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Asalam Alaikkum

Brothers and Sisters gave you the best advise here sis

Its just makes me upset why cant you be sure he's using you, making you lie and playing with your mind?

He is so coward. There is nothing to confuse about this. He has to decide in front of you&your family, in front of his family and society and on top of all sincerity to Allah

Astagfurallah, a real man will not do that. What more a Muslim who fears Allah swt? :hmm:
 
sunnigril said:
thankyou so much for all the support and advice.. i have raised this issue with him and he actually read the kalima stating that this is what he was brought up with..
he is claiming that he finds faults in ahmadiyaat himself and is only still involved with it due to respect for his family..

he says that he will go through the reverting process with my local imaam if that will make things better BUT on one condition that i "pretend" to accept ahmadiyaat in front of his family and jammat..

now i dont want to agree to this but then i think that if he is willing to take this step for me, would me agreeing to his condition be sinful? he says his family is not really strict with ahmadiya teachings but have the whole izzat thing with society.. ??
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can i ask where r u from bcz plz dont mind but i am saying bit bitter truth, which i rarely say but here i think its necessary to let u know the real situation.
in Australia the worst kind of ppl r these ahmidyis. reason bcz actually they were muslims (mostly from Pakistan and India) and many of them still know islam is truth and they r wrong. but these ppl just for sake of few dollars and Australian nationality sell their eman and bcm ahmidis. kuffars like them too much and u just have to say that u r ahmadi and u have life threat in pakistan bcz of religious belief, u will get nationality in most easy way alongwith financial support. but they have to pay for it bcz when u use this name then u have to active member of their jamat. so i persoanlly know many ppl here who knows they r wrong and they abuse ahmadis on their back, but in front of them they r obliged to attend their meeting. so my sincere advise is to "NOT TO MARRY" such person who is liar and hypocrite. they can lie to them self, other ppl and all world just sake of few dolloars or personal interest. who knows he will convert to islam by heart or not, maybe its same drama what u have to play in front of his family. Never go into this hypocrisy and never compromise on truth. if he is serious for u and true in his love, then he should have to be bold not a hypocrite, if he knows his family is wrong, he need to tell them that u r wrong and i dont blv this. never fall into this trap of hypocrisy, seek help from Allah SWT and ask for someone who is better for ur eman, islam, childs, dunia and akhra. to me if u go for this person, u will put ur and ur childs deen & dunia in very big test nad maybe u have to suffer alot.
Allah swt guide u to the right. ameen
my prayers r with u, Allah SWT keep is u safe from any mishap.
forgive me if u feel my words bit harsh. i never generalize ppl in that way but here was something i want to make u aware of. bcz to me, i am 100% sure he doesn't seems to be fair in his intention rather a very tricky and hypocrite person. and Allah SWT knows the best.
 
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sunnigril said:
BUT on one condition that i "pretend" to accept ahmadiyaat in front of his family and jammat..
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When you testify in front of them that you are a Qadiyani, these are the beliefs of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyan that you are agreeing to:

Insulting Allah sub'haanahu wa ta'aala, and being blasphemous to Him and Mirza claiming to be Allah.

"During a spiritual revelation, I felt as if I was God and believed it to be so." (Kitab al Baruyya, page 85, Rohnai Khazain, vol 13, page 103, by Mirza Qadiyani)

"God says that He would come on to the mankind hidden like thieves." (Tajaliat al bia page 4, Rohani Khazain, vol 20, p396 by Mirza Qadiyani).

"How could a sane person accept that during our own times God can listen but cannot speak? The question could be raised why it is so. Has a disease affected His tongue?" (Zamima Braheen e Ahmadiyya, part 5 p144, Rohani Khazain vol 21 p312 by Mirza Qadiyani)

The unparalleled God is such a Being that has countless feet and hands and parts of body and this number reaches infinity and just like an octopus, His wires surround the universe. (Tozeh Mram P: 42 Roohani Khazain V: 3 P: 90)

Insulting our beloved Prophet :saws: and being blasphemous to him, and claiming to be him and more superior to him

"Anyone who differentiates me from Mustafa has not seen and recognised me." (Khutba Ilhamia p171, Rohani Khazain, vol 16 p 259, by Mirza Qadiyani).

