i been silent for too long...
...
The Timeline
Wednesday 7 January, 11.30am local time
Two gunmen - Chérif Kouachi and his brother Saïd - storm the offices of the Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris. They shoot dead several people including the magazine’s editor and some of its cartoonists. Five minutes later, they emerge on to the street and get into their car to escape. They drive north and exchange fire with a police vehicle. One officer, Ahmed Merabet, is wounded in the shootout; a Kouachi brother then runs up and shoots him in the head. In total 12 people are killed in the attacks.
Gunmen flee the offices of Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris. Photograph: Reuters TV/Reuters
Midday
The gunmen crash their car and hijack another vehicle, calmly forcing the driver out. They tell him: “If the media ask you anything, tell them it’s al-Qaida in Yemen.” They drive off from Paris’s 19th arrondissement in a grey Clio. Paris is put on the highest state of alert.
Paris is put on a high state of alert. Photograph: Bertrand Guay/AFP/Getty Images
6pm
The people of Paris gather on Place de la République for a vigil, one of many around France and the world.
Demonstrators gather at the Place de la Republique on Wednesday. Photograph: Christophe Ena/AP
Thursday 8 January, 8am
News of another attack in Paris, with a policewoman - 25-year-old trainee Clarissa Jean-Phillipe - shot dead in the southern suburb of Montrouge. Police initially believe the shooting is unrelated, but later say that the Montrouge gunmen and the Kouachi brothers knew each other
Police inspect the shooting scene in Montrouge, Paris, after a policewoman was shot dead. Photograph: Imago / Barcroft Media/PanoramiC
10.30am
Reports suggest the two suspects, heavily armed and wearing balaclavas, are seen driving north through Picardy. The pair rob a petrol station north-east of Paris. They drive off with assault rifles and rocket launchers visible in the back of their getaway car. A massive manhunt takes place in a large wooded area nearby.
French police special forces in Corcy, near Villers-Cotterets, north-east of Paris, where the two suspects were spotted in a gray Renault Clio. Photograph: Francois Nascimbeni/AFP/Getty Images
Friday 9 January, 8.10am
The gunmen resurface and hijack a grey Peugeot 206 in the village of Montagny-Sainte-Félicité. A village teacher spots the men as they seize her vehicle. She says they are carrying weapons, including a rocket-propelled grenade launcher. The pair dump the Renault Clio they were driving earlier after it runs out of petrol
SWAT police officers patrol in the village of Longpont, north-east of Paris, in search of the suspects. Photograph: Michel Spingler/AP
9am
There is a shoot-out between the suspects and police on the N2 motorway. No one is hurt. The brothers drive into an industrial estate in the small village of Dammartin-en-Goële, 40km north-east of Paris. They take refuge in a printing works. A massive police operation gets underway involving armed officers and helicopters
A
police helicopter and the French Special Police Forces wait in fields surrounding an industrial estate where it is thought the suspects are holding a hostage. Photograph: Christopher Furlong/Getty Images
11.30am
Police close in on the printing complex, Création Tendance Découverte. There are reports that one hostage is inside. According to French TV, he is a 26-year-old male. French special forces take up positions on the roof of surrounding buildings. Charles de Gaulle airport, 8kms away, is partly closed.
French gendarmes block the access to Dammartin-en-Goele. Photograph: Denis Charlet/AFP/Getty Images
1.30pm
Reports that an armed man has taken a hostage in a Jewish grocery store at Porte de Vincennes in Paris.
French police take position by the kosher grocery store in Saint-Mande, eastern Paris. Photograph: Eric Feferberg/AFP/Getty Images
2pm
Reports say the man suspected of killing a policewoman in Paris on Thursday is the hostage taker at the supermarket, and is holding around five people. Initial reports say people have been injured, but police later say this is not the case.
Special forces gather outside a kosher supermarket in east Paris. Photograph: Thomas Samson/AFP/Getty Images
2.30pm
Police name two people wanted in connection with the case. They are Amedy Coulibaly and Hayat Boumeddiene, the first of whom is reported as the supermarket hostage taker. He has a long criminal history.
