Why doesn't Allah wants us to enjoy this Dunya?

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Were only going to live on Earth once. Who knows if were going to see the Technology again. I mean I know alot of people who are really nice people. just trying to survive the harsh economy. People work all week long, shouldn't they have a day or two to relax and enjoy. Just because people who don't believe the same as me and you believe doesn't make them a bad person. There are far more disbeilivers out there who are more nice then some Muslims I know.
 
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huh? we are kinds demanded to enjoy the dunya. just not the haram bits. what tech is haram? why can't you have 2 days off??

methinks you are missing something!

ma salaama
 
i often think the same,

why does the haram of this world almost describe the heaven of the next?

i think its because in this world our actions give cause for others to act the way they do.

although you enjoy the butterfly flapping its wings you dont see the hurricane it causes somewhere else.


i guess it is why i am afraid of my words, actions and sins.
 
why does the haram of this world almost describe the heaven of the next?

Are you sure of this statement my respected and noble brother?

"the haram of this world almost describe the heaven of the next" for Allah's sake; what are ya saying?
 
really?

would you have me sit on a throne?

with clothes better than any i had given away?

with places with adornments and gold? when my ring was made of silver?

with women who had not been touched by men or jinns?

when i had not even looked? and kept away from?

alcohol? not even in my days away from my family and those that knew me did i do those things.



you are right though.

..the difference is that some people are naturally good.

..and others have to act so.


but if you are my judges then why did i even bother.

and if with you was the reward then understand i feel like iv already been judged.

kind regards.


lol at least you know what is in a persons heart, i just told you.


but it does not escape it.
 
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with clothes better than any i had given away?

with places with adornments and gold? when my ring was made of silver?

You'll forgive my saying so but every time I take a moment to read your writing I find myself questioning what exactly you'd been smoking!

best,
 
lol

yeah its not a problem,

i guess its easier to just talk about things when your managing to get along.

but if you went out to look for something and became worse of for it.. then its a life shattering experience.


likened much to those of psychosis or drug induced delusions.


i feel very much like im attention whoring, it is not good.
 
No No , in shaa Allah he is noble and respected and I think that our brother have misunderstood and has written than thought based on the wrong concept he has... laa ilaha illa Allah... your words above O brother brought tears to my eyes and sadness to my heart for thinking like that about The Creator The Most Perfect Whom belong to Him all Might and Majesty...O Allah, all Praise and Glory be to You...

what you will get from haram things but bad things...!!! can't ya understand that there is a wisdom behind every single rule and order of Allah?

brother, Allah knows but we don't He Is The All Knower The Wise ...I wish you do read Qur'aan and hadiths carefully and know who is Allah...

May Allah guide us all and keep us guided and firm on His straight path Ameeeen

and btw, Allah doesn't prevent us from enjoying this dunay but He wants us too but in the right way ; and if you would be close to Allah; adhering to the religion of Allah rightly then you will enjoy this dunya and see the beauty in everything and in everywhere...laa ilaha illa Allah .

To Allah we belong and to Him we will return.
 
really?


with women who had not been touched by men or jinns?

huh?

when i had not even looked? and kept away from?

..the difference is that some people are naturally good.

..and others have to act so.

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if you are saying that it is easier for some to do good that it is for others, just think of all of the extra ajr you get for your struggles!

just because you think that something is good, such as ease of virtue, doesn't mean that Allah won't reward you for struggles. it might be better for you!

and Allah knows best!

ma salaama
 
your absolutely right,

thinking like that only makes you blind to the things allah swt has given.

but its all a test for you anyway.

wealth.

wives.

children.

you name it.

so basically the only reason i refrain from all that is wrong in me is because of a book not in my language and a man that was the closest to god pbuh.


its a very strange way to live your life but if you have not lived at the extremes its probably a lot easier to not look inside.

lol at least i look pious.


