The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity.

[OmAbdullah]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

The religion of all of the Prophets from Adam alaihi salaam to the Final Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم has been Islam only. The true followers of Jesus and Muses (Eisa and Musa عليهما السلام ) were Muslims.

When the followers of Jesus ( Eisa عليه السلام ) turned away from His Path of Islam and got involved in polytheism, Christianity came into being.
When the followers of Muses ( Musa عليه السلام ) turned away from His Path of Islam, Judaism came into being.

 

[Nakai]

Do you have proof of this?

 

[OmAbdullah]

Do you have proof of this?

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Peace,

I have answered your question in the other thread. I hope that you read it.
Here also I can give you proof from the Holy Quraan which is Muhaimin on the previous Heavenly Books ( Muhaimin means that all that truth which was sent down by Almighty God to the previous Prophets is preserved in the Holy Quraan. Therefore to know exactly the message of your Prophet Jesus (Eisa alaihi salaam) you must read the Holy Quraan. The chapters that have statement about Jesus and Mary are many but I will write the names of a few of them. These are:

Surah Aal-i- Imran ( The family of Imran, please remember that Imran was the father of Mary (Maryam)), verses: 33—60

In the same chapter verses 65 – 68 are about Abraham (Ibrahim alaihi salaam). In verse 67 Allah said that Ibrahim (alaihi salaam) was neither Jew nor Christian, but he was a pure/true Muslim and he was not from the idolators.

This is another proof that Ibrahim alaihi salaam (Abraham) was a Muslim and thus His religion was Islam.
Again please note in the verse 52 the disciples saying to Jesus, “ Be witness that we are Muslims”.
This proves that the true followers of Jesus and his disciples were Muslims, so their religion was Islam.
You may be knowing that Jesus and His mother were from the children of Israel. Israel is the second name of Yaqoob alaihi salaam. He was the son of Is-haaq alaihi salaam and the grand son of Ibrahim alaihi salaam. He also was a Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings be upon him). His name in Bible is Jacob. In the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] chapter of the Holy Quraan Allah said:

Or were you witnesses when death approached Ya'qub (Jacob)? When he said unto his sons, "What will you worship after me?" They said, "We shall worship your Ilah (God - Allah), the Ilah (God) of your fathers, Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), One Ilah (God), and to Him we submit (in Islam)." Chapter 2 (Al Baqarah) verse 133

This verse proves that the religion of the children of Israel was Islam, Thus the religion of Muses and Jesus was Islam only.

Allah is the only one God who has no son no father and no relative. God is High Above such qualities. The same One God sent all of the Prophets for the guidance of mankind and Almighty God chose only Islam to be the religion of all mankind. No other religion will be accepted from mankind. See verse 19 of the same chapter Aal-i-Imran.

Other chapters about Jesus:
Surah (chapter) Maryam (Mary) verses 16—40
Surah (chapter) Al-Maa’idah verses 17, 72—76, and 110—120.

You will also find many great miracles of Jesus in these chapters. His name was Eisa and His Mother’s name was Maryam but people changed their names too.

 

[OmAbdullah]

Allah سبحانه و تعالى said in the Holy Quraan, chapter Aali-Imran, verse 19:

Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, then surely, Allah is Swift in calling to account.

 

[Peacetoall]

If i Do Gods will,but Refuse organized religion,what would you call me? I am studying Both the Quraan and the Bible, both tell you to defend yourself, but also forgive. yes Jesus did say turn the other cheek, but this was with a hand, not a gun or sword, i don't believe god would want us to just let another abuse us.

 

[sister herb]

If i Do Gods will,but Refuse organized religion,what would you call me? I am studying Both the Quraan and the Bible, both tell you to defend yourself, but also forgive. yes Jesus did say turn the other cheek, but this was with a hand, not a gun or sword, i don't believe god would want us to just let another abuse us.

Peace with you

How you call yourself?

 

[Wllmdrg]

I don't label myself, just try and obey god

 

[Karl]

Jesus was a devout Jew.
The Jews were highly influenced by the Greeks and Egyptians, Babylonians etc. Christianity was started by the Holy Roman Church big time. When a man is worshipped as God that makes it a cult or maybe a more complex pagan religion.

