Are the sisters getting it right?

[Qurratul Ayn]

Why would anyone choose to be a slave to a deity? Why would any deity worth worshiping require such obedience under threat of eternal pain? I really don't get it.

Why don't you check out the sections New Muslims & Discover Islam, they may be able to help you understand, even if it is a little bit

Read other sources rather than wholly relying on the media

 

[Ramadan90]

Like the one on the left ?

Another troll? *side-eye*

You need to check your facts. Islam is all about justice. What people do and what Islam says is diffrent.

 

[MrSlave]

You need to check your facts. Islam is all about justice. What people do and what Islam says is diffrent.

That sounds like a cop-out to me. Islam is perfect but people interpret it wrongly? Is that what you mean?

 

[Futuwwa]

That is Maryam. You sound a little threatened by her stance. Why would anyone choose to be a slave to a deity?

Slavery is not chosen, it is just a state that is. If there's a choice involved, it is not slavery.

If we postulate an omnipotent deity, it follows that everyone is a slave of that deity. Omnipotence implies absolute power, which negates the freedom of everyone else. You are not free if anything you do, anything at all, will only happen if God allows it. At most, you'll have the illusion of freedom simply because of God's apparent choice not to stop you.

 

[hur575]

Another troll? *side-eye*

You need to check your facts. Islam is all about justice. What people do and what Islam says is diffrent.

is this post aimed at me?? you calling me troll??

 

[جوري]

If she were still a Muslim, I doubt she would be allowed to be so vocal.

Oh and who would stop her? I have only ever seen Non-Muslims vocal in bad manners, debuachery, *****dom, and acrid useless sarcasm. Not everyone wishes to behave like an animal but I doubt anyone really cares.. What concerns the clouds from the barking of the dogs?

best,

 

[جوري]

That is Maryam. You sound a little threatened by her stance. Why would anyone choose to be a slave to a deity? .

Better than slavery to a system at least with :Allah: :swt: we get to keep our dignity and he ever elevates us for it. His law establishes beyt al'mal.. what does a kaffir system establish?

Oh yes, physicists and engineers bagging groceries or are homeless whereas wh0res make millions for passing out their sex tapes.. If that's your brand of freedom then thanks but no thanks.

 

[Ramadan90]

is this post aimed at me?? you calling me troll??

Wrong person. Sorry

 

[Ramadan90]

That sounds like a cop-out to me. Islam is perfect but people interpret it wrongly? Is that what you mean?

That is exactly what I said. It is not a cop-out, it is the truth.

 

[MrSlave]

At least the kaffir system, with all its imperfections can produce physicists. Tell me what Islam has contributed to the advancement of science over the last few hundred years.

 

[MrSlave]

That is exactly what I said. It is not a cop-out, it is the truth.

It is your truth. It is not mine. It also negates any criticism of your faith.

 

[Futuwwa]

At least the kaffir system, with all its imperfections can produce physicists. Tell me what Islam has contributed to the advancement of science over the last few hundred years.

Tell me how many great scientists Western civilization produced during the Early Middle Ages

 

[Scimitar]

Mr Deity,

as you can see here, the sisters on this forum can more than rebuttal an attempt to undermine their freedoms. They are critical thinkers here, and are able to determine the wests attempt claim that the Muslim women have no rights

Some orthodox study into Islam will enlighten you to the fact that Muslim women have more rights over their men than vice versa. Not just that, but also the very fact that women in Muslim countries are not second class citizens.

As for apostate shills who claim they know more about Islamic rulings than scholars do, they can take a hike - we're just simply not interested in wasting our precious time discussing matters of absolutely no importance to us, nor do they affect our lives in the slightest.

Truth be told, the pic posted on a previous page defining equality and justice, about spells it our for me.

Scimi

 

[MrSlave]

From what I can gather, you are stating that you are free to be slaves to Allah and are very good at defending the inequalities that are most apparant to us shill apostates. I never said that Muslim women have no rights, but even you must admit that in some Islamic theocracies, their rights are negligible. Do you defend Saudi Arabia as a progressive model of Islam?

As I see it, faith is an accident of birth. Allah seems to leave Christians well alone and vice versa.

 

[Ramadan90]

At least the kaffir system, with all its imperfections can produce physicists. Tell me what Islam has contributed to the advancement of science over the last few hundred years.

Okey, you are obviously ignorant. I have no time for nonsense. Bye!

 

[Futuwwa]

From what I can gather, you are stating that you are free to be slaves to Allah and are very good at defending the inequalities that are most apparant to us shill apostates. I never said that Muslim women have no rights, but even you must admit that in some Islamic theocracies, their rights are negligible. Do you defend Saudi Arabia as a progressive model of Islam?

Well, see my first post in this thread. I recognize that I am a slave, and that the very existence of an omnipotent deity implies as much.

As I see it, faith is an accident of birth. Allah seems to leave Christians well alone and vice versa.

You'll be amazed to find out that there actually are people who have chosen their own religion. I did. When she found out, my mother was not a happy camper.

 

[جوري]

are very good at defending the inequalities

And you're yet to define what those are don't you think?

 

[جوري]

At least the kaffir system, with all its imperfections can produce physicists. Tell me what Islam has contributed to the advancement of science over the last few hundred years.

the physicists in your kaffir system are Muslims. Go ahead to any hospital or company and see who its top scientests are!

best,

 

[جوري]

It would also pay if you'd some research btw before you write:

http://www.newscientist.com/article...fastest-scientific-growth-of-any-country.html

best,

 

[Scimitar]

Okey, you are obviously ignorant. I have no time for nonsense. Bye!

Allow me.

First of all Mr Deity,

If you'd studied comparative history, you'd know that those 6 million Jews who were apparently killed during WW2 was a false figure, the real fugure hovers somewhere between 240 - 280,000 killed. Whereas, if you look at the death toll of Muslims during just world war 1 - that far exceeded 6 million, and ww2 was worse. Let's travel back further, to say, the early 18th century yes?

Ever heard of a character named Charles Hempher? He was the British spy who posed as an Arab and befriended the Saud, he then went on to promise the Saud that he will make them Kings of Arabia if they helped the british government overthrow the Caliphate - you'd know this as the Ottoman Empire. The Caliphate is akin to the papacy in Rome. Muslims too are supposed to have a pope like figure - but you know what? since 1924, we haven't.

Ever since Hempher and his mottley crew of Northern Gog and Magogs entered into Arabian lands, they caused havoc everhwere, and the British plan to make the Arabian lands subservient to the Biritsh and now very Amercian interests, has fruited to ensure that the Muslims the world over are always on the back foot.

But you know, God's people always seem to be on the back foot...

....rigfht up til the last moment, and history is testament to that.

I'd ask you to reflect on an entire people, who had the rug pulled out from under them, and are now asked "where do you stand? and why?" that's bloody cheeky.

Scimi