Haraam T.V shows

[Muezzin]

Well when something is obviously Haram then I believe we should inform people. If they disagree then let them make their own opinion. But when a show constantly has half naked or naked women on then I dont think it is an issue to say whether or not it is haram. If someone asks me if alcahol is haram, I will say yes.

That's true. I wasn't referring to you in particular.

I am however referring to all this, 'This program is haram, this one isn't' mentality that seems prevalent in this thread.

It reminds me of silly moaning parents, to be honest. You know, the ones that think they're 'responsible' because they complain about Rambo showing on TV because kids might see it.

Never mind that kids should be in bed before 10 pm...

 

[Cheb]

Well the thing is, people should realize that these days there is SO much haram that it becomes norm. People soon forget about what is right and wrong and begin to imitate because no one told them otherwise. See those parents ARE actually being responsible. I mean I understand that it may get on your nerves when they tell you that you shouldnt do something. In fact soemtimes it makes you want to do it even more. So basically what I think parents should do is educate rather than order. If they were to explain the reasons why soemone should not watch or do something, then maybe there will be a better understanding between parent and child. Besides we are suppose to obey our parent's every word as long as it doesnt go against Islam
Sorry dont mean to ramble on like this but I just want to get my point across (even though a little off topic).

 

[Muezzin]

Well the thing is, people should realize that these days there is SO much haram that it becomes norm. People soon forget about what is right and wrong and begin to imitate because no one told them otherwise.

True. We should be told what is haram. We're not in a position to go declaring things haram though.

See those parents ARE actually being responsible.

How? If the parent doesn't like what the kids are watching, they should turn the damn thing off. And if the kid turns it back on... knock 'em out.

To quote Bender: 'There IS too much violence and crime on TV, and it IS cool, but it's not something our kids should be exposed to. Haven't you ever tried turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?'

I mean I understand that it may get on your nerves when they tell you that you shouldnt do something. In fact soemtimes it makes you want to do it even more. So basically what I think parents should do is educate rather than order. If they were to explain the reasons why soemone should not watch or do something, then maybe there will be a better understanding between parent and child.

I agree. And I still say use the 'power' button. It works both ways.

Besides we are suppose to obey our parent's every word as long as it doesnt go against Islam

Yep

Sorry dont mean to ramble on like this but I just want to get my point across (even though a little off topic).

It's okay, I do it all the time and I still haven't been banned yet.

 

[aamirsaab]

I've seen that. That without a doubt is haram. I don't think any mufti or 'alim would label that as halal. Shows things like fornication, adultery, homosexuality, cursing.... all the negative things under the sun!

Majority of that occurs in Regent college - well most of it then, which therefore means that the college is haram and I shouldn't attend it. And therefore, that makes me haram. Man i'm confuzzled.

 

[Halima]

Threads merged.

 

[HeiGou]

Majority of that occurs in Regent college - well most of it then, which therefore means that the college is haram and I shouldn't attend it. And therefore, that makes me haram. Man i'm confuzzled.

Hmmm, there are probably legal texts that discuss all those things too. Perhaps the key is how they discuss it. It is one thing to condemn it and condemn it properly, it is another to enjoy it, endorse it and find entertainment in it?

 

[Halima]

If you think about it, any movies or shows that are PG-13 or rated X have sexual content in them that is why it is shown in the movies. They are all obviously haraam. If it is prohibited for the media to watch then you might aswell say that is is prohibited for us muslims to watch.

The safest channel to watch is the Discovery channel.

 

[Silver Pearl]

*sighs* I don't get it....

Must something be labelled haram or halal?

Alright, you watch Desperate housewife, May Allah bless you.

You watch football, May Allah bless you.

You watch Eastenders, May Allah bless you.

You watch taraweeh, May Allah bless you.

The fact is, it doesn't matter what people who are well-versed say about these programmes. Someone is not going to stop watching it because Sheikh such and such said it is haram. People have to be willing to guard their eyes, mouth, hands etc from doing what they know is not permissible. We are not incompetent and Allah (swt) has blessed us with mind and comprehensive and if you delude yourself watching such programmes is halal then watch it.....

Every man on his own amal.

Lets not judge one another brothers and sisters. Lets look at ourselves first and then pray for our brothers and sisters, the ummah, those who are misguided. Don't sit there and go haram 3leeyk ya akh wa ukht. It isn't going to change anything but perhaps your duas may be accepted by Al-raheem. Perhaps because of your kind words they may be amongst the obiedent. Perhaps because of your understanding they may hasten to be amonsgt those who prosper.

Wa Allahu'3llim

:wasalamex

 

[Cheb]

I understand what you are saying but I think we must label them as haram or halal. ESPECIALLY nowadays where people seem to either convince themselves, or are convinced by other people that such programs are not haram. They are misinformed or misguided and it is our job to inform them if we can. If you would like to make Dua'a also then that is even better, but we should not just rely on that to guide our Ummah. Muslims need to be able to distinguish between haram and halal or eventually they will pass their views to their children, and them to theirs and so on until it becomes the norm. More and more Muslim countries are becoming a lot more similar to the West and honestly one of the reasons is the T.V. If children see such things on T.V when they are young, this will have a long term affect on them. So I think by labelling something we are helping our Ummah, we are not judging them.

