A nation blind to their disgrace

salaam
there is absoloutly no justification for killing innocent civilians!! Without the right to life, talk of basic human security and dignity holds little meaning!!! :grumbling

Fight in the cause of Allah :peace:
 
salaam
there is absoloutly no justification for killing innocent civilians!! Without the right to life, talk of basic human security and dignity holds little meaning!!! :grumbling

Fight in the cause of Allah :peace:
You are right the Israelis have been heavy handed but the Pals have to take some of the responsiblity because they work amongst the civilian population no?
 
Wish I could but I'm at work grinding up Pal babies bones for my Jewish masters

WOOOOO

Showing our true colours now are we......LOLLLLLL

So much for the 'patient' american soldier

So much for Western Liberation.......

You must be a blood thirsty anti Islam protestor!
 
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You are right the Israelis have been heavy handed but the Pals have to take some of the responsiblity because they work amongst the civilian population no?
True. Sadly, the world doesn't see it that way, to them its like: "oh these palestinian militants are so bad. Go sharon, go".

p.s; there is no justification in killing civilians.
 
^^ that is very true bro they dont care whether they bomb civilians or not, they always come up with an excuse
 
^^ that is very true bro they dont care whether they bomb civilians or not, they always come up with an excuse

true say bro!
Islam forbids the killing of "innocent" civilians.
Islam considers all life forms as sacred. However, the sanctity of human life is accorded a special place. The first and the foremost basic right of a human being is the right to live. The Qur’an says about the one who kills an innocent person: “….it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole of mankind.” [Al-Qur’an 5:32]
 
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True. Sadly, the world doesn't see it that way, to them its like: "oh these palestinian militants are so bad. Go sharon, go".

p.s; there is no justification in killing civilians.
I agree but your comments just went over everybody elses head
 
Erm.... I get the point, but of late far more innocent Iraqis have been killed by other Iraqis than by Americans. There wasn't exactly a shortage of Iraqis (or Iranians, or Kuwaitis) being killed by Iraqis when Saddam was around either.

Its a little too easy just to blame America all the time rather than accept responsibility when due, I think.
 
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I agree but your comments just went over everybody elses head
Happens.

Trumble said:
Erm.... I get the point, but of late far more innocent Iraqis have been killed by other Iraqis than by Americans. There wasn't exactly a shortage of Iraqis (or Iranians, or Kuwaitis) being killed by Iraqis when Saddam was around either.

Its a little too easy just to blame America all the time rather than accept responsibility when due, I think.
Yeah but the coalition forces have only added to the killing - which means nothing good came out of the iraq war. Oh but wait we got saddam. yes you got saddam, about a year ago.

Bottom line is: get the coalition forces out of iraq - they have families that await them. Families that haven't had bullets fired at their homes, families that are still alive.
 
Bottom line is: get the coalition forces out of iraq - they have families that await them. Families that haven't had bullets fired at their homes, families that are still alive.

Except that the Iraqi government wants them to stay because it knows full well that an all-out civil war might erupt if they left.
 
especially when its illegal


illegal war illegal torture and we are called terrorists does not stand to reason!!
isreal is called innocent they are fake fake fake media hyp about the lillings of isreals but our muslim brothers and sisters are tortured bomed thier kids murdered and what does the media say palsitians and muslims are terrorists:mad: :enough!: :'( :inshallah Allah is on ourside and things will change they have to change may Allah give us courage and the stmina to change things for all muslims ameen yes areil sharron has broken more un conventions and is a war criminal more than hitler was
 
We should make Dua for our brothers and sisters being oppressed Insha'Allah because dua is the weapon of the believer and we should help them in any way we can Insha'Allah

also check out these really good lectures, it gives you good tips, when your dua is most likely to be accpeted and so on: :)

Dua the Weapon of the Believer - Part 01

Dua the Weapon of the Believer - Part 02

Dua the Weapon of the Believer - Part 03

Dua the Weapon of the Believer - Part 04

Dua the Weapon of the Believer - Part 05

Dua the Weapon of the Believer - Part 06

Dua the Weapon of the Believer - Part 07

Dua the Weapon of the Believer - Part 08
 
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Except that the Iraqi government wants them to stay because it knows full well that an all-out civil war might erupt if they left.
And you do know that this is only because saddam is not in power anymore (if he was still in power, yes killing would still occur, no civil war however, bar the shia/sunni scrap), which is because of the coalition forces who have only increased the death-toll in Iraq, which has lead us to discuss this topic.
 
No Bravery

A nation blind to their disgrace

WARNING: TURN DOWN SPEAKERS DUE TO THE MUSIC!!!

That was disturbing... on every level of my being! I have sought this type of documentation too, because America never sees it. To this date, we still have no translations of messages addressed to "the American people" from bin Laden, Zawahiri and Zarqawi. We get news about the messages, usually in the form of the reporter's opinion of it, with maybe one or two statements offered as a proof that the reporter actually has the message copies. I've had to special order these from outside our borders, and just got some of the material before the mail from Canada was held up (they said to prevent Americans from buying cheaper prescription drugs from them).

I am familiar with war. I'm not a soldier, but am aware of, and can deal with, death imagery. Humanity has a long history of this. But I do get annoyed when I see people here trapse through their days, completely ignorant to the current states of affairs because I know how inter-connected we all are. What happens to the one, always affects the other.

Heard Zawahiri put out a call to Muslims to gather themselves. Maybe it's time to heed that advice?

It will get worse before it gets better, so you know.

Ninth Scrbe
 
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And you do know that this is only because saddam is not in power anymore (if he was still in power, yes killing would still occur, no civil war however, bar the shia/sunni scrap), which is because of the coalition forces who have only increased the death-toll in Iraq, which has lead us to discuss this topic.

Have to agree here... Hussein did warn that it's a useless waste of lives and resources to fight amongst yourselves, but there are "trust issues" at play, and another factor that is eluding me at the moment.

Ninth Scribe
 

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