Atheism's Opposition with Nature..

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No it has everything to do with you missing the point or not understanding the metaphors.
The whole point of Bobbie's storytelling was to dumb down and visually demonstrate certain logic. Even some liberal theologians think it is pretty good in doing just that and getting people to explore serious philosophy.

The unicorn is pink because there is nothing more absurd than insisting on an invisible thing to have a color. Pink is also a nice shrilly fluffy color. The FSM is made of spaghetti for the same absurdity and because its followers like spaghetti. It is a metaphor for adding unnecessary traits to a deity for the sole reason of I like them or I like it more that way.
People didn't chose to follow malevolent gods or converted to such religions they follow the nice ones. The reasoning starts at some creator thingy. Traits are added that in the end make it a caring, omni-everything, human centric, loving, forgiving deity. There is also nothing above it.

The rest of the letter and the gospel is a lot of absurd evidence with funny but absurd conclusions and ending up with the 8 really nice I'd rather you do nots and a very tasty deity. Because the FSM adds other absurd traits while dropping some common ones like perfection which in many ways make it even more easily defendable.
The whole point of it is to be absurd otherwise it has no demonstrating effect and would just be seen as another "serious" religion by those who the letter initially tried to address. If you complain about it being absurd, you really are missing the point of the message. It is not supposed to promote a reasonable religion, it is supposed to demonstrate what weird stuff one can come up with using what goes in some settings (like Christian fundamentalism) for reason and logic.
It is the same as trying to teach a Math student what happens if one ignores all the rules like * before + and surrounding brackets and what not.


I can do non quick fix answer too, but hinting on the solution generally has more lasting effects if it yields any, than laying everything out there already chewed-for. It is not like there are so many possibilites for why an invisible pink unicorn should be pink and invisible.
 
No it has everything to do with you missing the point or not understanding the metaphors.
The whole point of Bobbie's storytelling was to dumb down and visually demonstrate certain logic. Even some liberal theologians think it is pretty good in doing just that and getting people to explore serious philosophy.
No, not missing the point and there are no metaphors what it is, is nothing more than a childish travesty whereby you dodge the deep questions that are sure to plague all man kind. It is dumb I'll give you that much and not an exchange to explore more 'serious philosophy' rather exchange to complete non-philosophy!

The unicorn is pink because there is nothing more absurd than insisting on an invisible thing to have a color. Pink is also a nice shrilly fluffy color. The FSM is made of spaghetti for the same absurdity and because its followers like spaghetti. It is a metaphor for adding unnecessary traits to a deity for the sole reason of I like them or I like it more that way.
People didn't chose to follow malevolent gods or converted to such religions they follow the nice ones. The reasoning starts at some creator thingy. Traits are added that in the end make it a caring, omni-everything, human centric, loving, forgiving deity. There is also nothing above it.

As stated prior and I really hate to repeat myself on the account you've nothing substantive to offer:
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The argument for God doesn't deal with the nature of God, that is in fact another topic which you can't gauge if you don't accept the premise, and you can't introduce your own idea of said creator without providing evidence to why we should collectively draw that same conclusion! The Onus therefore is on the atheist to prove that unicorns and spaghetti are the creator!

Grow up, you really need to collectively grow up I don't think anyone finds you amusing, informative, clever whatever it is you think you're doing here and patting yourself on the back you rather confirm all the stereotypes folks have of atheists and if you had any sense at all you'd know that it isn't flattery on our part nor cleverness on yours! - you're not even fit for an off off Broadway shows!

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From what I am seeing from the last two pages, this seems like a theism vs atheism debate.

I'll start reading this to see what everyone is getting on about. Why can't we stay quiet about this issue and keep it to ourselves?
 
It would be great if we could, but we are talking about religions here that have a strong tendency to have followers who seek to push their views on the rest of us and shape society to fit it.
 
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Not [SIZE=-1]quite sure I understand how religions with [SIZE=-1]'strong followers' are tending to '[SIZE=-1]push their views' [SIZE=-1]- unless the intended religion here is indeed atheism?
This is an Islamic forum and the only ones raising objections as far as th[SIZE=-1]is thread is concerned are atheists the likes of 'Dusk' [SIZE=-1](see previous)

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Hi Dusk,
Sorry to cut in here. In all fairness, I'm not a person who would even dream of denying the usefullness of an "argument ad absurdum". The problem however is not with the validity of the argument (i.e. pointing out the eronous logic some might have). The problem is that there's a current mentality of religion-bashing and people tend to take the argument ad absurdum much further and like pygoscelis pointed out attempt to ridicule religion as a whole. An example of that is saying that people assign attributes to God because they want to. Surely it would be erronous to do so, and if it is merely your point to show that people are prone to such erronous logic, then that could be a valid point. However, the obvious implication you'r making is that: since humans are prone to such false logic (whish still isn't a proven premise), the religions we have today must all have been shaped in that way. If that's the argument you're making, you're far beyond slippery slope, you're just down to pure speculation...
And not only that, but you pretend to be taking the "intellectual highground"?

Now that's why FSM and pinky the uni are idiotic...
 
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