Cartoons in Europe, whats your opinion....

[mahdisoldier19]

Salam Alaikam

My God is the same God As christians and jews of Old.

Many misconceptions but! rob go to video.google.com

then type in loose change 9/11 then look for the second edition

 

[Shereen]

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"Back to Topic, - I think that these Pictures are degrading and an insult to a religion of peace",

OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some lowlights:

• Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslim officials block the exit where school irls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.
• A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.
• Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage
• Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.
• Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.
• British squaddies getting some back on all 101 fatalities in iraq the media kicks the arse out of it and there is outraged

Oh please, lets not get into this. Listing crimes across the world as if they are only committed by muslims?? Perhaps youd do well to remember that the prisons in the US are filled, and not just filled but overcrowded with murderers, rapists, child moslesters, theives, and violent offenders of every sort. And the fact is the vast marjority of those ppl are NOT muslim now are they? Many of them know no religion but most proclaim to be Christian. I however will not sit here and bash all Christians because of the bad apples in the bunch. I think its ironic though that in the US the government and media want to brain wash americans to fear the Muslim as the terrorist but then turn a blind eye to the thousands of home grown terrorists walking our streets everday. Crime in this country is constantly on the rise, violent offenders are out there robbing, beating, killing, raping and stealing...are all these criminals Muslim? Ive worked in law enforcement for 10 years and I assure you violent offenders and petty criminals come from every race, color, religion and social class in the world. But hey ...lets not clean our own house...lets not worry about the degeneration of our society, lets not worry about the morals we're teaching or more accurately not teaching our children...lets go instead to other countries and see if we can spread our crime ridden lifestyle to them. And while were at it we'll continually point the finger of blame at the Muslims as the cause for all the violence in the world. That makes perfect sense! :rollseyes

 

[Robert.Lane@Ora]

Im not American and Im not scared of Muslims. If this is such a peaceful religion, how come nearly every trouble spot in the world is because of religion, can you explain that. At the end of the day you are all hypocrites, you pick and choose what you want to believe, If life is so great being a muslim why not stay in your own countries instead of coming to britain. If western life is such an evil one why not stay in a place full of Muslims and not have to worry about stupid cartoons, islamaphobia etc... As said earlier; "My God is the same God As christians and jews of Old". You all worship the same god, there is only one god, but yet you all argue and fight over prophets. If moses, jesus, and mohamed were here today to see what theyve created they feel sick of them selves and sent you all to hell. Youre all as bad as each other, I guess you all deserve the suffering you afflict on each other. RELIGION the root of all EVIL!!!

 

[Ghazi]

Salaam

you pick and choose what you want to believe

No we don't But I can say thats true about alot of people without faith.

 

[Robert.Lane@Ora]

like I said before, faith in what?? Moses, jesus, Mohamed. I dont need them to tell me there is a God, I believe there is a God and only one God which we all believe in. Its only the difference of religion that divides us all.

 

[aamirsaab]

Its only the difference of religion that divides us all.

And our IQ

 

[Ghazi]

Salaam

like I said before, faith in what?? Moses, jesus, Mohamed. I dont need them to tell me there is a God, I believe there is a God

How can you believe without having faith, you say you don't need the prophets then what do you follow and what do you know about your god.

 

[Umar001]

I dont think the messengers of Almighty God came to just say, there is a God.

La Illaha Ill Allah.

There is no god but Almighty God.

see theres the first point to be gained

Peace be with you

 

[Robert.Lane@Ora]

I never said I didnt have faith, u did. I believe there is a God and I get on with what I have to do. I dont go out protesting, murdering. When I die and Im in front of who ever, all I will say is, do you really think I know which religion is the right path, they all lead to death and destruction. What if I did pick one which I thought were right and it turned out to be the wrong one. You only believe in what you do because you were brought up to believe in what you do. Like 99% of people who are brought up the way they are. Most christians today are christians because they were brought up that way, most of them dont really care or know much about their own religion. Jews pick an choose, reform jews, this jews... that jews... and musilms are fanatical and again pick an choose what they want to keep, Which religion should I choose, NONE. Theyre all as bad as each other. There will never be peace between any of you and you will kill each other. Peaceful Religion, BullS**T

 

[Robert.Lane@Ora]

