Class Dismissed.Malala,You have done your job well.

[جوري]

I and other sisters here from Pakistan recieve Education because Pakistan was founded in the name of Islam and the first Teacher of Islam Muhammad SAW made it obligatory on every Muslim men and women to receive education.

Hard to imagine that a religion whose first revealed verse is:

96:1 Read: In the name of thy Lord Who createth,

would have a need for a 14 year old to spearhead its education system or act as an example..and even that I would overlook if it were sincere, if it were an internal affair and not an international debacle!

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

Forget it

 

[CosmicPathos]

would have a need for a 14 year old to spearhead its education system or act as an example..and even that I would overlook if it were sincere, if it were an internal affair and not an international debacle!

the education system which is being modified, in which Islamic studies has been taken out or in process of being taken out, in which stories of jihad have been taken out, in which stories of wars against kufaar have been taking out, in which principles of aqaid have been taken out. And Malala was working for the same organization(s) which are implement the above changes. Hardly a praiseworthy task, referring to "sister harb" and others.

 

[CosmicPathos]

I don't think you can speak for all Pakistani seeing as you are fortunate to afford internet and all sort. So can you speak those that are poorer then you?

And you can speak for Pakistanis as a Somalian?

Our Founder was actually quite not that religious, as your propose to be. He most likely was a shia actually who married a zoroastrian. But our philosophical and ideological founder (Iqbal) was a sunni Muslim and one of the most important modern Islamic philosophers of 21st century.

And I dont speak your femi-nazi langauge, talk to us in English about Pakistanis curbing your God-given rights.

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

What organisation was she working for? Can you name it?
And there is still Islamic Education. Most the Islamic text here is from Pakistan.

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

And you can speak for Pakistanis as a Somalian?

Our Founder was actually quite not that religious, as your propose to be. He most likely was a shia actually who married a zoroastrian.

And I dont speak your femi-nazi langauge, talk to us in English about Pakistanis curbing your God-given rights.

I am mixed (half Somali) and was married to one for four years and I have been to Pakistan. And I wasnt the one that said your founder was religious. You are the perfect example of the attitude I was taking about. All people have to do is read your Posts related females.

 

[جوري]

the education system which is being modified, in which Islamic studies has been taken out or in process of being taken out, in which stories of jihad have been taken out, in which stories of wars against kufaar have been taking out, in which principles of aqaid have been taken out. And Malala was working for the same organization(s) which are implement the above changes. Hardly a praiseworthy task, referring to "sister harb" and others.

As with the vid. I posted yesterday by the son of the Jewish general, they de-arabized Palestine and de-Islamized it and looking to do the same with the rest of the Muslim world… and they have many a creative ways of doing it. Name calling, wars, genocides, brave little girls. etc. , etc.
They kidnap Palestinians as young as 3 indoctrinate them with their brand of history and change the books for the rest to completely erase their Palestinian Muslim identity and it is a systematic thing.. It is their vision for a 'New middle east' and a new Muslim world.. as to why Muslims are blind to this? well that's a question to the ages...

 

[CosmicPathos]

What organisation was she working for? Can you name it?
And there is still Islamic Education. Most the Islamic text here is from Pakistan.

Yea that text is from madrassa in Karachi.

I am talking about public education system. She was peripherally working for Higher Education Commission (HEC) which oversees all the syllabi development and reaches out to all sorts of NGOs for women education in a country where men are being delegated to menial jobs (taxi driving, donkey cart driving) because due to societal pressures to raise 5 sisters to get em married or to take care of their agining momma, they cant afford to go to school as boys, lads and men.

The most important book you can read, written by a woman:

The War Against Boys: How Misguided Feminism Is Harming Our Young Men


http://www.amazon.com/The-War-Against-Boys-Misguided/dp/product-description/0684849569

 

[جوري]

I am mixed and was married to one for four years and I have been to Pakistan.

I am sorry you'd a terrible experience sister, in shaa Allah, Allah swt will grant you that which is better!

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

Yea that text is from madrassa in Karachi.

I am talking about public education system. She was peripherally working for Higher Education Commission (HEC) which oversees all the syllabi development and reaches out to all sorts of NGOs for women education in a country where men are being delegated to menial jobs (taxi driving, donkey cart driving) because due to societal pressures to raise 5 sisters to get em married or to take care of their agining momma, they cant afford to go to school as boys, lads and men.

The most important book you can read, written by a woman:

The War Against Boys: How Misguided Feminism Is Harming Our Young Men


http://www.amazon.com/The-War-Against-Boys-Misguided/dp/product-description/0684849569

I don't understand how is female having education stopping male from gaining one. Even if all were to stay athow men would still have to provide for them. The problem is still there whether female go to school or not. I support education for both and it is about you should too.

 

[Periwinkle18]

malala again :S

guess its time to move on dont u think ??

May Allah protect us forgive us n make us do something for our deen inshaAllah Ameen

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

I don't understand how is female having education stopping male from gaining one. Even if all were to stay at men would still have to provide for them. The problem is still there whether female go to school or not. I support education for both and it is about you should too.

I think you dont understand this topic about feminist revolution and how it goes against islam, so its best to not discuss about it here.

We have fools in this topic, adults behaving like immatures. What do we gain from discussing about malala's case? Its what the media want, to let you all discuss about nonsense subjects like this. We have thousands of children of her age being killed by airstrikes from western countries, israel and russia. Yet we see this one topic show up, because the mass media reports it, this shows that you guys all need to wake up.

I want to see topics arise about western-made crimes in muslim countries and how they managed to destroy the caliphate and divide and conquer. Yet only a few members here post about them. The fitnah today is huge, the only solution is imaan and taqwa, only that. May Allah grant us all the ability to see from our heart. Ameen

 

[Periwinkle18]

^ ameen

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

Forget it

 

[~Zaria~]

Do not you think if we are to be okay with "different views" of other Muslims, the division has already started?

