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Critics of Islam have look at the concept of "Houris" (translated as "maidens" though they are not human and are said to be unlike anything we can imagine in this world because our imagination is in limits) and criticized the sensual nature of Paradise.
So, first, before I address your question, I'd like to further clarify the matter:
Not only martyrs but also ordinary everyday men who practice constant istighfar (asking forgiveness from God) are given Houris too and also any men who have worked for Paradise by following the proscriptions in Islam at the cost of their nafs (ego). However, there's a prophetic tradition that I noted above promises specifically Houris to martyrs alongside other rewards (which notably Islamophobes use against Muslims as a form of "insult").
Better to describe what is true rather than what those who ungratefully and unlawfully show infidelity to God say that is wrong, as it appears that they occupy a large portion of the forefront of one's mind.
In Islam, as you may note, men and women are forbidden to engage in any premarital intimacy with the opposite gender before marriage. Islamic scholars note that one of the differences between angels and human beings is the nafs (ego). Islamic scholars say that if God had not put nafs inside of man, none of us would care about eating or engaging in physical intimacy with the opposite sex as we'd only be busy with God's remembrance. So, any person who succeeds in God's remembrance despite the obstacle that nafs and dominates the nafs in this world is given an awesome reward in the next world (and one of the rewards God has relayed is Houris for men). Also, Paradise, despite its sensual pleasures, like eating tasty foods and other physical pleasures, is filled with God's remembrance and adoration and in fact that remembrance and adoration is omnipresent in all heavenly activities.
Paradise is the eternal reward after passing of the worldly tests, retirement from work with a high stipend and full benefits in this world is the reward after the worldly test, unlike getting a high paid job after studying hard whilst others play and get drunk. However, by the time most people are retiring from work in this world, they're too old to really get to enjoy it as a 25 year old would.
Well, as to what women get in Paradise, again, Islamic scholars say that females are honored too. And any person in Paradise gets whatever they want - so, it could be anything that in this instance the female martyr wants, and what God can give can't be said to be limited by humans as divine honor has no beginning nor end. For example, a prophetic tradition relays that there was a farmer and he loved to cultivate land. So, he asks God to give him land to cultivate in Paradise. For that farmer, that was what he wished, and so God grants him that wish. So, anything is possible, and no one can limit what is possible, given that for God anything is possible.
Whereas humans do not know, God knows best exactly what humans will get, some of it has been described in worldly terms for the human mind to comprehend, however God has explained to us that the rewards are what no eye has seen and no mind can perceive.
There is absolutely no need to hypothesize and conjecture about orgies when no such information has been provided.
(1) Abu Huraira reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying that: Allah the Exalted and Glorious, said: I have prepared for My pious servants which no eye has ever seen, and no ear has ever heard, and no human heart has ever perceived but it is testified by the Book of Allah. He then recited:" No soul knows what comfort has been concealed from them, as a reward for what they did". (xxxii. 17) (Book #040, Hadith #6780)
(2) Abu Huraira reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, said: I have prepared for My pious servants which no eye (has ever) seen, no ear has (ever) heard and no human heart has ever perceived those bounties leaving apart (those bounties) about which Allah has informed you. (Book #040, Hadith #6781)
(3) Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said that Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, said: I have prepared for My pious servants which the eye has seen not, and the ear has heard not and no human heart has ever perceived such bounties leaving aside those about which Allah has informed you. He then recited:" No soul knows what comfort has been hidden for thein". (Book #040, Hadith #6782)
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http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=9720
That said, I have not come across any prophetic tradition noting what females get; and so all we know is that females get what will equally make them happy. And I should note that your question is very male, and perhaps even coming from the notion that believing females would want perhaps the same things as men? To be perfectly honest, I don't believe that's the case; and in fact perhaps getting the same thing as men would get would be oppressive as what women want and men want are different even in dunya (this world). For example, believing men, due the aforesaid nafs (ego), might have the desires for many women in dunya (this world) even if they refrain from acting on that nafs' (ego's) desire. However, despite the nafs (ego) present in believing women, I'm fairly confident they only desire to be loved by one man, Mr. Right a.k.a. their Prince Charming, if you will, not by many "hunks."