I am Adam, I am Noah, I am Abraham, I am Isa, I am Jacob, I am Ismail, I am Moses, I am Dawood, I am Christ the son of Mary, I am Muhammad (Haqiqat al Wahi P: 521, Roohani Khazain V: 18 P: 232)

"God named me Muhammad and Ahmad in Braheen e Ahamdiyya 20 years back and declared me to be him. Hence his being the last of the Prophets has not in any way affected my prophethood, as a shadow cannot be separated from it's origin." (Aik ghalati ka azala, p8 Rohani Khazain, vol 18, p212 by Mirza Qadiyani)

"God has again sent Muhammad to Qadiyan and has hence fulfilled His promise." (Kalma tul Fasal, p15, by Mirza Bashir Ahmad, son of Mirza Qadiyani)

Muhammad has again descended among us, and is more prestigious than before. Whoever wants to see Muhammad should see Ghulam Ahmad in Qadiyan. (Newspaper Badar Qadiyan, 25.10.1906)

But “Massiah Maud” (The Promised Christ [Mirza Qadiyani] was endowed with Prophet Hood only when he got all the excellences of the Prophet Hood of Muhammad (Sallallaho–Alaihe–Wassallam) [....]to make him an equal to Muhammad (Sallallaho–Alaihe–Wassallam). (Kalmat ul Fasl P. 118 by Mirza Basher Ahmad)

I have said earlier many times that I am the Last prophet (Ek Ghalaty ka Azala P. 10, Roohani Khazain V. 18 P.212)

“Massiah Maud” (The Promised Christ [Mirza Qadiyani]) is, in fact, Muhammad (Sallallaho–Alaihe–Wassallam) himself. He was sent again in the world to spread Islam. (Kalmat Ul Fasl: P: 113 by Mirza Basher Ahmed)

Insulting, uttering obscenities, and being blasphemous to Isa alayhi assalaam, his mother and his family, and claiming to be the messiah and claiming to be more superior than Isa alyhi assalaam

Christ had the habit of calling names and abusing. He got furious at petty things; he was a prey to his emotions. And often he used to tell a lie. (Roohani Khazain: V: 11, P: 289)

It is a matter of shame that he stole the teachings of the mountain that is the crux of the Bible, from the Jews’ Book, Talmud. After this plagiarism he revealed them as his own teachings. (Roohani Khazain: V: 11, P: 290)

The Christians have written much about Christ’s miracles, but the fact is that he had none. And when he abused people who were demanding miracles, the pious people broke all connections with him. (Roohani Khazain: V: 11, P: 290)

Christ belonged to a very 'virtuous' family. Three of his maternal and paternal grandmothers were adulterers and prostitutes. He had the blood of these women in his veins, but perhaps this was also an eternal requirement. (Roohani Khazain: V: 11, P: 291)

Taking wine has caused much loss to the Europeans. Perhaps they have the justification that Christ himself took wine; he took wine because of some disease or he was a habitual drinker as the case may be. (Roohani Khazain: V: 19, P: 71)

Once a friend of mine suggested that opium is good for diabetics. So it is not bad to use it for the sake of treatment. I replied to him, “Thank you for your concern, but if I develop the habit of taking opium, I fear people will laugh and say that the first Christ was a drunkard and the second one an opium-eater”. (Roohani Khazain: V: 19, P: 434-435)

God sent His Promised Christ (Masseah–e–Maud) towards the Ummah, who is superior to the first Christ in all respects. He named the second Christ as Ghulam Ahmed. (Roohani Khazain: V: 18, P 233)

Qadiyanis/Ahmadis also believe that Isa alayhi assalaam died and is buried in Kashmir.

Insulting the sahaaba (may Allah be pleased with them)

Some foolish ‘Sahaba’ could get (benefit) nothing from knowledge. (Roohani Khazain V: 21 P: 285)

Who ever believes in Quran should throw away the sayings of Abu Hurerah like a useless thing. (Roohani Khazain V: 21 P: 410)

What was the status of Abu Bakar and Umar. They were not even worth of untying the laces Hazrat Ghulam Ahmed’s shoes.
(Monthly Al Mehdi 3/2 1905 P: 157)

Do not dispute over caliphate. Now think about the new caliphate. You have a living Ali amongst you. You reject him and reach for the dead Ali. (Malfoozat-e-Ahmedia V: 1 P: 400)

O Christian missionaries! Do not call Christ. Because there is one among you who is greater than Christ. And O Shia people! Do not insist on Hussein, I tell you truly that there is one among you greater than Hussein. (Roohani Khazain, v: 18 P: 233)

Insulting the Qur'an and Hadeeth, saying he received revelations from Allah, and that those are the real Qur'an.

The Quran was revealed near Qadiyan. The detail of this revelation is "That in fact We revealed Quran close to Damascus on the eastern side on the white minaret' as I live on the eastern end of the river. (Tazkara Majmooa Ilhamat: P: 76, second edition)

We asked as to where Quran is? Had there been any Quran, there would have been no need for another messenger. The problem is that Quran does not exist now. That is the cause of Muhammad (Sallallaho–Alaihe–Wassallam) (Mirza Qadiyani) being sent again as ‘Berozi’ in the world so that Quran may be revealed to him.(Kalmat ul Fasl: P: 173)

I swear upon God that I have so firm a faith in these revelations as I have faith in Quran and God’s other Books. And as I believe the Quran as the words of God, in the same way the words that are revealed to me I take them as God’s words or speech. (Haqiqat Ul Wahi: P: 220, Roohani Khazain: V: 22, P: 220)