Hayat Boumeddiene and Amedy Coulibaly. Photograph: Prefecture de police/EPA
Just before 5pm
Shots and explosions are heard at the siege at Dammartin-en-Goële, and heavily-armed counter-terror officers are seen moving in. The Charlie Hebdo gunmen are reported to have been killed and the hostage there freed.
Smoke rises as special forces enter the building on an industrial estate where suspects linked to the Charlie Hebdo killings were holding a hostage. Photograph: Christopher Furlong/Getty Images
5.15pm
Loud bangs are heard at the site of the supermarket siege, with pictures showing some hostages being led out by police. Shortly afterwards, reports say the hostage takers at Dammartin-en-Goële, Chérif and Saïd Kouachi, were killed in the assault, as was the supermarket hostage taker, named in reports again as Amedy Coulibaly.
7pm
The French president, François Hollande, confirms that four hostages were killed and four wounded in the supermarket in Paris.
Special forces launch an assault on the kosher supermarket in Paris. Photograph: Gabrielle Chatelain/AFP/Getty Images
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/09/-sp-charlie-hebdo-timeline-events
...
The Discrepencies
I find the Charlie Hebdo magazine and it's history itself suspicious and think it warrants further investigation as to the backgrounds and connections of the cartoonists themselves and the people who were supposed to be protecting them.
I mean c'mon... who could not have seen something like this happening or a strong possibility, why were they so determined on this path of antagonization, to the point of risking their own lives, the sake of free speech? or is there more to it that has to do with political/intelligence agency/connections/maneuverings.
Why did they not have more protection like say...armed police outside of it's newspaper headquarters when there were so many of them apparently in the offices considering the previous threats/attacks and the things that were being published in the magazine itself? Why is certain 'free speech' protected and other 'free speech' not at all?
Whoever is responsible it is good to look at ALL sides.
As far as the side of those who believe the MOSSAD and French Security Services were behind it you have such things as (haven't verified the accuracy of some of it):
quote:
Suspects left ID cards in getaway car.
There were police INSIDE the Charlie Hebdo offices BEFORE the attack took place.
Two officers who had been assigned to protect editor and cartoonist Stephane Charbonnier for the past several years came down from an upper floor and intercepted the gunmen. How is it that the police seemed so useless?
A journalist at Charlie Hebdo let the gunmen into the heavily protected offices.
Strangely, there were no armed police outside the offices.
There were heavily armed police in the vicinity and all over the centre of Paris.
"Outside the building, as the gunmen tried to flee in their Citroën van, three officers in a police patrol car intercepted them.
"Two suspects got out of the van...
"An officer ...ran toward the suspects. But the officer was shot and wounded by the suspects. He was executed with a shot to the head as he lay on the sidewalk."
After this policeman was 'shot' in the head with blanks, there is no sign of blood. (people are still arguing over this)
Google has been removing the videos that show this (possible) fake shot.
There are 3 different accounts of who this policeman was.
In one account he an officer who emerged from a police car.
In another account he is a policeman who came out of a police station.
And in a third account he is a policeman who was on a bicycle.
"After killing the officer, the gunmen returned to their car, shouting, 'We avenged the Prophet Muhammad,' the source said."
Mossad and the French security services appear to have had their posters printed in advance? (were they printed in advance? who printed them and how quickly were they dispersed?
There certainly is a wide ranging Je suis Charlie' movement taking place including CIA asset George Clooney and his wife taking part in it at the largely watched Golden Globes ceremony. Exactly who or what organizations are behind this movement?)
Amchai Stein, the deputy editor of Israeli IBA Channel 1, just happened to be at the scene and has been posting photos of the shooting.
In false flag attacks, the alleged terrorists allegedly leave behind identity cards or passports.
In false flag attacks, the authorities often give conflicting evidence.