It doesn't mean that if a man or woman did have perverted inclinations or satanic waswas in this world, that God would create the same in paradise, therefore the reasoning provided doesn't hold to scrutiny. Again, i say: God knows best.
Now, let's reverse and play a hypothetical scenario: You tell me, imagine, God can grant you any wish in Paradise? You want a car, say. So, you ask God for a car in Heaven. But is that car honor for you in Heaven?
Someone might want to race their friends, then they might ask for skills according to their skills in dunya.
Talking about such is safer than talking about orgies of which there is absolutely no knowledge.
My sheikh (Islamic teacher) (may Allah bless him) taught that while Houris and other rewards are given to people of Paradise, it is not real honor for mankind to ask God for that, but that God gives human beings those things because of their sacrifices made in dunya (this world). My sheikh (Islamic teacher) (may Allah bless him) used to say that mankind should instead ask for God himself and God's endless pleasure as that is real honor.
There are levels in Paradises; and man acquires what he wants but this is according to his intentions in dunya (this world), and if he intended to get rewards and booty in Paradise, then that's what he will get.
However, there is the other type of man, that recognizes real honor is not to get these rewards and booty but be with the Owner of All and Author of All Rewards and Booty. That type of man, to give him rewards and booty in Paradise, is to throw him in prison because that man was not in love with the "things" of the world and is also not in love with the "things" of Paradise. Instead, the man is in love with the Owner of Paradise. So, the only honor for this type of man is then to be given the honor to be with God all the time and it is this type of man endlessly favored and honored by God.
Did your sheikh ever tell you to do your best to provide sources where possible? Especially on issues of contention?
Sort of like providing a hadith with a link, or a verse with a link, a sultuaan, rather than just claiming kadha wa kadha.
Verily, those who dispute about the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, without any authority having come to them, there is nothing else in their breasts except pride [to accept you (Muhammad SAW) as a Messenger of Allah and to obey you]. They will never have it (i.e. Prophethood which Allah has bestowed upon you). So seek refuge in Allah (O Muhammad SAW from the arrogants). Verily, it is He Who is the All- Hearer, the All-Seer.
Quran 40:56
I can provide you with sheikhs telling you that it is ok to go and pray to graves of saints, or that writing numbers on amulets and charming people with them is fine, but the words of such sheikhs would hold no weight unless there was a Quranic source or other clear reasoning,
However, the phenomena is not new, just that some prefer to use their intellect to reason the unerring basis of the Quran rather than dump all their false reasonings on the backs of so called scholars who mislead many and themselves go astray.
Whoever Obeys a Scholar or a Ruler by Prohibiting What Allah Has Permitted or Permitting What Allah Has Prohibited Has Taken Them as Partners Beside Allah
Ibn `Abbas (ra) said: "Stones are about to rain down upon you from the sky: I say to you: "Allah's Messenger**said..." and you reply: "But Abu Bakr and `Umar said...?"*
http://www.islamicweb.com/beliefs/creed/abdulwahab/KT1-chap-36.htm
Is what I've written above believed to be true to today? Of course.
By whom? sources please.
[pygoscelis;2863257]You say you give a clear answer but then you give me such airy language. Do you or do you not take the intention of dominating and/or destroying others and other ways of life? And if you do, then does that not justify people who hold such other ways of life dear to dominate and/or destroy you and your way of life before you do it to them? If so, then why do you complain about western aggression so often? You appear to justify it.
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Please explain which part was airy,
The next part appeared more rhetorical than question, as is to be expected from one who spends years on an islamic forum asking the same questions while in dispute, telling Muslims how the unlawful acts against them are justified, and how Muslims would be liked more by straying liberals if they accept that homosexuality and infidelity are ok.