 

[Peacetoall]

While this is historically right, Christians Christmas and Easter taken directly from nimrods Babylon itself, what does it have to do with me doing gods will? I follow the ten commandments, and try to help all others by helping society however I can. But I don't understand why you even brought up Judaism?

 

[Peacetoall]

Jesus was a devout Jew.
The Jews were highly influenced by the Greeks and Egyptians, Babylonians etc. Christianity was started by the Holy Roman Church big time. When a man is worshiped as God that makes it a cult or maybe a more complex pagan religion.

are you saying this to me or the person who asked for proof, i do not understand? I am Not a Jew/or a Roman Catholic. I just try to understand God and do his will, but i stay away from organized religions because logically this is where the majority of all problems with the mass deaths have occurred in this world. so I try to do Gods will without anyone else telling me what to do but god, thus why i am studying all views. I'm not saying Islam is wrong, but i tend to not mesh well with others because of my disabilities. I dont always say what i mean because of massive brain damage, so the possibility that through speech, i might offend someone is far more likely then when i type. Peace to you.

 

[Insaanah]

Jesus was a devout Jew.

Isa alayhissalaam (Jesus, peace be on him) was a devout Muslim.

The religion of Moosa, ‘Eesa and all the Prophets was, generally speaking, Islam, which means believing in the Oneness of Allaah (Tawheed) and worshipping Him alone with no partner or associate, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Truly, the religion with Allaah is Islam”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:19]

“And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]

And He tells us that Nooh (peace be upon him) said (interpretation of the meaning):

“and I have been commanded to be of the Muslims (i.e. those who submit to Allaah’s Will)”

[Yoonus 10:72]

And He tells us of Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning):

“Ibraaheem (Abraham) was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was a true Muslim Haneefa (Islamic Monotheism — to worship none but Allaah Alone) and he was not of Al‑Mushrikoon”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:67]

And He tells us that Moosa (peace be upon him) said (interpretation of the meaning):

“ ‘O my people! If you have believed in Allaah, then put your trust in Him if you are Muslims (those who submit to Allaah’s Will)’”

[Yoonus 10:84]

And He tells us that Yoosuf (peace be upon him) said (interpretation of the meaning):

“ ‘Cause me to die as a Muslim (the one submitting to Your Will), and join me with the righteous’”

[Yoosuf 12:101]

So it cannot be said of Moosa that his religion was Judaism, rather his religion was Islam, and his followers were called Jews (al-Yahood) because they said Hidna ilayka i.e., we have repented and come back; or because they are called after Yehoodhah (Judah) the oldest of the sons of Ya’qoob (Jacob – peace be upon him). Similarly, the religion of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) was Islam, not Christianity. The Christians (al-Nasaarah) are his followers who supported him (nasaruhu).

But he (peace be upon him) was a follower of the Tawraat (Torah), who followed and affirmed it, because he was one of the Children of Israel, to whom Moosa (peace be upon him) had been sent, then Allaah revealed to him the Injeel (Gospel) in which was a confirmation of what was in the Torah, as stated above.

What we have mentioned means that the religion brought by ‘Eesa was Islam, if what the questioner meant was to find out and ask about his religion.

But if he was asking about the lineage of the Messiah (peace be upon him) and the people among whom he was born and to whom he was sent, then the Prophet of Allaah ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) was indisputably one of the Children of Israel, the Children of Israel who subsequently became known as the Jews, as we have indicated above.

What the scholars state here is that he is to be attributed to his lineage and people, so it may be said that he was one of the Children of Israel. As for the word “Jew”, it is used to refer to a specific religion, so it should be avoided when referring to ‘Eesa (peace be upon him), even though we know that his people were the Children of Israel who used to follow the law of the Torah before him, and he came to confirm what was in it except for a few rulings which he changed.

http://islamqa.info/en/116826

 

[Karl]

Isa alayhissalaam (Jesus, peace be on him) was a devout Muslim.



http://islamqa.info/en/116826

Ok I will clarify Jesus (PBUH) was a follower of the Torah and Talmud. It is true the word "Jew" was not in use back then. They were a dusky Semitic people called Hebrews and later when they invaded the land of the Canaanites, called Israelites. Saying Jesus was a Muslim is technically wrong as Islam did not exist back then. But if you have the point of view that Jehovah and Allah are the same God I suppose you have a point. It would be like a Roman pagan saying a Greek pagan worships Jupiter when in fact the Greek worshipped Zeus. It is a matter of semantics.