In false flag attacks, the security services need 'patsies'.
Several of Hamyd's school friends have taken to Twitter saying he was in class with them at the time of the attack.
The Kouachi brothers have secular (non religious) backgrounds
nytimes
Said Kouachi, 34, and his brother Cherif, 32, were orphans who were brought up in a care home in Rennes in northern France.
The CIA and its friends like to mind-control orphans from children's homes to turn them into useful patsies.
The brothers had menial jobs such as pizza delivery man, and shop assistant.
What was the purpose of the 7 January 2015 attack on the offices of the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo by assets of Mossad? (IF that was the case or a possibility of it being the case)
Charlie Hebdo has reportedly made fun of the Mossad agent Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (Simon Elliot).
Mossad reportedly wants revenge for:
French MPs voting in favour of a Palestinian state.
France voting against Israel at the UN.
The objective of the attack is to turn public opinion in favour of Israel.
Does the shooting of the policeman look totally fake?
Twelve people, 10 journalists and two policemen, were reportedly killed.
Amchai Stein, the deputy editor of Israeli IBA Channel 1, just happened to be at the scene and has been posting photos of the shooting.
"Two black-hooded men entered the building with Kalashnikovs. A few minutes later we heard lots of shots," a witness told local TV station iTele, adding that the men were then seen fleeing the building.
The attackers spoke perfect French and reportedly said that they support the CIA militia called al Qaeda.
Charlie Hebdo's editor-in-chief Gerard Biard escaped the attack because he was in London.
The Telegraph's David Blair writes that the
Paris gunmen showed advanced military skills:
'The gunmen who killed twelve people in and around the office of Charlie Hebco magazine in Paris acted with a skill and calmness that bears all the hallmarks of advanced military training." (this does not prove it to have been MOSSAD etc.. but one has to wonder how men with such advanced training could have escaped the nose of the French Security Services etc..)
http://aanirfan.blogspot.ca/2015/01/mossad-attacks-paris.html
So there are a few reasons why a certain portion of the people think or at least suspect as they do. Instead of making this personal (on either side) why not post why this scenario is suspect or post counter with some specifics as to why there are reasons to believe it is as the official narrative is saying based on the case so far.
I will post as well info I come across if it is reasonably and logically pointing to this being a genuine radicalized Muslim attack upon the offices of Charlie Hebco magazine. The magazine's history of receiving threats, having been subjected to attacks, the cartoonists needing police protection and published material that would have been extremely offensive to some is a case in point.
Just found this:
quote:
Israeli Newspaper Gets Waves Of Death Threats Over Cartoon – Threats That Came From Israel’s Jewish Right-Wing, Not From Radical Islam
Ha'aretz cartoon in memory of the Charlie Hebdo journalists murdered in Paris terror attack 1-11-2015 “We must do what the terrorists did to them in France, but at Haaretz." "Why is there no terror attack at Haaretz?” “Let the terrorists eliminate them." “With God’s help, the journalists at Haaretz will be murdered just like in France."
Above: The Ha'aretz cartoon. The caption reads, "10 journalists killed in attack on Charlie Hebdo in Paris, about 13 journalists killed last summer in attack on Gaza.”
The Israeli daily newspaper Ha’aretz ran a cartoon (pictured above) Friday in memory of the 10 Charlie Hebdo journalists killed in Wednesday’s terror attack.
The caption reads: “10 journalists killed in attack on Charlie Hebdo in Paris, about 13 journalists killed last summer in attack on Gaza.”
The cartoon was clearly not Ha’aretz’s own editorial cartoon and was instead one of several published in memory of the slain Paris cartoonists by the paper.
Nonetheless, Israel’s religious and political right-wing was quick to jump on the publication and to use the cartoon
as a basis to pass a new law limiting free speech. And right-wing supporters were quick to call for the death of the Ha’aretz cartoonist and the paper’s editors and journalists.