...however, since you prose it as a question and this is a forum, i shall reply in detail regarding what i personally believe,
Regarding "dominating and/or destroying others and other ways of life", i believe that we will all succeed in this life and in eternity if we all submit to God and accept the laws as enshrined by God in the Quran and other guidance that it points to, upon the foundation of the Quran, however, i believe that God gave all people (citizens of planet earth) a choice and that He allows us to make that choice, to stray further or to slowly come around to the truth via trial and error and that ultimately He will judge us completely and perfectly after we return to Him and are raised for the detailed, final and perfect judgement - as long as the oppression and wrongdoing doesn't reach the level where the righteous have reached their thresold of capability and longsuffering and are calling upon Him from all over the earth in anguish to intervene and judge in truth.
God has made many challenges in the Quran to the doubters and deniers to show a better way that His Prophet may follow it, however, they consistently resorted to malicious personal attacks, slander and confused mockery and hateful treatment when they inevitably failed. The same happened with Pharaoh at the time of Moses, God allowed them to build a very sophisticated civilization which was the envy of the earth at the time, however, the oppression upon which that civilization was running was causing deeply moving prayers and invocations to go up against it, God looks into the matter carefully and sends a Messenger to test them, they inevitably fail in any intellectual argument against the stuttering hebrew born of slaves whom they hold to be below themselves and despise, and resort to the worst kinds of oppression in response - then God judges in truth.
What did Moses ask of them?
Believe in the Lord of the worlds.
Thwy lost the debate and turned to hate and unbearable oppression,
What does Moses say next?
Send forth with me Bani Israil.
They refuse and continue in the oppression.
God judges Pharaoh and his soldiers and allows bani Israil to go and establish themselves, God also respites the confused people of Egypt despite them not having accepted the guidance - even though the records of Yusuf existed amongst them from aforetime
Then the children of Israil begin to stray and God keeps guiding them through Messengers and Prophets, to the extent where they begin killing those sent to them in good faith, God removes from them the kingdom of heaven on earth after the test of the Messiah.
After leaving them in a confused state for over half a century, and while their minds are again thirsting for guidance, while the caesars and the greeks have come up with different models, He sends His Messenger with guidance and the final revelation which the people slowly begin to accept, there are differences of opinion later but always a way of easily uniting upon it, it plays along, sonetimes stumbling, until 1924, when some people had built a kingdom based on the antithesis which is usury and atheism (sometimes-crypto though often bold) and it reaches to the extent that they kill each other en mass in "wars to end all wars" and proclaim the united nations where all fiefdoms shall co-exist and all differences will be settled at the table of dialogue in new york. Those with the ability to inflict most death are given the seats of power on the security council, then the ones with the most weapons decide to continue with undeclared and proxy wars and show the world the undeclared war of vietnam and nicaragua, then help neighbours to weaken and annihilate each other with support and fake green lights, until nations are on their knees, then thwy declare war on their puppet ally, after that's over and millions of children dead, they use the U.N itself to do their spying, and use the intel to totally invade the nation weakened by their alliance, their wars, and their sanctions, while the world sees no more than a few protesting whimpers from the United Nations that was branded and pitched as the supreme table of dialogue in a new era of post-war international peace.
America played jack the atheist lad and failed before the world in all it's promises of a peaceful anarchistic secular world of justice and dignity for all.
So you can see that the results are basically in, that opprossion has become manifest, that truth has become manifest, that people with a thinking mind should have looked at it all and come to their senses by now, that God has taken a front position, demanded that we all submit to Him and given us an additional short respite just out of additional grace, and that that respite is almost done.
Besides all of that which is proven for this world, there is the resurrectuon after death, judgement and eternal life with no gray areas. Only those who accepted God and His Messengers, and submitted to God and His rules will succeed, whereas those who ungratefully rejected God will receive a just and fitting punishment for their adding to the pool of falsehood and oppression.
No. I really can't. And that does not make me dishonest, senseless or disharmonious. Nor does it make me or anyone else who disagrees with you unintelligent.
Then explain to me a way to make it all work peacefully and harmoniously in this worldly life alone - rather than spending years upon years arguing with me about how i'm always wrong.
The usurers already came to the understanding that we'd soon have world government quite a few decades ago, but they also proved that the usury model is not only unsustainable, but that it is the source of oppression and corruption.
