I read everything posted in the thread.
Looking at the reply, I guess I'll opt for your lack of understanding it then.
First I was surprised that people here would be more upset about people insulting their religion than people killing and murdering in the name of their religion.
I'm certainly upset that anyone was killed without being tried in a Shariah court, as vigilantism isn't acceptable. But, at the same time, I'm upset that people are insulting my deen, for no reason whatsoever, only to cause many problems (sorry, but I'm not going to repeat it for the 3rd time).
No one is condoning either action here. We want justice to be served, but want it to be done within the limits of the Shariah.
Then I was surprised that you and others here have actually gone on to state and continue to maintain that it is good to murder people who insult your religion. And then you call your religion one seeking peace. Orwellian.
Once again, you didn't understand my post.
Difference between "murder" (unlawful killing) and execution (lawful killing). We only wish for these blasphemers to be tried within a Shariah court, and if proven guilty, to serve the absolute punishment for causing strife and chaos within the lands.
I've already also explained why Blasphemy is punishable for Islam. If it wasn't, or hate-speech for that matter wasn't, various groups and minorities would struggle to get a long in peace and tolerance. Laws and punishments are there to deter.
ow you post a link to a story about a guy who wrote how he wishes his country's soldiers to die and who was spared jail for it, and you somehow think that is comparable to people who mock your religion and get killed for it.
Insulting the Prophet(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) is an unimaginable number of times worst than insulting a few soldiers who follow the orders of a nation that has wrecked millions of lives and killed in the thousands.
Both of course, is something I condemn. I just wanted to show you the double standards. There's many cases in the UK (or the west) where people have actually been jailed for insulting.
There are of course horrible things done by western governments to Muslims (and other groups of people). The key difference here is that I don't endorse it.
That's good for you. But you need to understand why people (both western and Muslims) see insulting as a criminal offence. No one is against freedom of speech here, we're all happy with progressive dialogue. After all, how are Muslims going to give dawah to Non-Muslims if we don't answer their questions/concerns/criticisms?
But this is very much different to unprogressive, pointless acts, such as "draw Muhammad day", bomber cartoons, cheap videos with the purpose to insult and get a reaction from the Muslim community etc.
Western governments can get away with doing these things to muslims because they demonize Islam. They create images in people's minds of terrorism and hatred. People like the guy quoted in the post above start hating Islam and saying hateful things about Muslims. They put up adds like the ones in NYC subway in that other thread below. This is very troubling and I stand with you against it.
Blasphemy is hate speech.
Some of us non-muslims in the west would like to live in harmony and see this sort of fear and xenophobia stop. But you make that awfully hard when you show no concern about people murdering in the name of Islam, and in fact endorse the murder of those who insult Islam.
Every Muslim endorses the fact that the punishment for Blasphemy is execution. Sure, there's a difference of opinion in regards to repentance, and whether it was done by a non-Muslim etc.
But there is, none the less, punishment for it. And anyone who denies this is walking a very thin line.