No thats right he came hear to tell you to kill each other and rid the world of any other religion, what chapter was that in again

 

[Ghazi]

Salaam

I believe there is a God

Ok I guess this is getting a bit heated so lets calm down. Care to explain to me who is your god

 

[Robert.Lane@Ora]

Its not heated, I just love a good old debate. My God is the same as yours the jews and the christians. You all believe in the same God but give him different names and have different ways of serving him. As for the name of God, who knows. He knows what he's doing and this is all meant to happen and one day we'll all feel like a bunch of --- when He shows us the truth. But till then I guess we'll just have to carry on killing each other

 

[Ghazi]

Salaam

the truth

And this is

 

[Duhaa]

Its not heated, I just love a good old debate. My God is the same as yours the jews and the christians. You all believe in the same God but give him different names and have different ways of serving him. As for the name of God, who knows. He knows what he's doing and this is all meant to happen and one day we'll all feel like a bunch of d**kheads when He shows us the truth. But till then I guess we'll just have to carry on killing each other

What is it with you and killing?
You mention it in nearly all your posts! :rollseyes

 

[Robert.Lane@Ora]

this is what? a good old debate. Well your saying what u think and Im saying what I think. So that does really make it a debate. "a good old" is just a figure of speach

 

[Robert.Lane@Ora]

just to mentioning something you can relate to as thats what your religion does best, as does all religion

 

[HeiGou]

Oh please, lets not get into this. Listing crimes across the world as if they are only committed by muslims?? Perhaps youd do well to remember that the prisons in the US are filled, and not just filled but overcrowded with murderers, rapists, child moslesters, theives, and violent offenders of every sort. And the fact is the vast marjority of those ppl are NOT muslim now are they? Many of them know no religion but most proclaim to be Christian. I however will not sit here and bash all Christians because of the bad apples in the bunch. I think its ironic though that in the US the government and media want to brain wash americans to fear the Muslim as the terrorist but then turn a blind eye to the thousands of home grown terrorists walking our streets everday. Crime in this country is constantly on the rise, violent offenders are out there robbing, beating, killing, raping and stealing...are all these criminals Muslim? Ive worked in law enforcement for 10 years and I assure you violent offenders and petty criminals come from every race, color, religion and social class in the world. But hey ...lets not clean our own house...lets not worry about the degeneration of our society, lets not worry about the morals we're teaching or more accurately not teaching our children...lets go instead to other countries and see if we can spread our crime ridden lifestyle to them. And while were at it we'll continually point the finger of blame at the Muslims as the cause for all the violence in the world. That makes perfect sense! :rollseyes

The problem here is you are confusing crime with terrorism. Crime is awful, but it is random. It can strike each and everyone of us. It is random. It is not organised. Terror, on the other hand, is organised and it is directed to certain political goals. There is no resemblance between the two at all. Crime will not change government policy much or society to any real degree. Terror, on the other hand, aims to transform the world. So the prisons are full of criminals. From all races and religions. But modern terrorism is highly associated with one or two ideologies.

And while it is not true that Muslims are a cause for all the violence in the world some types of violence are more often done by Muslims than by others. All the suicide bombings in Europe have been committed by Muslims. It so happens that domestic violence is more common in Muslim countries and among Muslim communities than most others. This is not to blame all Muslims who are, of course, innocent. But while not all Muslims are terrorists, it is increasingly the case that all terrorists are, or think they are, Muslims.

 

[Sis786]

The problem here is you are confusing crime with terrorism. Crime is awful, but it is random. It can strike each and everyone of us. It is random. It is not organised. Terror, on the other hand, is organised and it is directed to certain political goals. There is no resemblance between the two at all. Crime will not change government policy much or society to any real degree. Terror, on the other hand, aims to transform the world. So the prisons are full of criminals. From all races and religions. But modern terrorism is highly associated with one or two ideologies.

And while it is not true that Muslims are a cause for all the violence in the world some types of violence are more often done by Muslims than by others. All the suicide bombings in Europe have been committed by Muslims. It so happens that domestic violence is more common in Muslim countries and among Muslim communities than most others. This is not to blame all Muslims who are, of course, innocent. But while not all Muslims are terrorists, it is increasingly the case that all terrorists are, or think they are, Muslims.