...probably
 
My noble and respected brother, life is a test and I am sure that you are good from inside...

please, forgive me if saying anything wrong to ya , never meant to hurt ya ever , I really want happiness for ya and all good (and if I the creature wants this for ya then what about The Most Merciful)??

we need to be patient to reach the end of the road; we all suffered and still suffering but all that go away when Allah Is everything to ya...

it is not my right to judge ya cause I am not Allah but it is my duty from Allah to think good about ya and no matter what you are my brother whom I love for him what I love for ma self...

May Allah ease your way and make all your sadness and troubles go away Ameeeeeeeen

again, forgive me if have done anything wrong to ya...May Alah forgive us all Ameeeeeen
 
no, its a passing feeling.

il be back to slightly less incoherent and the pretence of knowledge in no time.

but i guess if anybody can relate then its a hope of forgiveness that drives you.

for our past sins, actions and words.
 
The rulings (ahkaam) of this world are not like the rulings of the Hereafter. The wine of this world causes people to lose their minds, unlike the good wine of the Hereafter which does not make people lose their minds or cause headaches or stomachaches. What Allaah has prepared for the believers of women on the Day of Resurrection as a reward for their obedience is not like zinaa which violates people’s honour, confuses lineages, spreads diseases and leads to regret. The women of Paradise are pure and good and they are wives for the believers there; they will never die or get old, unlike the women of this world. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, We have created them (maidens) of special creation.

And made them virgins.

Loving (their husbands only), (and) of equal age”

[al-Waaqi’ah 56:35]

We ask Allaah to bless us with the best of this world and the next, and to help us to be obedient to His commands and to have certain faith in His reward and to keep us safe from His punishment. And Allaah knows best.

return to the following link and read in shaa Allah:

http://islamqa.info/en/ref/4994
 
Allah taught us in Qur'aan Surat Al Qassass:

"But seek, through that which Allah has given you, the home of the Hereafter; and [yet], do not forget your share of the world. And do good as Allah has done good to you. And desire not corruption in the land. Indeed, Allah does not like corrupters." (77)


﴿وَابْتَغِ فِيمَآ ءَاتَاكَ اللَّهُ الدَّارَ الاٌّخِرَةَ وَلاَ تَنسَ نَصِيبَكَ مِنَ الدُّنْيَا﴾

(But seek, with that which Allah has bestowed on you, the home of the Hereafter, and forget not your portion of lawful enjoyment in this world;) means, `use this great wealth and immense blessing Allah has given you to worship your Lord and draw closer to Him by doing a variety of good deeds which will earn you reward in this world and the Hereafter.'

﴿وَلاَ تَنسَ نَصِيبَكَ مِنَ الدُّنْيَا﴾

(and forget not your portion of lawful enjoyment in this world;) `That which Allah has permitted of food, drink, clothing, dwelling places and women. Your Lord has rights over you, your self has rights over you, your family has rights over you, and your visitors have rights over you. So give each of them their due.'

﴿وَأَحْسِن كَمَآ أَحْسَنَ اللَّهُ إِلَيْكَ﴾

(and be generous as Allah has been generous to you, ) `Be generous to His creatures, as He has been generous to you.'

﴿وَلاَ تَبْغِ الْفَسَادَ فِى الاٌّرْضِ﴾

(and seek not mischief in the land.) meaning: `do not let your aim be to spread corruption on earth and do harm to Allah's creation.'

﴿إِنَّ اللَّهَ لاَ يُحِبُّ الْمُفْسِدِينَ﴾
(Verily, Allah likes not the mischief-makers.)
 
really?

would you have me sit on a throne?

with clothes better than any i had given away?

with places with adornments and gold? when my ring was made of silver?

with women who had not been touched by men or jinns?

when i had not even looked? and kept away from?

alcohol? not even in my days away from my family and those that knew me did i do those things.



you are right though.

..the difference is that some people are naturally good.

..and others have to act so.


but if you are my judges then why did i even bother.

and if with you was the reward then understand i feel like iv already been judged.

kind regards.


lol at least you know what is in a persons heart, i just told you.


but it does not escape it.