 

[Maimunah]

I understand what you are saying but I think we must label them as haram or halal. ESPECIALLY nowadays where people seem to either convince themselves, or are convinced by other people that such programs are not haram. They are misinformed or misguided and it is our job to inform them if we can. If you would like to make Dua'a also then that is even better, but we should not just rely on that to guide our Ummah. Muslims need to be able to distinguish between haram and halal or eventually they will pass their views to their children, and them to theirs and so on until it becomes the norm. More and more Muslim countries are becoming a lot more similar to the West and honestly one of the reasons is the T.V. If children see such things on T.V when they are young, this will have a long term affect on them. So I think by labelling something we are helping our Ummah, we are not judging them.

i agree wiv there

 

[Believer5]

So I think by labelling something we are helping our Ummah, we are not judging them.

"We" aren't fit to decide what's haraam and what isn't. It's upto the scholars to do that, and then all we can do is forward on their rulings to others.

Everyone be careful with making statements like "Eastenders is haraam"

 

[Ghazi]

"We" aren't fit to decide what's haraam and what isn't. It's upto the scholars to do that, and then all we can do is forward on their rulings to others.

Everyone be careful with making statements like "Eastenders is haraam"

Salaam

I think we can all agree that ''eastenders'' contains haraam content, I think people should just use their common sense and judge a sitaution and see if it goes against any islamic principle, the funny thing about the majority of T.V is it's a buch of kafirs sinning and sadly muslims watch them sinning.

 

[Cheb]

"We" aren't fit to decide what's haraam and what isn't. It's upto the scholars to do that, and then all we can do is forward on their rulings to others.

Everyone be careful with making statements like "Eastenders is haraam"

Actually "We" are. When it comes to issues that we already know about and already have asked about we can pass it on. My comments were basically directed towards Desperate House Wives which I have NO doubt is haram and therefore I will label it as such. Eastenders contains plenty of subject matter that we should not be exposed to. There are kissing scenes and plenty of women who are not dressed Islamically of course. You draw your conclusion then.

 

[Muezzin]

I don't get this logic of 'it has some contents which are haraam, therefore the whole thing is haraam'. It doesn't make sense. It's like, corner shops sell lots of sweets, some of which we can't eat because they're haraam. Does that make the corner shop in itself haraam?

I'm not saying we should expose ourselves to haraam things though.

 

[Maimunah]

ofcourse not all TV is haraam bt bro majority of its shows are haraam
common in every advert there's a woman not dressesd well so ru as a brother in islam ment to be watchin somethin lyk that???

 

[Musaafirah]

vaa vaa! this subject has changed 4rm asking about a film to soapz :?
i thought watchin tv was haraam full stop?

 

[Ghazi]

I don't get this logic of 'it has some contents which are haraam, therefore the whole thing is haraam'. It doesn't make sense. It's like, corner shops sell lots of sweets, some of which we can't eat because they're haraam. Does that make the corner shop in itself haraam?

I'm not saying we should expose ourselves to haraam things though.

Salaam

I'll break it down for you bro, Lets use Eastenders as an example

1.Constent Consumtion of alcohal in most episodes
2.Adultery
3.fornication
4.Thievery

And many more haraam actions a muslim should aviod, we've been warned to stay away from these things in the Quran so whats the point of viewing a show with such material.

 

[Muezzin]

Look bro, I'll break it down for you.

Eastenders

10% Pat Butcher

10% 'RICKAY'

80% Turd



I'm not saying we should watch programmes with haraam content. We should avoid such content. I'm just saying we shouldn't be so fast to play the HARAAAM!!!111One card at every opportunity.

 

[Muezzin]

I agree Eastenders is crap. So are most of the programmes on TV, which is why I hardly watch the thing. I just don't think it's our place to go declaring tv shows haraam.

I also agree with the sweet shop analogy. That's what I was trying to say - we shouldn't make blanket statements.

 

[Halima]

There is a big diference if someone knows that there is inappropriate content in what they watch verses what they don't know.

Brothers and sisters, if you watch something that you already know that has inappropriate content what are you gonna keep on doing?

Will you watch it regardless, or will you fear Allah(swt) and stop? If you keep on watching the same show without having any clear conscience something must be wrong with you. Either your judgement is extremely poor, or you just don't care if you are sinning or not.

All of these little mini soap shows like the so called show Eastenders are what leads to to the big factor in real life. Fornication, adultery, and free mixing. Now in Islam this is somthing that we should not be accustomed to.

My philosophy is that if you know what you are watching has inappropriate content, it is just like going on the computer and looking up porn for yourself.

Nevertheless, don't get me wrong, there is ALWAYS ALWAYS AND ALWAYS a precaution pertaining to the inappropriate shows that have sexual content. So how would you go against that? You yourself will be accountable merely for that one scene that flat out shows that woman's breast.

- something to think about insha'Allah (and Allah knows best)