Heaven

[Mohammed Bilal]

Must be boring for a Christian to live in Paradise doing nothing. Can't even eat food to enjoy.

Thats true what would you do if there wasnt anything good in paradise.

 

[PrIM3]

Thats true what would you do if there wasnt anything good in paradise.

I will personally be with God the one who rid my addiction that I had for 3 years. the one who calms me when I have relationship problems. I don't need anything that the flesh wants because God himself will be there to wipe away every tear, and there will be no more pain or crying.

 

[251-555-652]

I sense a bit of sarcasim in your comment, in this world my freind it is very easy for one to be bad and indulge in all the worldy demonic influences, but to abstain and enjoy purity in its heavenly form is a reward in it self. Did you hear of the orthodox monk in athens that was untombed after 15 years and has not changed one bit from the time he was buried. He is going to be the next proclaimed saint Bysarion, when approached he smells of francensense. There is not much coverage in the mainstream media of this. But it looks like they are going to bury him for three more years and then if nothing has changed they will proclaim him as a new saint of the One Holy Catholic Apostalic Church. Which is what the Eastern Orthodox Church is Called.

 

[Nicola]

If a person is guided by a Holy spirit to christianity, than is it suffice to say when he/she goes away from the faith the person is being guided by the Holy spirit!

What you mean by like?
Can you elaborate please Nicola

Thanks.

No if a Christian comes away from his religion, it is his own-self will doing that...or it could be an evil spirit...e.g. such as the Mormons founder...Joseph Smith who recieved visions etc...but this messages he recieved did not come from God..but an evil Spirit...tempting him away from the truth.
The Holy Spirit can only speak the truth and it always leads you to Jesus. The Holy Spirit cannot lie...because he is Gods Spirit.
Also in the Bible we are told of predestation...meaning God already know who is a Child of his before we are even born. So Gods will, will be done..no matter what...

Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
Eph 1:4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love
Eph 1:5 he predestined us for adoption through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

Rom 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
Rom 8:30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.


There is a great difference between a Christian and a born-again Christian...
I expect there are between a practicing Muslim and non-practicing Muslim.


A Christian person, is really in name only...Jesus tells us we need to be born again...else we will not enter Heaven..and we can only be born-again with the Holy Spirit...because of old-self literaly dies..He helps us over-come all temptations..

John 3:5, where Jesus says, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God."

We need the Holy Spirit to change us...he begins working in us..if we let him...to make us Christ-like..

Below Jesus is talking about Christians who are not born-again.

What Jesus tells us about this
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father, which is in heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

Luke 20

34Jesus replied, "The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35But those who are considered worthy of taking part in that age and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, 36and they can no longer die;

for they are like the angels

. They are God's children, since they are children of the resurrection.

Like angels...but not the same...

Angels are essentially "ministering spirits," (Hebrews 1:14) and do not have physical bodies like humans. Jesus declared that "a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have" (Luke 24:37-39).

Angels can take on the appearance of men when the occasion demands. How else could some "entertain angels unaware" (Hebrews 13:2)? On the other hand, their appearance is sometimes in dazzling white and blazing glory (Matthew 28:2-4).


Born-again Christians will be like angels in the sense they will live forever, in fellowship with the Father...they don't have to marry etc..


God Bless

 

[Nicola]

I sense a bit of sarcasim in your comment, in this world my freind it is very easy for one to be bad and indulge in all the worldy demonic influences, but to abstain and enjoy purity in its heavenly form is a reward in it self.

so very true.
For we are in this world, but not of it
Amen

 

[Muhammad]

and Greetings,

Sorry for my late replies.

For what reason will there be marriage?...for pleasure, children..or both?
If so are there going to be more Children born in heaven?

I haven't heard of any children being born in heaven, so I believe marriage is mainly for pleasure, as is everything in Paradise.

Brother, Where is the evidence of marriage?

The evidence can be found in the Qur'an:

[44.54] Thus (shall it be), and We will wed them with Houris pure, beautiful ones.

And also from the ahadeeth stating that people shall have wives in Paradise. I am not saying a marriage ceremony is going to take place, if that is what you mean; all I meant was that people shall have wives in Paradise, and Allaah Knows best.

 

[Ghazi]

and Greetings,

Sorry for my late replies.

I haven't heard of any children being born in heaven, so I believe marriage is mainly for pleasure, as is everything in Paradise.

The evidence can be found in the Qur'an:

[44.54] Thus (shall it be), and We will wed them with Houris pure, beautiful ones.

And also from the ahadeeth stating that people shall have wives in Paradise. I am not saying a marriage ceremony is going to take place, if that is what you mean; all I meant was that people shall have wives in Paradise, and Allaah Knows best.

Salaam

I haven't heard of any children being born in heaven, so I believe marriage is mainly for pleasure, as is everything in Paradise.

I have, I read in some book the birth process would take one hour and the person who enters janna could decide what age the child would be. I look the refrence for you.

 

[cleo]

If you eat, on earth it is food for your life to exist. But, if you are in heaven, you don't need food to eat, to life, for it is everlasting life? So, I wonder, cause I am not a expert, the reason you have food and drink in heaven, it would be to your pleasure, not survival. Just a thought!!

