Palestine is Ours.

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Almost two-thirds of the UN's member states – representing more than 75% of the world's population – already formally recognise the Palestinian state in some form, according to analysis by the Guardian.The countries that recognise Palestine comprise around 5.5bn of the world's population of 7bn – more than 75% – but based on World Bank GDP figures make up less than 10% of the world's economy, highlighting the global rift on what remains a highly contentious topic. Countries which do not yet formally recognise Palestine are overwhelmingly concentrated in western Europe and North America. No western European democracy currently recognises Palestine as a state, but some newer EU members have previously recognised statehood.
 
“Serfs they (the Jews) were in the lands of the Diaspora, and suddenly they find themselves in freedom [in Palestine]; and this change has awakened in them an inclination to despotism. They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause, and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination.”
Zionist writer Ahad Ha’am, quoted in Sami Hadawi, “Bitter Harvest.”
 
let's make sure Allah recognizes it - then we won't have to worry.
see the other Arab league governments - they neglected Allah and sought the recognition of enemies of Islam to the extent that they compromised the very principles of Islam in order to comply with the "rules",
now they're struggling to stay in power.

anyone looking at the requirements of the u.n in order to be a "member state" would know that you have to reject Allah to be even recognised as a member.

the u.n security council shall have "supreme authority" and "rule".

Allah has Supreme Authority and Eternal Rule.

and verily the Earth belongs to Allah, He gives it to whom He pleases of His servants.
and the End is for the Muttaqeen
 
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Abz2000 said:
let's make sure Allah recognizes it - then we won't have to worry.
see the other Arab league governments - they neglected Allah and sought the recognition of enemies of Islam to the extent that they compromised the very principles of Islam in order to comply with the "rules",
now they're struggling to stay in power.

anyone looking at the requirements of the u.n in order to be a "member state" would know that you have to reject Allah to be even recognised as a member.

the u.n security council shall have "supreme authority" and "rule".

Allah has Supreme Authority and Eternal Rule.

and verily the Earth belongs to Allah, He gives it to whom He pleases of His servants.
and the End is for the Muttaqeen
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And how do we ensure that Allah recognizes it, Sidi?
 
and verily the Earth belongs to Allah, He gives it to whom He pleases of His servants.
and the End is for the Muttaqeen

Just to clarify, is it your belief that allah will grant muslims more power on earth?
 
I think muslims are fairly powerful on earth now, they hold a lot of the worlds suply of oil. A lot of them are very rich, im not sure what the wealth distribution within these countries is like though. Obviously some of the more islamic countries seem to be having a lot of political turmoil recently aswell. To cut a long story short i simply dont know.
 
and as for me having all the answers to everything, i cant answer what your belief is only you know that. Thats why i was curious to know if you think allah gives power to people on earth and selects who he likes.
 
paulpablo said:
and as for me having all the answers to everything, i cant answer what your belief is only you know that. Thats why i was curious to know if you think allah gives power to people on earth and selects who he likes.
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That's a Jewish understanding. There's no such thing as 'God's chosen', or God dying to eat man's sins to they can have a carte blanch people have to work on what they desire to achieve in this world and the next!

best,
 
The question was aimed at the abz, who posted "and verily the Earth belongs to Allah, He gives it to whom He pleases of His servants."
and the End is for the Muttaqeen "
But i apreciate your input. It seems to deviate with how abz sees things.
 
Not really we all see it exactly the same way and the verse isn't in conflict with that. Allah swt bequeaths the earth to his righteous servants!
ABZ is quite busy at the moment, but I'll send him a message on your behalf, I know he'll be anxious to get back to you. :)
 
i was curious to know if you think allah gives power to people on earth and selects who he likes. Was the question i asked, You said "That's a Jewish understanding. There's no such thing as 'God's chosen',Now you say "Allah swt bequeaths the earth to his righteous servants!"Do you see no conflict in those two statements?
 
No I don't! God's righteous servants per verse are those who strive to do good, who abide by his commandments, it isn't a birth right, nor through some intercessor!
Perhaps there's something wrong with the way you process information? Some statements are considered an elaboration not a contravention!

best,
 
Hello,

Are there verses in the Quran or the Hadiths indicating that God gave the land of Palestine to
Muslims for their inheritance?

