'Lads mags' and the disgraceful women in them

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InToTheRain said:
IMO OP you should take some initiative and hide the lads mags behind mags which other less interesting mags lets say the ones the bottom shelf. Of course get the shop owners consent which I am sure he/she will heartily agree to after the detrimental affect of these licentious mags have been explained.

GO GET EM OP
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that won't work. the profit from the magazines are split between vendor and distributor. In most cases, that's the entire value of the magazine. The magazine itself, makes its profits from ROP display advertising and classifieds section advertising sales and sponsorships.

So it would be in the vendors interest to have them sold, and in order to do so, they'd have to to "display" them, but out of reach of children and minors. Thus, this filth does exist - but if you know it does (on the top shelf) - why choose to look in the first place? Just don't. Simple as that. The OP, needs to lower his gaze and get a grip on his rant.

Scimi
 
I don't agree with that...do you know what will happen if he asks the shop keeper to take them down? I guarantee, the shop keeper will be some pen pusher, who upon seeing the muslim dress of this man, will automatically have his back up (due to negative propaganda through the media about muslims which is so rife these days),what will happen if the shopkeeper refuses to take them down...? he obviously thinks its ok because he put them up there in the first place..
guys I really don't think this is the right way to go about things...always remember we are in a secular country, not a muslim one...we want to promote islam In the best way possible...pushing your weight around trying to change things that are normal and ok here in the UK, especially if you're a revert, will backfire...all playing into the hands of tptb who are just waiting for a massive war between muslims and non muslims...don't bite the bait!!!
 
i dont agree with it either - because it wont work :D asking a corner store owner to hide the lads mags is like asking him to not sell alcohol and tobacco - NOT HAPPENING.
 
Scimitar said:
i dont agree with it either - because it wont work :D asking a corner store owner to hide the lads mags is like asking him to not sell alcohol and tobacco - NOT HAPPENING.
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But it's better if they put these lads mags in place that not easy to be seen by children.
 
And they are bro Ardianto, they place these magazines on the top shelf of magazine display units - even tall people have to arch their necks to see the covers - kids won't see them in most cases. It is against the law to display material unsuitable for minors in places where they can easily see it... hence, top shelf material only.

As for FHM and NUTS etc, these are middle shlef magazines, as they do not print full nudity on the front cover - living in Europe everyone knows that women in bikini's are not seen as naked - whereas if the same occurred in the east, they'd be seen as so.

Problem with the OP is that he is adopting old world mentality and trying to apply it to new world situations - it can work, but he clearly hasn't thought this thru properly. Hence, his OP became a rant that just didn't stop.

Scimi
 
Scimitar said:
that won't work. the profit from the magazines are split between vendor and distributor. In most cases, that's the entire value of the magazine. The magazine itself, makes its profits from ROP display advertising and classifieds section advertising sales and sponsorships.

So it would be in the vendors interest to have them sold, and in order to do so, they'd have to to "display" them, but out of reach of children and minors. Thus, this filth does exist - but if you know it does (on the top shelf) - why choose to look in the first place? Just don't. Simple as that. The OP, needs to lower his gaze and get a grip on his rant.

Scimi
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My statements were tongue in cheek :D however on a more serious note...
Bulk of what needs to be said has been said. Stop the demand and you stop the supply. Hard to achieve in this day and age though. It's so easy to sin with the eye these days; It's in the shops, phones and more of concern the internet so it's all instantly accessible 24/7.

However see it another way, the one who has more opportunity to sin and turns away surely has been given more opportunities to please Allah Most High and can expect great rewards for doing so. These are times of Fitnah; so control those eyes for the pleasure of Allah Most High.
 
Scimitar said:
And they are bro Ardianto, they place these magazines on the top shelf of magazine display units - even tall people have to arch their necks to see the covers - kids won't see them in most cases. It is against the law to display material unsuitable for minors in places where they can easily see it... hence, top shelf material only.
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But the OP said he can see these mags whenever he goes to supermarket. It's means they don't hide these mags well. And kids can see too.

I don't want pictures like that make my sons see women as sexual object. I want they become gentlemen who know how to respect and treat women in proper way.

Problem with the OP is that he is adopting old world mentality and trying to apply it to new world situations - it can work, but he clearly hasn't thought this thru properly. Hence, his OP became a rant that just didn't stop.
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I am an old world man who very concern about modesty :)

I came from environment that conservative but open minded and had high standar of etiquette, including etiquette of treating the women. But I live in the new world situation.

I have seen many things in my life, I have meet many people with various character and behavior, including women who were 'wild'. But I didn't do something wrong with them. And instead of judging them, I tried to understand them.

Yes, like mentioned in Qur'an surah 4:34 "Men are the maintainers of women ...... ". Men can make women become 'wrong', and can make women become 'right'. Depend on how men treat the women. Maybe many brothers disagree with me. But like I've said, I have seen many things in my life, and I have learned much.
 
Top shelf mags always stay on top shelf - it's law bro.

Lads mags such as fhm and nuts are no trashier than women's magazines. Full frontal nudity exist within both ladies and lads mags.

I tell u something bro ardianto. People are way more perverse in muslim countries than they are here in the UK. For example, Saudi Arabia has a huge homosexuality problem there and worse... I've witnessed men with beards showing off pornographic material on their phones inside of makkah no less.

No doubt this post will be deleted as usual.
 
The biggest issue today is not lad's mags. Many of these titles are actually in decline with falling sales. Far more serious is what goes on in this medium - the web. The material that's freely available on the web is infinitely worse than anything you'll find in a normal shop.
 
Independent said:
The biggest issue today is not lad's mags. Many of these titles are actually in decline with falling sales. Far more serious is what goes on in this medium - the web. The material that's freely available on the web is infinitely worse than anything you'll find in a normal shop.
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Not only freely available, but porn material in the web can appear without request.