I am not God, The One who created this universe, Who shaped you, Feeds you, judges us on earth usually collectively, and will ressurect you again and judge you individually and thoroughly is God,
i explained to you that anyone who disagrees with God is UNintelligent, and you are proving that by your method of argument when you resort to claiming that i am trying to dominate you or belittle you when i present to you the guidance of your Creator in good faith which will elevate people from their humiliation - when you can no longer show us any reasonable models that will actually work or are working, and the psychology of your method has been installed in my malware definitions database so it doesn't come to me as an overwhelming surprise:
But the chiefs of those who disbelieved among his people said: "He is no more than a human being like you, he seeks to make himself superior to you. Had Allah willed, He surely could have sent down angels; never did we hear such a thing among our fathers of old.
Quran 23:24
56.*And indeed We showed him [Fir'aun (Pharaoh)] all Our Signs and Evidences, but he denied and refused.
57.*He [Fir'aun (Pharaoh)] said: "Have you come to drive us out of our land with your magic, O Musa (Moses)?
58.*"Then verily, we can produce magic the like thereof; so appoint a meeting between us and you, which neither we, nor you shall fail to keep, in an open wide place where both shall have a just and equal chance (and beholders could witness the competition)."59.*[Musa (Moses)] said: "Your appointed meeting is the day of the festival, and let the people assemble when the sun has risen (forenoon)."60.*So Fir'aun (Pharaoh) withdrew, devised his plot and then came back.61.*Musa (Moses) said to them: "Woe unto you! Invent not a lie against Allah, lest He should destroy you completely by a torment. And surely, he who invents a lie (against Allah) will fail miserably."62.*Then they debated with one another what they must do, and they kept their talk secret.
63.*They said: "Verily! These are two magicians.
Their object is to drive you out from your land with magic, and overcome your chiefs and nobles.
64.*"So devise your plot, and then assemble in line. And whoever overcomes this day will be indeed successful."65.*They said:"O Musa (Moses)! Either you throw first or we be the first to throw?"66.*[Musa (Moses)] said: "Nay, throw you (first)!" Then behold, their ropes and their sticks, by their magic, appeared to him as though they moved fast.67.*So Musa (Moses) conceived a fear in himself.68.*We (Allah) said: "Fear not! Surely, you will have the upper hand.69.*"And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick, and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."
From Quran Chapter 20, TaHa
And yes, I say you, and not God, because from my point of view this is coming from you, and not God, since your God is a creation of your mind. And not only that, but what you say of you God and what he wants is very different than what other people say of their God(s) and what he/she/it/they want, including other people who call themselves Muslims, even in this very thread. To me, all of these Gods are creations of your minds, and you are all speaking your minds and your views in the context of theology.
you've seen many signs and changed the topic or even resorted to getting red faced (web type) and asking how it's on topic when i've offered you proof, You claim to live in Canada right? Now i don't claim to have the authority of God or of making Him do what i want, but i can ask and He listens and can respond and command the angels if He sees fit, how about it snows non-stop in canada, the U.K and other kafir majority countries, especially those allied in the unlawful murders of Muslims and unlawful manipulation of their governments, right up until boxing day to the extent that you can no longer venture outside? I am capable of doublethink in that i can accept the fact of Qadr (divine decree) and simultaneous oppression of man as being unlawful as an unexplainable fact. However can you claim that there is no God, yet blame God, and accuse one of sorcery at the same time?
And would you prefer to believe in sorcery over the guidance of God?
That is fine with me, and I don't seek to offend anybody or dominate/destroy them or their beliefs, so long as they don't seek to dominate or destroy me or mine. Some religious people seem to be able to handle that and co-exist peacefully. You don't appear to be one of them. I would like to be wrong about that. Am I?
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Maybe it's because you don't currently coexist peacefully, and that your leaders deceive you into thinking that you do co-exist peacefully while they regularly slander Islam and treat Muslims in an undignified manner and perpetrate or provoke false flags in order to keep your eye off the ball whilst the lamestream media clouds your reality.