Thanks,
Jim
 
I wrote this on another thread and hope it helps:

شَادِنُ;1553463 said:
the land of Palestine was "supposedly" promised to the seed of
Abraham. If one researches the Ancient Hebrew laws, the right of decent or
inheritance is based on the eldest son, no matter whom the mother is. If
this is the case, then the land was promised to Ishamel (for he was the
eldest of Abraham's sons) and the Father of Palestinian Arabs. In addition,
modern day Jews from Russia, Poland and most parts of Eastern Europe have NO
genetic link to the ancient Hebrews - they for the most part are decendents
of Khazars, who converted to Judaism in the 7th century (this has been
documented by Jewish scholars, not Arabs). The modern day Palestinians can
claim a more direct link to the Hebrew tribes than the founders of modern day
"Israel." What the Western Press purposely avoids mentioning is the fact
that at the start of the 20th century, less than 5% of the land of Palestine
was Jewish. The modern State of Israel was built on lands illegally taken and
assimilated from Palestinian Christians and Muslims. Also, the Hebrews only
ruled the land of Palestine for a combined 411 years - the Muslims have ruled
the land for 1,500 years. In addition, the land of Canaan (Palestine) had a
history long before the Jewish tribes immigrated to the area.
Abraham PBUH BOUGHT a land from the people of Canaan to bury Sarah and he wasn't some Polish Jew, he's from what is known as modern day Iraq and his ancestry is from what is modern day Yemen. We can't say that about any of the squatters or the terrorists that brought them the 'Haganah, Irgun and Stern gang'
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شَادِنُ;1554492 said:
I wrote this on another thread and hope it helps:
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Thank you for this information. Yes. It did explain some of your belief.

Jacob had 12 sons, the first being Reuben. From what is written in the Old Testament, they each inherited
a portion. Reuben did not obtain the entire country. In fact, he didn't even obtain the largest piece - I think
that went to Judah or the combined parts of east and west for Manasseh (of Joseph). I have heard of the
right of the firstborn, which Reuben originally had and then he lost it to Ephraim/Manasseh, but this did not
give entire land ownership rights.

On the Muslim side, I was hoping for more of a scriptural basis on Ishmael's inheritance.

Thanks,
Jim
 
theplains said:
Thank you for this information. Yes. It did explain some of your belief.

Jacob had 12 sons, the first being Reuben. From what is written in the Old Testament, they each inherited
a portion. Reuben did not obtain the entire country. In fact, he didn't even obtain the largest piece - I think
that went to Judah or the combined parts of east and west for Manasseh (of Joseph). I have heard of the
right of the firstborn, which Reuben originally had and then he lost it to Ephraim/Manasseh, but this did not
give entire land ownership rights.

On the Muslim side, I was hoping for more of a scriptural basis on Ishmael's inheritance.

Thanks,
Jim
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Is there any more evidence that what I have just provided? Your failure to accept it isn't a basis for rejection!
Also, we're not speaking of Jacob we're speaking of Abraham for he's the father of monotheism, and his first born is Ishamel. I am glad however however that you acknowledge Jacob's kids for reasons all together different for they were with the exception of Joseph and Benjamin I believe born to his handmaid Zilpah. I don't see them disowned there for being children of handmaiden- do you?.
Be that as it may the bible has very little credibility all together (against its own self)so it would render this whole conversation on inheritance per the so-called Judeo/Christians moots as per what you yourself provided above unknowingly.
Feel free to take the christian quiz yourself here:
http://exchristian.net/3/

And again, none of the modern day Jews can claim any link to the original tribes. Those original tribes are middle easterners and so they should look like middle easterners.
Canaan belongs to the canaanites and they're the people who have always been, Jews, then christians then Muslim they didn't come from Russia nor Khazar.
I think the ultimate evidence which is biblical and in your own book if you read it is that Abraham bought a land from those Canaanites.. what does that symbolize in your mind? that the land belonged to him?
As for Islamic sources on the matter. There are loads. Try reading suret Al'Israa for starters..
and if you've the time and interested in a very long read which will also include prophecies on Israel/ Palestine/ Iraq/ Syria etc.

then here you go:
http://islamworld.net/docs/hour/index.htm

best,
 
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