Sometime happen, I visited a site and read article which absolutely not related to porn, and suddenly pop-up ad appear and show nude picture or even clip from adult movie.

Yes, worse than lad's mags or porn mags which we must buy if we want to read it.
 
...and the OP has disappeared :D

I do wonder why these "casual" members come here to rant. Are they really Muslims? Or are they here to try and stir the proverbial pot?

And if they really are Muslims, why don't they take it easy? You know? Salaama? Peace is the way forward... try to get to know some people, get involved in some current topics, discussions, do some investigating and research some things to help make a better point etc? What happened to the common sense? Where did it go?

The Don'ts:

Don't make your first few posts about something that is gonna cause a storm here, else you'll be viewed as someone with an agenda - we can't help it. Over my time as a member here, I've seen members come and go - those who went, usually did so with a loud crash and bang. And their first posts were very much like the OP in this thread. 'Cept, this member has left without so much as a squeek...

...I do hope he comes back in sha Allah.

Scimi
 
I hope next time he comes back he will take a better and more reasonable approach. True, these mags are a problem but they can easily be avoided while on the internet you dont know if you are one click away from a website full with filth. Porn is a much bigger problem which should be tackled and I know we both muslims and non-muslims can agree on that.

There aren't much people (Mainly teenagers) who buy these magazines anymore, while filth is easier accessible when browsing the internet.
 
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ardianto said:
But the OP said he can see these mags whenever he goes to supermarket. It's means they don't hide these mags well. And kids can see too.

I don't want pictures like that make my sons see women as sexual object. I want they become gentlemen who know how to respect and treat women in proper way.


I am an old world man who very concern about modesty :)

I came from environment that conservative but open minded and had high standar of etiquette, including etiquette of treating the women. But I live in the new world situation.

I have seen many things in my life, I have meet many people with various character and behavior, including women who were 'wild'. But I didn't do something wrong with them. And instead of judging them, I tried to understand them.

Yes, like mentioned in Qur'an surah 4:34 "Men are the maintainers of women ...... ". Men can make women become 'wrong', and can make women become 'right'. Depend on how men treat the women. Maybe many brothers disagree with me. But like I've said, I have seen many things in my life, and I have learned much.
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Don't take your "kids" to the super market. Problem solved. The irony is that the more prudish the parents the more likely the "kids" will turn out to be shocking libertines LOL.
Also the super market is private property, not your property so if you don't like it just don't go there. Boycotting it is the only just thing you can do.
 
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Well, the answer is pretty simple isnt it. either don't go there or lower your gaze however possible that may be.

..and may Allaah forgive us and make things easy upon us, Aameen.
 
Yup, we are responsible for our own deeds, no one elses.

Reminds of an hadeeth: On the Authority of Abu Sa'eed al Khudree RA who said: I heard the messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) say, "Whosoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then [let him change it] with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart - and that is the weakest of faith" (Muslim).
 
Karl said:
Don't take your "kids" to the super market. Problem solved. The irony is that the more prudish the parents the more likely the "kids" will turn out to be shocking libertines LOL.
Also the super market is private property, not your property so if you don't like it just don't go there. Boycotting it is the only just thing you can do.
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Lads mags in supermarket is not the main problem. I've ever be a boy, and I know how is the boys life. When I was a boy sometime I saw mags with 'hot cover' in shop, but I did not stare to these mags, due to simple reason. It would be embarassing if people saw me enjoyed a hot picture in public place.

But it doesn't mean I never saw hot picture. Even I've ever collected few which I got from my friends in school. School was one place where porn materials distributed among the boys.

In my teen age, one stuff which popular among middle class families was video player. Sometime the boys gathered and watched video together. When the parents were at home, the boys watched popular movies or racing videos. But when the parents were not at home?. .... You can guess what videos the boys were watching.

Yes, that's the boys behavior!

That's happened before the era of internet and cellphone with video that can be used to distribute video. We can imagine how easy for boys nowadays to get porn materials. Different than lads mags that easily can be found by the parents, electronic porn materials are easy to be hidden by the boys.

Just an info for the parents.
 
"If U want to destroy any nation without war, make Adultery or Nudity common in the young Generation" — Sultan Salahudeen Ayubi(Rh)
 
SunniLife said:
I am sick of seeing these disgusting magazines right in front of my nose whenever I go to the supermarket. They say they aren't pornographic, but as far as I'm concerned if they're meant for arousing sexual desire then they are the same. Also, the women in them are all disgraceful *****s, just like in porn. What is your opinions of them? Is there anything I can do to try and get them off the shelves of my local supermarket? I thinks its disgusting that they are in plain site for kids to see. :raging:
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Why not invite the owners (and others) of the supermarket to Islam?
 
ardianto said:
Lads mags in supermarket is not the main problem. I've ever be a boy, and I know how is the boys life. When I was a boy sometime I saw mags with 'hot cover' in shop, but I did not stare to these mags, due to simple reason. It would be embarassing if people saw me enjoyed a hot picture in public place.

But it doesn't mean I never saw hot picture. Even I've ever collected few which I got from my friends in school. School was one place where porn materials distributed among the boys.

In my teen age, one stuff which popular among middle class families was video player. Sometime the boys gathered and watched video together. When the parents were at home, the boys watched popular movies or racing videos. But when the parents were not at home?. .... You can guess what videos the boys were watching.

Yes, that's the boys behavior!

That's happened before the era of internet and cellphone with video that can be used to distribute video. We can imagine how easy for boys nowadays to get porn materials. Different than lads mags that easily can be found by the parents, electronic porn materials are easy to be hidden by the boys.

Just an info for the parents.
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Is it allowed to make public one's sins brother?
 

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