Answer me this question "How do you know that those suicide bombers are Muslim" Tell me!

I mean YES the media and the Goverment say this, But lets not forget the Media and the Goverment were also DEFINATE that Iraq had Nuclear Weapons.

I can go innocently on a train someone else could BLOW up the train, I DIE and then you see my pic all over the papers saying i blew myself UP! Im not there to say "No" My Parents and family are gonna be scared to death to come on TV and even if they do WHO is going to believe them.

The 2 weeks down the line YOU will hear that i went to a mosque and learned this. Even though i went to mosque to pray.

4 weeks later a video will be released SHOWING ME SAYING im gonna kill LOADS of people. And this video has come from the Goverment and CIA and MI5 who have the ability to make such vidoes.

Tell me ARE YOU GONNA THINK IM INNOCENT!

 

[HeiGou]

Answer me this question "How do you know that those suicide bombers are Muslim" Tell me!

Well around here I would use "Muslim" in a more technical sense than I would in normal conversation and say, it is not for me to judge their religion. But I did notice from their suicide videos they seemed to think they were Muslims. They certainly came from the Muslim community.

I mean YES the media and the Goverment say this, But lets not forget the Media and the Goverment were also DEFINATE that Iraq had Nuclear Weapons.

That is not entirely true. Many in the media doubted it. And so did some in the government.

Look, no doubt you would rather think this was all some bizarre plot against Islam, but face it, the boysa who did it did it. And they were not Jews.

I can go innocently on a train someone else could BLOW up the train, I DIE and then you see my pic all over the papers saying i blew myself UP! Im not there to say "No" My Parents and family are gonna be scared to death to come on TV and even if they do WHO is going to believe them.

There is a highly recognizable set of injuries caused by having a bomb on you as opposed to next to you. You could do this and it could happen. If there was some vast conspiracy that had anything to gain from blaming Muslims for these actions.

The 2 weeks down the line YOU will hear that i went to a mosque and learned this. Even though i went to mosque to pray.

4 weeks later a video will be released SHOWING ME SAYING im gonna kill LOADS of people. And this video has come from the Goverment and CIA and MI5 who have the ability to make such vidoes.

Uh huh.

Tell me ARE YOU GONNA THINK IM INNOCENT!

No. You display many of the features I associate with radical Islam. If something came along that pushed you over the edge into extreme radical action it would surprise me, but it would not be unthinkable.

 

[Sis786]

Well around here I would use "Muslim" in a more technical sense than I would in normal conversation and say, it is not for me to judge their religion. But I did notice from their suicide videos they seemed to think they were Muslims. They certainly came from the Muslim community.

HOW DO YOU KNOW because the Media showed you a passport. I know 50 people who are walkigna round with FAKE passports. ITs not rocket science to have a FAKE passport. SO how DO HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE FROM MUSLIM COUNTRIES!

That is not entirely true. Many in the media doubted it. And so did some in the government.

Look, no doubt you would rather think this was all some bizarre plot against Islam, but face it, the boysa who did it did it. And they were not Jews.

Who said they were JEWS i didnt. Many seem to think Muslims have this HATE for Jews. YES I HATE ARIEL SHARON but that dont mean i HATE all Jews. Jews are people of the Book and they should be respected BUT to get RESPECT you need to GIVE respect. and ALSO many confuse Zionist and Jews!!

There is a highly recognizable set of injuries caused by having a bomb on you as opposed to next to you.

Have you seen the Post-mortems on these SUICIDE BOMBERS. What makes you think that if i did die in a train innocently that the Goverment, CIA or whatever wouldnt change and alter facts to show that i was GUILTY. think about it YOU havnt seen the bodies of those who have been accused of being SUICIDE BOMBERS!


No. You display many of the features I associate with radical Islam. If something came along that pushed you over the edge into extreme radical action it would surprise me, but it would not be unthinkable.[/QUOTE]

Radical Islam is a PHASE made up by the Media!!! I as a Muslim KNOW islam and NO PART IS RADICAL, If parts are twsited that means that people have done this. Quran is the word of God and hasnt been changed FIND ME ONE SENTENCE IN THIS BOOK WHICH IS EVIL, RADICAL OR HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH TERROISM. ONE SENTENCE AND I WOULD EAT MY SCARF!!!!!!