According a report in Ha'aretz, Ronen Shoval, who is in charge of the right-wing Zionist Orthodox Habayit Hayehudi Party’s primary elections and a founder of the neo-fascist Im Tirtzu Movement – an Israeli court noted that Im Tirtzu fascist "similarities” – called on Facebook for a new law to be passed limiting free speech and blaming the Paris terror attack on “incitement” of Muslims by the cartoonists.
“If we have learned anything, it is that terror attacks are the result of an atmosphere of incitement.…Unfortunately, [Israel’s] attorney general will not do a thing, as usual. But determined lawmakers can change this situation,” Shoval reportedly wrote on Facebook.
His readers responded with a wave of death threats against Ha’aretz editors, journalists and the cartoonist.
“We must do what the terrorists did to them in France, but at Haaretz,” Facebook user Chai Aloni wrote.
“Why is there no terror attack at Haaretz?” Moni Ponte, another Facebook user, asked.
“Let the terrorists eliminate them,” Daniella Peretz added.
“With God’s help, the journalists at Haaretz will be murdered just like in France,” Miki Dahan wrote.
“They should die,” Danit Hajaj added.
“Haaretz is where the terrorists should have gone,” Riki Michael insisted.
“Death to traitors,” Moshe Mehager responded.
“I hope that terrorism reaches Haaretz as well,” Tuval Shalom prayed.
“With God’s help, [there will be] a Hamas operation that kills all of you [Ha’aretz journalists], like the journalists in France,” Ruti Hevroni warned.
Haaretz’s editorial staff responded by noting the absolute tone-deafness of the right-wing followers of Shoval.
“It is astonishing that in the framework of the global debate over freedom of expression and freedom of the press, and at a time when journalists have been killed over the existence of this right, Internet users are demanding that Haaretz completely censor a cartoon whose content they do not like. [The cartoon represents] the personal view of the cartoonist, just as the cartoons in Charlie Hebdo expressed the opinions of the cartoonists who worked there and were published in the name of freedom of expression, even though they were provocative and angered many people. The role of caricature, or of any other visual message, is to arouse thought and debate,” a spokesman for Haaretz’s editorial staff reportedly said.
Sunday afternoon Israel time, Shoval promised Ha’aretz that he would remove the offending comments from his Facebook page – but in a manner almost as completely tone deaf as many of his readers, Shoval linked his possible removal of those illegal comments to Ha’aretz removing the perfectly legal cartoon Shoval hates.
"Thank you for drawing my attention to the severe comments posted on my page. I will make sure to erase them quickly; as you said, I understand that incitement leads to murder. In the same breath, I ask you to remove the caricature immediately."
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/fa...-that-came-from-israels-jewish-right-123.html
‘With God’s help, the journalists at Haaretz will be murdered just like in France': Death threats follow publication of cartoon in Israeli newspaper
In the wake of the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris last week Haaretz published a daring cartoon juxtaposing journalists* killed in Gaza by Israel during the brutal summer slaughter with the journalists killed at the office of the satirical magazine in Paris. This set off a chain reaction which ultimately led to calls for murdering Haaretz journalists after Ronen Shoval, founder of the neo-Zionist and proto-fascist Im Tirtzu movement, called for an investigation of the newspaper’s editors.
The offending cartoon by Noa Olchowski was published with a series of cartoons Haaretz ran in their Hebrew edition, a project by the site’s graphic designers to pay tribute to Charlie Hebdo cartoonists gunned down at the magazine’s Paris office. Including the hashtags #JeSuisCharlie and #JeSuisGaza it reads (original Hebrew):
10 journalists killed in attack on Charlie Hebdo in Paris (top), about 13 journalists killed last summer in attack on Gaza (bottom).
Shoval, who is running in the primary election of the religious Zionist Habayit Hayehudi “Jewish Home” political party called for the investigation “on suspicion of ‘defeatist propaganda’ under Statute 103 of Israel’s penal code” on his Facebook page. Users of the social media site weighed in, Haaretz reported several of the threats:
A raft of death threats came in. “We must do what the terrorists did to them in France, but at Haaretz,” wrote Facebook user Chai Aloni. “Why is there no terror attack at Haaretz?” wrote Moni Ponte.