 

[Kittygyal]

If you eat, on earth it is food for your life to exist. But, if you are in heaven, you don't need food to eat, to life, for it is everlasting life? So, I wonder, cause I am not a expert, the reason you have food and drink in heaven, it would be to your pleasure, not survival. Just a thought!!

that is true bro:happy:

take care

 

[PrIM3]

If you eat, on earth it is food for your life to exist. But, if you are in heaven, you don't need food to eat, to life, for it is everlasting life? So, I wonder, cause I am not a expert, the reason you have food and drink in heaven, it would be to your pleasure, not survival. Just a thought!!

so being around God wouldn't be pleasure enough?

 

[Muhammad]

Hello there,

Being around God is indeed among the greatest pleasures, yet out of His mercy, He has prepared many more bounties for the inhabitants of Paradise to enjoy.

Peace.

 

[PrIM3]

Hello there,

Being around God is indeed among the greatest pleasures, yet out of His mercy, He has prepared many more bounties for the inhabitants of Paradise to enjoy.

Peace.

sounds to me like muslims believe that heaven was/is made completely for you. ( don't take it as me trying to sound rude.. I am really not )

I am not trying to lead this topic off away..

well we believe no one can enter heaven unless he is really born-again --- which is baptism.. why because it is your spirit that is going to be in heaven not your flesh.. a spirit doesn't need food or drink.. or does a spirit want it either.. as Jesus states "The spirit is willing, but the body is weak"--- Mark 14:38... I think what he means in that verse there is that the Spirit and the body needs/desires different things from each other... we will be like gods but not like God.. we will be perfect but not like God-perfect.

 

[ummnasr]

Salams everyone, Im pretty sure if im not right someone correct me but, women in jannah will give birth (have children) but they will be born 3oyrs of age might sound weird cause im not sure but i know that we will all be 30yrs old in jannah everything will be equal,

May allah forgive us, and guide us and inshaa allah make us the people of Jannah ammen

 

[renak]

I find the Islamic view of paradise intoxicating! I prefer the Islamic view to the Christian view.

 

[ummnasr]

Beware of that freedom of expression, that is clearly from the shaytan, he wants us to feel as if we can have our own opinions in reguards to religion, its really simple people just read what allah has reavealed through his pure prophets, As Allahs words are perfect , ours is not even comparable ameen

 

[nimrod]

Nicola what does Revelation say about the tree that bears 12 kinds of fruit?
I believe Old testament mentions this tree as well. Are the fruits not to be eaten?

Thanks
Nimrod

 

[sumay28]

I find the Islamic view of paradise intoxicating! I prefer the Islamic view to the Christian view.

Masha allah. Just the description of paradise in the Quran and Hadiths just make me want to live in a cave and just worship Allah for the rest of my life. Even the word "Jannah" is thrilling. The food is not for nourishment, but for enjoyment. At the snap of a finger, you can have a gallon of dates or whatever food you desire, and you won't get full, you won't get fat, you won't have to worry about heart problems. You can drink wine without the hangover. You'll be more beautiful than anything you've ever seen in this life. And no one will be jealous of you. There is no jealousy. No hatred. No bills!! What's the problem with that?

 

[Muhammad]

Greetings,

sounds to me like muslims believe that heaven was/is made completely for you. ( don't take it as me trying to sound rude.. I am really not )

Paradise was created for all those who were obedient to God and were allowed to enter it by His mercy.

[7.42] And (as for) those who believe and do good We do not impose on any soul a duty except to the extent of its ability-- they are the dwellers of the garden; in it they shall abide.
[7.43] And We will remove whatever of ill-feeling is in their breasts; the rivers shall flow beneath them and they shall say: All praise is due to Allah Who guided us to this, and we would not have found the way had it not been that Allah had guided us; certainly the apostles of our Lord brought the truth; and it shall be cried out to them that this is the garden of which you are made heirs for what you did.


Peace.

 

[Umm Yoosuf]

Masha allah. Just the description of paradise in the Quran and Hadiths just make me want to live in a cave and just worship Allah for the rest of my life. Even the word "Jannah" is thrilling. The food is not for nourishment, but for enjoyment. At the snap of a finger, you can have a gallon of dates or whatever food you desire, and you won't get full, you won't get fat, you won't have to worry about heart problems. You can drink wine without the hangover. You'll be more beautiful than anything you've ever seen in this life. And no one will be jealous of you. There is no jealousy. No hatred. No bills!! What's the problem with that?

Wow yes such description are amazing glory be to Allah. Amazing by Allah! Amazing! And there is things that no eye has ever seen, no hear has ever heard of! Subhanallah!

 

[Maimunah]

Wow yes such description are amazing glory be to Allah. Amazing by Allah! Amazing! And there is things that no eye has ever seen, no hear has ever heard of! Subhanallah!

yep"Now no person knows what delights of the eye are kept hidden (in reserve) for them - as a reward for their (good) deeds!! Is then the man who believes no better than the man who is rebellious and wicked? Not equal are they. For those who believe and do righteous deeds are Gardens as hospitable homes, for their (good) deeds.
chapter 32 verse 17-9"
wasalaam