The Qur'an is the book of God and my sayings. (Tazkara Majmua Wahi o ilhamaat p635, 2nd ed, p641 3rd ed, p547 4th ed by Mirza Qadiyani)

We also refer to those ‘Hadiths’ that confirm to the Quran and do not contradict my revelation. While to other sayings of the Holy Prophet (S.A.W) (Hadiths) we throw them in dust bin. (Roohani Khazain: V: 19, P: 140)


Insulting Makkah and Madinah, and saying that his birth place in India is more superior and holy

Mirza Qadiyani was not only discourteous against the two Holy cities of Mecca and Medina, but he also declared his birth-place as more holy and superior to these two Holy places. For him paying a visit to Qadiyan was like a Pilgrimage to ‘Bait Ullah’.

Near the middle of the right sided page of the Quran is this verse quoted " and surely We revealed it (the Holy Quran) close to Qadiyan" Then I thought in my mind that Qadiyan's name occurs in the Holy Quran. I thought that three cities have been given importance in Quran i.e. Mecca, Medina and Qadiyan.
(Roohani Khazain V: 3 P: 140)

Masjid e Aqsa (The Dome of the rock) stands for the mosque of the Promised Christ that is in Qadiyan. So there is no doubt that Qadiyan has been mentioned in the Holy Quran. As God says:
(Roohani Khazain V: 16 P: 21)

People go to perform a ‘Nefli’ and customary Hajj, but visiting Qadiyan is of more value and reward than the ‘Nafli Hajj’. And the careless ones will be the losers as it is a Divine Order.
(Roohani Khazain V: 5 P: 352)

The Promised Christ has stressed and warned that who ever does not visit Qadiyan off and on; I fear that their faith would go waste. So whoever breaks his ties with Qadiyan, will be rejected. So fear from being rejected. For how long this fresh milk will continue. A day comes when even mother’s milk goes dry. Has the milk from the breasts of Mecca and Medina not gone dry?
(Haqiqat al Rouya P: 46)

and the list goes on.

He also claimed to be an avatar of the Hindu god Krishna:

I have also been given the name of Krishna who appeared as a Prophet in India, and who is also called Ruddar Gaupal. Thus I am the Krishna whose advent the Aryas are awaiting in this age. I do not make this claim on my own, but God Almighty has repeatedly disclosed to me that I am the Krishna - King of the Aryas - who was to appear in the latter days...” (The Essence Of Islam, Volume 4, Page 83 by MGA)

“I saw in a vision that I was sitting on a large square throne which was set down among the Hindus. One Hindu inquired from someone: Where is Krishna? He pointed to me and said: This is he. Then the Hindus, who were present, began to make offerings of money etc. to me. One of them called out (Hindi): O Krishna, slayer of swine, protector of cows...” (Tadhkirah - Page 459)

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Muslims (and anyone that opposes Ahmadis/Qadiyanis) are viewed as children of prostitutes (Aina e kalamat e Islam, Rohani Khazain vol 5 p 547-548) and as *******s (born illegitimately) (Anwar e Islam p30 Rohani Khazain vol 9 p 31), as wild boars, and women as *****es (female dogs) (Najam al Huda p53 Rohani Khazain vol 14 p53). And this is while they have as their slogan displayed all over their cars, "Love for all hatred for none". The deception here is clear to see.

How can this even be called a religion? It is an insult to the word religion.

In effect you are opposing Allah, His messenger Muhammad :saws:, his previous messengers, the Qur'an, the hadeeth, the sahaabah (may Allah be pleased with them). In effect, you are revoking your entire Islam, your entire imaan, your entire deen.

He claims to be God, and claims to be every prophet, and is abusive and insultive and obscene. There are many things that are not suitable for putting into print or uttering from one's mouth. And there are many other things that should be included , but will make the post too long. This is just a taster, and a drop in the ocean. The sources are the books he himself has written, or authored by his son.

When you stand up in front of them what you're trying to show them, is yes, I proudly accept all these beliefs of yours and more. Yes, I proudly oppose Allah and his messengers, and the sahaabah and the Qur'an and the sunnah.
 
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Insaanah said:
He claims to be God, and claims to be every prophet, and is abusive and insultive and obscene. There are many things that are not suitable for putting into print or uttering from one's mouth. And there are many other things that should be included , but will make the post too long. This is just a taster, and a drop in the ocean. The sources are the books he himself has written, or authored by his son.
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It was simply a cult created by the Brits to stop the Jihad against them when they occupied India, they bribed this patsy and propagated their agenda, incidentally when there was a strong interest in Islam in Germany with its rise amongst white Germans they funded Ahmadi institutions to stray people there from the proper message. I have never had a favorable view of the Brits but this is one of their many methods of dividing and conquering. There's nothing to think - Islam goes with nature it isn't convoluted. If people stop the pretenses they'd feel better so why all this modern day and age?

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