“Let the terrorists eliminate them,” wrote Daniella Peretz. “With God’s help, the journalists at Haaretz will be murdered just like in France,” wrote Miki Dahan. As Danit Hajaj put it, “They should die.”
“Haaretz is where the terrorists should have gone,” wrote Riki Michael. “Death to traitors,” added Moshe Mehager. “I hope that terrorism reaches Haaretz as well,” wrote Tuval Shalom. “With God’s help, [there will be] a Hamas operation that kills all of you, like the journalists in France,” wrote Ruti Hevroni.
Haaretz’s editorial staff said the cartoons published in the project were a personal gesture by the newspaper’s designers, not the editorial board, and this is how they were presented.
After the recent alarming death threats a spokesperson for Haaretz’s editorial staff had this to say:
It is astonishing that in the framework of the global debate over freedom of expression and freedom of the press, and at a time when journalists have been killed over the existence of this right, Internet users are demanding that Haaretz completely censor a cartoon whose content they do not like.”
Shoval and his Im Tirtzu movement are no strangers to controversial cartoons.
Fan site of “Hamila Ha-Achrona” (“The Last Word”) cartoon captures Im Tirzu caricature of New Israel Fund president Naomi Chazan.
Shoval and his Im Tirtzu movement are no strangers to controversial cartoons.
After initiating a smear campaign described as a “witchhunt” against New Israel Fund’s, Naomi Chazan depicting her wearing a horn, a popular fan site for an Army Radio talk show published Im Tirtzu’s caricature of Chazan as the devil being stabbed by Herzl himself.
Im Tirtzu blamed Chazen and NIF for the results of the Goldstone report and the ensuing “deligitimization” of Israel after Operation Cast Lead in 2008: “92 percent of [the] negative references to the IDF in the Goldstone report originating with Israeli sources came from organizations sponsored by NIF [New Israeli Fund].”
* 15 journalists and media workers were killed during operation “Protective Edge,” the Israeli government deliberately targets and murders journalists.
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/01/journalists-publication-newspaper#sthash.WajY9zpF.dpuf
...and there's more...
(special thanks to Sarah (a non Muslim) from Vigilant forum for sharing this info)
further, here are some comments from non Muslims at vf:
Zeke said:
police officer supposedly shot down; where is the blood? not a single drop, whilst 'pinned to the ground'
after being shot, after getting hit by a high-calibre automatic rifle. highly doubtfull
headshot at 12 seconds mark, but no movement of the head at all - impossible after getting close-struck
by a high-calibre rifle. neither is there a single blood mark. not one. no blood that surrounds him,
nothing. impossible. such a high calibre should leave brain, skull and blood all over the place in a significant spread.
neither is there a muzzle flash of the high-calibre gun. not once, but there is a significant suspicious 'smoke' 'plume'
that looks very much like that of shooting blanks.
the 8 seconds full view on the officer after this event, not a single blood drop visible. not from the point blank shot
to the head, not from the supposed shots to the belly or leg, nothing. no way.
this is acting.
and even more;
they supposedly found their ID-cards??????????????????????? really?
they LEFT the ID-cards in the black car when they ditched it in the middle of paris? who does that? what terrorist goes out for a terrorist attack, takes his id card with him, leaves it out of his wallet in the car, then goes on a rampage, and leave it inside the car? nobody, that's who.
I'm calling BS on lots of this. I can't say nobody was killed in the office, i wasn't there. But the oddities are plentyful instantaneously.
...
Artful Revealer said:
One of the hitmen forgot/left his ID-card in his runaway car for the police to pick up. What are the odds ... Doesn't seem like something that would happen to what appears to be two professional assassins. Smells like Mossad / Pentagon all over the place.
Even the non Muslim truthers know what the real deal is here... this was a set up.
Scimi
