats why better not ignore trolls but show how wrong they information is.
 
sister harb said:
"Ignore it."

Yes good advice to those whose know already something about islam but what those new muslims can do? How they know what kind of posts have to ignore and what not?

Thats why better not ignore trolls but show how wrong they information is.
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Actually that's me just typing something for the sake of it. It's a sign that I'm tired, exhausted and...meh...
 
I know. We all are tired to those trolls.

Zionists-ones or anti-islamic-ones or both.

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I'm not, I want to expose them and let them know that we're onto them - so they can tear their hairs out in frustration - and not get paid the big dough :D

All that effort, what do they gain? Sin for conspiring against the Muslims, and no pay to boot :) Not to mention a waste of their time :)

Truth will prevail

Scimi
 
Scimitar said:
I'm not, I want to expose them and let them know that we're onto them - so they can tear their hairs out in frustration - and not get paid the big dough :D

All that effort, what do they gain? Sin for conspiring against the Muslims, and no pay to boot :) Not to mention a waste of their time :)

Truth will prevail

Scimi
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I wish you luck. I have fighted with kind of trolls in net and in other places last 25 years. Never mind, I can continue same also next 25 years if needed.

;D
 
Indeed, those who disbelieve spend their wealth to avert [people] from the way of Allah . So they will spend it; then it will be for them a [source of] regret; then they will be overcome. And those who have disbelieved - unto Hell they will be gathered.
[FONT=me_quran] إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا يُنفِقُونَ أَمْوَالَهُمْ لِيَصُدُّوا عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ ۚ فَسَيُنفِقُونَهَا ثُمَّ تَكُونُ عَلَيْهِمْ حَسْرَةً ثُمَّ يُغْلَبُونَ ۗ وَالَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا إِلَىٰ جَهَنَّمَ يُحْشَرُونَ [/FONT]​
[FONT=me_quran]The only thing we can do is to like good islamic videos for dawah and we can make a thread for this purpose.
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That is NOT the only thing we can do... we have many options. Rather say, this is the only thing "I" would like to do... yes?

Scimi
 
Yes Scimi, we can

 
Gotta admit though, the Quran quote that Good Brother used, fits in perfectly with these organisations which are hell bent (pun intended) on dis-reputing Islam...

Scimi
 
I remember I used to have a similar zeal that quite a few of you guys have now. Some time ago, I was in an Islamic facebook group. It got trolled by a couple of d-bags (one was an ex-muslim), but no one really knew how to deal with them. So me being the white knight that I am, got stuck right in the middle of things (I had initially reported them both AND e-mailed the group admin but to no avail). On many occasions I would go in and just destroyed the argument as well as the poster...I was always relatively calm and well mannered though. It was fun at times because these two d-bags would go out of there way to troll as hard as they could, then I'd come in and ruin all their fun.

After a month or so, it got kind of boring. I'd trash one guy's arguments day in day out until they left. Then two days later, someone else would start mouthing off, so I'd tear them a new one. And it kept going and going, literally every day some new guy had another bat-sh!t insane conspiracy theory or video or this or that. It didn't matter if I'd already pounded one guy into cyber dust, two more would take his place. So eventually I stopped posting on FB groups and called it quits (sure I felt a little good about myself after I counter-trolled people out of the group, but what did it matter if two more would come in the next day? I wasn't getting paid for this and the groups admin hadn't replied nor had he done a **** thing since I'd been there) so I left and never really looked back.

Then there was Youtube. It was a similar kind of thing, but I'd learnt so much at this point I would just mock every troll I came across since I could no longer take their arguments seriously because of how weak they were (one guy used a really weak hadith, like so weak I didn't even recognise it...one google search later showed me how weak it really was...). But again, as with facebook the same problem, just on a much grander and dumber scale (the stuff I'd read and heard...you would just scratch your head in confusion) - more people, more anonymity and more bull-crap to sift through.

Then finally I had a few more discussions on this forum until I basically stopped posting altogether (I think that was almost a full year ago). I'd seen every single argument, from nonsensical to down-right stupid and beyond and I was finally done with it all. I'd finally learnt that the people who were making these outlandish statements were trolls and nothing more and as such simply don't deserve my time nor my energy. I didn't mind learning and reading about Islam, but as far as debates and even discussions go, I was done.

It's funny really, the Quran itself warns us about these people. I guess we just need to take heed of it's advice a little more. Scratch that, a lot more.
 
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Great post, brother aamirsaab!
 
At last, one documentary that doesn't split hairs...


I know, it really blows the whole Syrian episode into fresh waters. About time.

Scimi
 
Scimitar said:
For example, they will arm up the shill with a list of sites that abrogate verses of the Quran and hadeeth, and also, they teach these shills that they can use weak and fabricated hadeeth to confuse Muslims and create doubt in their hearts... and that most Muslims won't even know if the hadeeth quoted is sahih or not.
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Funny you mention this because I noticed it. On anti Islamic sites and pages when they would quote the Quran i realized quite a bit of it didn't match up or they actually fused to different section of it together to make a new sentence. I am not even a Muslim but the polar opposite and even I have picked up on this. Most of these people are "Christians" (lets not start a war with them). But they have a reputation for lying on anything and everything including their own Bible.
There is saying that circulates amongst Christians. You will notice that when times comes for your death that you will notice that the greatest majority of people in Hell will be Christians. No offense to them but they do not follow their own morals nor dogma, a main reason I left :hmm:
 
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There are a lot of these kind of videos, I once saw a person getting beat up, some **** went and put "Look what Muslims do!" when it never had anything to do with Muslims for example take this video of the last years London (England) riots, had nothing to do with Muslims or Blacks (It was Ramadan) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iCcejX1rxk

Look at the title! Just people being stupid..
 
What we also need to focus on is Muslims spreading false information and calling each other "kafirs" first. If all the Muslims work together then all this Anti-Islam propaganda will be much easier to take down.
 
When we should dfend against the attacks from the outside, we should be aware of the attacks form the inside either;

''"Walla ya ikhwa sometimes you feel very sad that the muslims are asleep they dont realise whats going on around them. Brothers and sisters theres a great conspiracy against islam , there is a conspiracy against the religion , there are attempts by the enemy of Allah (freemasons/illuminati ) to make you follow a water downed religion and theyre spending lots of money and lots of efforts for that purpose, and theyre not gonna do it by their own people theyre gonna use muslims to do it for them theyre gona use the fifth collumn to do it for them- almunaiqoun ( hypocrites) to do it for them and some of these munafiqeen can be men of knowledge so you have to be very awear…you dont have to learn this from the media or go to these conspiracy books it is right there in the Quran , look at the worse statements you can find by the enemies of Allah quoted in the media- the worse they can say ..and then remember when Allah says "Qad badat albaqbqah min afwahihum wa ma tukhfe sudourihum" (translation) "Hatred has appeared from their mouths but what their hearts conceal is greater" all of these statements are the tip of the iceberg , you havent seen anything , believe it when Allah says in the Quran "wa in kaan makrahum tazoola minhu aljibaal" "they are plotting against you and their plotting is sufficient it can move mountains out thier place" The plotting is so bad "Makur illayl wa alnahar" (transation) Plotting of day and night" so were gona have to wake up"''

- sheikh Anwar Al-awlaki(Ra)
AT 51 minutes and 17 seconds he says this

this was also the reason why they assasinated him, he made muslims aware of their plans and to take action.
 
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Crimson said:
What we also need to focus on is Muslims spreading false information and calling each other "kafirs" first. If all the Muslims work together then all this Anti-Islam propaganda will be much easier to take down.
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السلام عليكم

Well said!!! <3
 

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