Asalaamu Alaikum,

The things you mentioned cause us harm one way or another. For example, alcohol in Jannah won't make you drunk (have any side effects) like it does in Dunya.
 
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yep, your right.

cant remember all the verses relating to heaven but i remember the bit about alcohol and gambling.

like i said, find some drunk people and understand what happens.


scientist at heart so thats my natural thought process.


...the bit about harm is another subject altogether.


see the testing, affliction and calamities thread.


puts the fear of god into me.
 
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yep, your right.

cant remember all the verses relating to heaven but i remember the bit about alcohol and gambling.

like i said, find some drunk people and understand what happens.


scientist at heart so thats my natural thought process.


...the bit about harm is another subject altogether.

Bro who made these things forbidden in the first place?

All we know about jannah are the equivalent of the names of things from this world. Alcohol in jannah will not harm us but will be a source of complete pleasure and enjoyment in the next life. And since all of jannah is what no eye has seen and no ear has heard it is wrong to liken the alcohol of this world to the next as they are not one and the same.

In this world, never does Allah forbid something but that He gives us an alternative replacement that is either equal or better than it. Jannah is paradise, the eternal bliss where nothing can ever go wrong so what we enjoy there will never harm us – unlike the alcohol of this world.

And this is also in close relation to the answer to the original poster. Allah does not "forbid enjoyment" because everything in the heavens and earth is made for mankind. Of the biggest evidence is that everything in the universe is in perfect harmony: we have food and drink that is suitable for us to eat from that is vital for our existence in this world, spouses in whom we find rest and peace and homes that provide shelter from the alternating weather. Did this happen by sheer luck?

Among the numerous verses in Qur'an Allah says:

Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? And We have placed on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them, and We placed therein broad highways for them to pass through, that they may be guided. And We have made the heaven a roof, safe and well guarded. Yet they turn away from its signs (i.e. sun, moon, winds, clouds, etc.). And He it is Who has created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit floating.

(21:30-33)

This is but just one of the proofs that show everything is created for mankind. In addition to this, all forms of pleasure are permitted except for those that are forbidden by Allah. Relations with the opposite gender is forbidden but it is made permissible through the bonds marriage, pork is forbidden but a lot of other animals like cows, camel and sheep are allowed and even music is forbidden because the better alternative is listening to the words of Allah, something that will really give you calm and peace in your heart.

Never think of Allah as being unjust because He is Al Hakeem (The Most Wise) and all what Allah decrees is best, even if we cannot perceive it. Allah will not force you away from things that are inherent in you as a human but you just need to know how He wants you to behave.
 
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so lets test perception vs law.

hows the practice of multiple wives viewed this century?

if your married ask your mrs.


or your parents.


...or yourself.


so much is not what it was. keep going anyway... you may not think my answer relevant to your post.
 
hows the practice of multiple wives viewed this century?
I'd say less favorable than having multiple affairs and multiple kids out of wedlock.. strange world ain't it?
Perhaps if people were more honest with themselves and their partners they wouldn't be so worried about who is saying what behind their back!

best,
 
so lets test perception vs law.

hows the practice of multiple wives viewed this century?

if your married ask your mrs.


or your parents.


...or yourself.


so much is not what it was. keep going anyway.

In fairness that has nothing to do with anything but if you must know then know that the laws of Allah do not change because of time and place. The laws of non-Muslim are subjective and will continue to change until the end of time. The UK may not view plural marriages as legal, nor may one's spouse desire it or even parents but does that mean we change these law? If we did that then we would be no different then every other law that is subject to the whims of people.

During the reign of Hitler, and like many other European countries at one point, homosexuals would be prosecuted but now Germany, like their counterparts, is pro homosexual. The age of sexual consent in Cyprus is 17, in the UK it's 16, Czech Republic is 15, in Germany it's 14 whereas in Spain it's 13! Who's wrong and who's right here? Indeed, the paths to misguidance are many!

The laws of Allah never change because they are perfect, regardless of what one's spouse or parents or the world in general think. What weight do they hold besides the Law Giver?
 

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