Re: Miracles in the Qur'an
Since the kuffar(specially the athiests) like to talk about rationale and concrete proofs of the existence of a divine being and the Tauheed (Oneness of Allah), I have a very good proposition for them, and that is - Why don't you try reading the Qur'an(with an open heart) for a change?
Well I have done my best, but I do not buy the scientific miracle argument.
I mean...there a certain limit to absurdity, which unfortunately the kuffar have crossed way beyond by not accepting Islam. I am not asking the kuffar or the athiest to believe in Islam blindly.
I suspect that is exactly what you are asking, but why do you think it is absurd? Muslims have been ruling over non-Muslims too long. You have not had to think what it is like to be a non-Muslim or how to convince people Islam is true because you all have been able to compell. Calling me stupid is not a good way to start convincing me of the benefits of Islam.
A man who was an Ummmi (pbuh) or a person who had no knowledge of reading or writing spoke words that made so much sense that people in the 20th century are confirming through their 'science' or their 'logic'. He(pbuh) spoke words as is some divine power was putting words in his mouth.
You assume that "Ummi" means "illiterate". I would think it was a man who was sent to an "Ummah" myself. Why do you think it means illterate and do you have any examples of that usage before Muhammed's time?
Allah shows his signs through these miraculous verses of Al-Qur'an
THE FUNCTION OF MOUNTAINS
The Qur'an draws attention to a very important geological function of mountains:
We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them… (Qur'an, 21:31)
The verse states that mountains perform the function of preventing shocks in the Earth. This fact was not known by anyone at the time the Qur'an was revealed. It was, in fact, brought to light only recently, as a result of the findings of modern geological research.
Actually it is still not known to modern science. If you look at the regions of the world with lots of mountains, you will also find lots of earthquakes. This is not a surprise as mountains are caused by tectonic plates colliding together and raising the Earth - thus the Earthquakes. So, the Himalayas - lots of Earthquakes. The Andes? Japan? Wherever you find mountains you find a part of the Earth that is full of shocks - why are those mountains doing such a poor job? Notice that the Quran gets it not only wrong but back to front. Mountains not only do not prevent quakes, they are caused by them.
Formerly, it was thought that mountains were merely protrusions rising above the surface of the Earth. However, scientists realised that this was not actually the case, and that those parts known as the mountain root extended down as far as 10-15 times their own height. With these features, mountains play a similar role to a nail or peg firmly holding down a tent. For example, Mount Everest, the summit of which stands approximately 9 km above the surface of the Earth, has a root deeper than 125 km.
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Mountains have roots deep under the surface of the ground. (Press and Siever, Earth, 413.)
Schematic section. Mountains, like pegs, have deep roots embedded in the ground. (Andre Cailleux and J. Moody Stuart, Anatomy of the Earth (McGraw-Hill Companies: 1968), 220.)
Another illustration shows how mountains are peg-like in shape, due to their deep roots. (Edward J. Tarbuck and Frederick K. Lutgens, Earth Science (USA: Macmillan USA: 1993), 158.)
Actually as anyone can see from those pictures, mountains are not like pegs at all. Pegs are long and thin. They are like cow pats - they are much broader across than they are high or deep. So it is true that you can trace the structure of mountains deep into the earth - not a surprise as they are pushing up from below (and not being pushed down from above like a peg), but they are still not shaped like pegs at all.
Mountains emerge as a result of the movements and collisions of massive plates forming the Earth's crust. When two plates collide, the stronger one slides under the other, the one on the top bends and forms heights and mountains. The layer beneath proceeds under the ground and makes a deep extension downward. Consequently, as stated earlier, mountains have a portion stretching downwards, as large as their visible parts on the Earth.
Notice that this proves that Mountains do not stabilise the Earth but are caused by movements within.
In a scientific text, the structure of mountains is described as follows:
Where continents are thicker, as in mountain ranges, the crust sinks deeper into the mantle.
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Professor Siaveda, a world-renowned underwater geologist, made the following comment in reference to the way that mountains have root-like stalks attaching them to the surface:
The fundamental difference between continental mountains and the oceanic mountains lies in its material... But the common denominator on both mountains are that they have roots to support the mountains. In the case of continental mountains, light-low density material from the mountain is extended down into the earth as a root. In the case of oceanic mountains, there is also light material supporting the mountain as a root... Therefore, the function of the roots are to support the mountains according to the law of Archimedes.
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Neat. But notice he does not use the word "peg". Because again as you can clearly see they are not like tent pegs at all.
In another verse it is revealed that Allah "made the mountains firm." (Qur'an, 79:32) The word "arsaha" in this verse means "was made rooted, was fixed, was nailed to the earth." Similarly, mountains extend to the surface layer joining lines on and below the surface, and nail these together. By fixing the Earth's crust they prevent any sliding over the magma layer or amongst the layers themselves.
Actually this claim is simply untrue. It is, as your quote above shows, the reverse of the truth and is a simple bare-faced, well, I won't use that word.
G.B Airy in 1855 suggested that the crust of the earth could be likened to rafts of timber floating on water. Thick pieces of timber float higher above the water surface than thin pieces and similarly thick sections of the earth's crust will float on a liquid or plastic substratum of greater density. Airy was suggesting that mountains have a deep root of lower density rock which the plains lack.
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So not "arsaha" ("was made rooted, was fixed, was nailed to the earth") at all.
Today, we know that the rocky external layer of the Earth's surface is riven by deep faults and split into plates swimming above the molten lava. Since the Earth revolves very quickly around its own axis, were it not for the fixing effect of the mountains, these plaques would shift. In such an event, soil would not collect on the Earth's surface, water would not accumulate in the soil, no plants could grow, and no roads or houses could be built. In short, life on Earth would be impossible. Through the mercy of Allah, however, mountains act like nails, and to a large extent, prevent movement in the Earth's surface.
This is simply nonsense.
This vital role of mountains, which has been discovered by modern geological and seismic research, was revealed in the Qur'an centuries ago as an example of the supreme wisdom in Allah's creation.
… [He] cast firmly embedded mountains on the earth so that it would not move under you… (Qur'an, 31:10)
We have established that 1. the mountains are not firmly embedded and 2. they do not prevent the Earth from moving, but are in fact caused by it moving. You need a better sort of geologist to go over these texts.
THE IDENTITY IN THE FINGERPRINT
Everyone, including identical twins, has a unique fingerprint. In other words, people's identities are coded at their fingertips. This coding system may also be compared to the barcode system that is used today.
While it is stated in the Qur'an that it is easy for Allah to bring man back to life after death, peoples' fingerprints are particularly emphasized:
Yes, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers. (Qur'an, 75:4)
The emphasis on fingerprints has a very special meaning.
What emphasis on fingerprints? That passage above does not mention in any way shape or form fingerprints. Which were known to the Han Chinese by the way so even if it did it would not be guaranteed to be a miracle.
However, what is important is that this feature of fingerprints was only discovered in the late 19th century. Before then, people regarded fingerprints as ordinary curves without any specific importance or meaning.
In the 1880s in British India to be exact, but the Chinese knew about it a long time before then and it was a standard way of classifying convicts for instance.
However in the Qur'an, Allah points to the fingertips, which did not attract anyone's attention at that time, and calls our attention to their importance.
Points to but does not mention.
SubhanAllah these are just a few verses from the Qur'an. There are many more
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_index.html
for those who base their belief merely on 'their' logic and 'their' reasoning.
And they remain as utterly unconvincing as they always have been. Whatever reasons exist for becoming a Muslim, and I accept that there are some, these are not good ones.