 

[Abz2000]

Assalamu'alaikum wr wb

Allah swt tells us that Abraham was neither a jew nor christian but a sincere Muslim,
- the tribe called jews came into existence later - his pbuh grandson was Isra-eel (ya'qub),
However it must be clear the jesus was a jewish Muslim (or person from the tribe of Jews (or children of Israel) who submitted to Allah - but preferred the universal term - son of man).

Allah confirms that those among the descendents of ya'qub pbuh who were called jews were Muslims when they submitted:

[5.44] Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light;
with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews,
and the masters of Divine knowledge and the doctors, because they were required to guard (part) of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereof;
therefore fear not the people and fear Me, and do not take a small price for My signs,
and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the infidels.

'إِنَّا أَنْزَلْنَا التَّوْرَاةَ فِيهَا هُدًى وَنُورٌ ۚ يَحْكُمُ بِهَا النَّبِيُّونَ الَّذِينَ
أَسْلَمُوا
لِلَّذِينَ هَادُوا وَالرَّبَّانِيُّونَ وَالْأَحْبَارُ بِمَا اسْتُحْفِظُوا مِنْ كِتَابِ اللَّهِ وَكَانُوا عَلَيْهِ شُهَدَاءَ ۚ فَلَا تَخْشَوُا النَّاسَ وَاخْشَوْنِ وَلَا تَشْتَرُوا بِآيَاتِي ثَمَنًا قَلِيلًا ۚ وَمَنْ لَمْ يَحْكُمْ بِمَا أَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ فَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْكَافِرُونَ (44)' [سورة المائدة]


with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews,

The operative term here is ASLAMOO.

 

[Karl]

I suppose it is a question of meaning and language. Did Abraham speak Arabic? Did he say Allah? Did he call himself a Muslim? Did he follow the five pillars of Islam?
I believe (I might be wrong) that the meaning in calling Abraham a Muslim is that he was a slave of the one true God and not a polytheist that most people were in those days.

 

[Abz2000]

I suppose it is a question of meaning and language. Did Abraham speak Arabic? Did he say Allah? Did he call himself a Muslim? Did he follow the five pillars of Islam?
I believe (I might be wrong) that the meaning in calling Abraham a Muslim is that he was a slave of the one true God and not a polytheist that most people were in those days.

That's what it's meant to mean, the fact that we fall short of standards doesn't give it a separate meaning.

God tells the angels and iblis to prostrate to clay - if they refuse they are comitting a major sin.
God forbids adam from prostraing to clay - if man does so he is commiting major sin.

The clay or tribal dna composition is not of significance but the command is.

 

[Karl]

That's what it's meant to mean, the fact that we fall short of standards doesn't give it a separate meaning.

God tells the angels and iblis to prostrate to clay - if they refuse they are comitting a major sin.
God forbids adam from prostraing to clay - if man does so he is commiting major sin.

The clay or tribal dna composition is not of significance but the command is.

Ok I understand. Let's say a Marxist said that a group of ancient people were Marxists because they lived in a commune. That would be totally wrong. But Islam comes (excuse my crass writing, my English is poor) from the old testament and some of the new, a sort of new edition of both. An accessible version for the common folk for at first to enlighten the superstitious Arab pagans and to spread across the world. The only anomaly I have come across is on the issue of blood money. It is very similar to the law of the northerners that worshipped the Norse gods or "the old way". Check out the "Icelandic Sagas".

 

[Abz2000]

Islam isn't comparable to marxism in this context though, the same Source created and revealed directly through the Prophets which makes submission to the will of that source one way of life until and unless there is rejection of that message or later messages which override earlier declarations.
And if other tribes or generations have used similar legislation, it is possible that it has trickled down as an accepted working model, and since Islam is a working model it only confirms the truth. Doesn't mean that just because a pagan tribe had a similar inheritance law or punishment for theft or method of encompassing a focal centre when praying - that Islam must reject it in order to be different, if they had a similar method, their experiences or fitrah or assimilation of a previous monotheist Muslim nation who used it possibly guided them by Allah's leave - good for them.