It does not make sense to me that you want Muslims to have different opinions and then expect them to not divide/split? How is that even possible? Having a different opinion is the first split.

We are all different people. And no one is expected to think the same about different aspects of life. This is what makes us individuals.

The example of the 4 madhabs is indeed appropiate to mention.

The very fact that we need to be tolerant of different interpretations of Quraan and Sunnah, shows us that we can also have differences in opinion in matters relating to this dunya - without talking about divisions and splits.

(and on a side note I am yet to meet one south African who is not white or Jewish if you don't belong to either of those then I have an understanding of the oppression your country endured and how it impacts your world views & sympathy to the underdog or as so appears in this case)

Whites and Jews constitute a minority of this country, and I belong to neither.
My racial group has absolutely nothing to do with my previous comments about Nelson Mandela.

- No one here knows me to hide my intentions whether with friends or foes or hide behind a veil of sanctimonious diplomacy.
This might not be an acceptable method for you but that's just who I am at the end of the day I am looking to be honest as that is what Allah swt asked me to do, I am not requested to lie or be nice or not say it like it is to be liked. Being liked or respected is a nice bonus in life but certainly not an injunction!
As for the criteria of hypocrites per ahadith, then there are tons of ahadith and verses on the matter that aren't listed in the one hadith you provided such as:
Verily, I fear for this Ummat every such munaafiq who will speak with wisdom and perpetrate, injustice.

The most fearsome object which I fear for my Ummat is every such

munaafiq who has the ability of eloquent expression.

Again, this has nothing to do with my previous comments.
I have made my thoughts known with regards to name-calling of members on this forum.
There is nothing more that I can add to this.

I'd be happy to share more if you require and at any rate I shared one such hadith in the previous thread- however, telling lies and proving treacherous indeed fit the bill from the first thread as per my comment here!

Please provide a reference to the hadith quoted in the previous thread. Thus far, I have been unable to find it, apart from a few Shia sites.

Firstly your history on the forum isn't as long as ours and you've to trust as you do the more senior doctors in your job that some by virtue of experience alone know things that you don't! and secondly there were posts that were deleted from that particular thread which you didn't see, so why the exasperation and annoyance especially when asking us to supposedly referain from the same type behavior and close the thread up?

Your analogy to senior doctors is not fitting......unless you are an expert on the political situation in Pakistan, and more especially SWAT.

The previous thread was closed by the mods, for good measure.
Nothing new has been revealed in this thread regarding Malalas case, apart from ongoing speculations supported by absolutely no evidence.

For those who wish to continue to harbour doubts and suspicions regards the intentions behinds Malalas campaign, so be it.
Do fear Allah though, especially when these are currently based on little fact.

Allah (subhanawataála) is the final judge in all matters.
And this is all that matters.


:wa:

 

[جوري]

Whites and Jews constitute a minority of this country, and I belong to neither.
My racial group has absolutely nothing to do with my previous comments about Nelson Mandela.

I have not read the part in your post to do with Nelson- that is my impression of you in general- I only read the parts to do with me personally as you seem to take it personally when it isn't a personal issue!

Again, this has nothing to do with my previous comments.
I have made my thoughts known with regards to name-calling of members on this forum.
There is nothing more that I can add to this.

It isn't name calling to make an observation of hypocrisy and alert others to it if they'd not already figured the intent on their own!
I have asserted that it takes more than one form or trait outside those you're familiar with.
You don't learn of the prophet Moses (p) from just one surah and likewise you don't learn of the traits of hypocrites or the definition from just one hadith and then ask us to point to you which we find most befitting!

Please provide a reference to the hadith quoted in the previous thread. Thus far, I have been unable to find it, apart from a few Shia sites.

And you figured it is from a shia site even though it was in Arabic and I the one who took the liberty to translate it for you when you couldn't do it yourself through google translate by what means?

Your analogy to senior doctors is not fitting......unless you are an expert on the political situation in Pakistan, and more especially SWAT.

The analogy is quite fitting else by the same token it isn't fitting for you to comment here either- Sr. Endymion is from Pakistan and currently residing there and giving a detailed account of the story or at least the other side of the coin which you refuse to accept resigning to your own expertise on the situation!
Why should we close the thread and rebuff aside what she says when it seems so obviously contrived and reeks or mal-intent?

The previous thread was closed by the mods, for good measure.
Nothing new has been revealed in this thread regarding Malalas case, apart from ongoing speculations supported by absolutely no evidence.

what exactly constitutes evidence in your book and how are you a better judge than the folks who live there?

For those who wish to continue to harbour doubts and suspicions regards the intentions behinds Malalas campaign, so be it.
Do fear Allah though, especially when these are currently based on little fact.

One wouldn't be a good Muslim if one didn't review their own actions, and one isn't a good Muslim with ongoing doggedness, and one wouldn't be a good Muslim if simply taking things from kaffir accounts at face value.
in shaa Allah we review ourselves and ask for forgiveness and pray to Allah swt to accept our repentance but what does this have to do with having doubts to the veracity of the intent, purpose, creation of the story? Am I receiving passive transmission or active purposeful creation?

Allah (subhanawataála) is the final judge in all matters.
And this is all that matters.

Indeed.. and indeed Allah swt has equipped the Muslim with reason so that he's not bitten from the same hole twice..

 

[Muhammad]

I will close this thread as this thread seems to be going downhill.

Let us remember that the blessed days of Dhul Hijjah will soon be upon us, and it is all the more reason we should keep away from arguments and unnecessary speech.