Here's a little tidbit that may shed some light on how names evolved, we know frome the Quran that they were originally known as nasranee or nasuaaraa, and from what remains of the new testament "nazarenes or nazarites originating from the name of the town "Nazareth".

The book of acts itself describes how the term christians or masiheens or whatever it may have been came about:

New International Version

and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people.

The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

New Living Translation

When he found him, he brought him back to Antioch. Both of them stayed there with the church for a full year, teaching large crowds of people. (It was at Antioch that the believers were first called Christians.)

Acts 11:26

Antioch being in greece streches the timeline a bit.

 

[Karl]

Very good answer Abz2000. And since the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the last of the messenger prophets there can be no changes, reforms, modernizations or sects, cults or whatever.

The phrase "the Nazarene" is usually said spitefully by witches and servants of Satan, when talking of Jesus (PBUH) as it galls them to give him any respect. So keep on the lookout for people who talk like that.

 

[Abz2000]

They adopted the name themselves when they chose to uphold the status quo as being separate from the main body of jews who had stuck with the national priests and rabbis who were under the dominion of cesar.

From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.
Quran Ch.5 V.14

The Arabic words used above contain "innaa nasuaara" (verily/truly/cartainly we are nasuaaraa)
So it appears that the people who followed that way used the term and were responsive to it as can be seen from the hadith regarding the question of scholar worship by Adiyy ibn Haatim atTayy.

Can't have been as slang as n*gguh (even though black rappers love using it).
Was also used by indians:

Nasrani, an ethnoreligious group from Kerala, India, named after the Syriac Aramaic term for Christians.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene


The*Saint Thomas Christians, also called*Syrian Christians*or*Nasrani, are a community of*Christians*from*Kerala,*India, who trace their origins to the evangelistic activity of*Saint Thomas*in the 1st century,
and is one of the oldest Christian communities of the world.[3][4]*
The community was historically united in leadership and liturgy, but since the 17th century have been split into several different church denominations and traditions.
They are also known, especially locally, as the*Nasrani*or*Nasrani Mappila. "Nasrani" is a term meaning "Christian"; it appears to be derived from*Nazareth, the home town of Jesus.

 

[OmAbdullah]

Assalamu'alaikum wr wb

Allah swt tells us that Abraham was neither a jew nor christian but a sincere Muslim,
- the tribe called jews came into existence later - his pbuh grandson was Isra-eel (ya'qub),
However it must be clear the jesus was a jewish Muslim (or person from the tribe of Jews (or children of Israel) who submitted to Allah - but preferred the universal term - son of man).

Allah confirms that those among the descendents of ya'qub pbuh who were called jews were Muslims when they submitted:

[5.44] Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light;
with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews,
and the masters of Divine knowledge and the doctors, because they were required to guard (part) of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereof;
therefore fear not the people and fear Me, and do not take a small price for My signs,
and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the infidels.

'إِنَّا أَنْزَلْنَا التَّوْرَاةَ فِيهَا هُدًى وَنُورٌ ۚ يَحْكُمُ بِهَا النَّبِيُّونَ الَّذِينَ
أَسْلَمُوا
لِلَّذِينَ هَادُوا وَالرَّبَّانِيُّونَ وَالْأَحْبَارُ بِمَا اسْتُحْفِظُوا مِنْ كِتَابِ اللَّهِ وَكَانُوا عَلَيْهِ شُهَدَاءَ ۚ فَلَا تَخْشَوُا النَّاسَ وَاخْشَوْنِ وَلَا تَشْتَرُوا بِآيَاتِي ثَمَنًا قَلِيلًا ۚ وَمَنْ لَمْ يَحْكُمْ بِمَا أَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ فَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْكَافِرُونَ (44)' [سورة المائدة]


with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews,

The operative term here is ASLAMOO.

It is very wrong to call Eisa (Jesus) alaihi salaam, "son of man". It is not befitting for a Muslim to use such words of unbelief. Surely, Eisa (jesus) alaihi salaam was the son of a woman only and he is called "Eisa Ibn Maryam" every where in the Holy Quraan.