God did not sacrifice Jesus

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I must comment though I do not hold to the traditianal coequal trinity doctrine, that to say that GOD couldn't take human form if it was indeed it's will is limiting the power of God based on he limited understanding of man.

Peace
 
StrivingforDeen said:
Saif-uddin.

Ever heard of making a single post?
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Yes akhi I heard that. But I also heard that most people have short attention span, so I didn't want to make a lengthy post.

Also sometimes I make a post and I remember something else that ought to be added, which necessitates and other post. [emoji27]

جزاك الله خيرا
 
popsthebuilder said:
I must comment though I do not hold to the traditianal coequal trinity doctrine, that to say that GOD couldn't take human form if it was indeed it's will is limiting the power of God based on he limited understanding of man.

Peace
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Peace be upon those who receive guidance!

Another self refuting argument.

Claiming God took Human form is of itself a limitation.

Human beings are limited by nature.

If you refer back to your Bible, whichever version your following, you will see several limitations attributed to Jesus,

This proves he never took Human form.

Regards
 
saif-uddin said:
Yes akhi I heard that. But I also heard that most people have short attention span, so I didn't want to make a lengthy post.

Also sometimes I make a post and I remember something else that ought to be added, which necessitates and other post. [emoji27]

جزاك الله خيرا
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Next time you can edit your post to add more points.
 
Moshy said:
https://vimeo.com/148857052
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Can you summarize what points you like about the vid? That's more meaningful than dumping a link on us :)

Jesus' suffering for our sins was prophesied by several Old Testament prophets, what do Muslims make of Isiaih chapter 53. Here is a snippet:

4 Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.

...

12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,[g]
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,[h]
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.


Read the chapter from the Old Testament. My second question is whether Muslims can find as clear a prophecy of Muhammad's coming :)

Cheers

sojourn
 
saif-uddin said:
If God became creation, he'd no longer be God
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It's easy to create your own understanding of Christian doctrine and attack, but maybe you should at least take the time to understand what we believe so that you can attack us accurately :)

Christians believe Jesus was a Divine person with an assumed human nature. We don't believe he lost His Divine nature during the incarnation. Since He had a human nature he was truly human and was like us in all ways except sin. He breathed, ate, felt pain, and anything else that is associated with human experience.

Now that you know a bit what we actually believe, ask your questions. ;)
 
Sojourn said:
It's easy to create your own understanding of Christian doctrine and attack, but maybe you should at least take the time to understand what we believe so that you can attack us accurately :)

Christians believe Jesus was a Divine person with an assumed human nature. We don't believe he lost His Divine nature during the incarnation. Since He had a human nature he was truly human and was like us in all ways except sin. He breathed, ate, felt pain, and anything else that is associated with human experience.

Now that you know a bit what we actually believe, ask your questions. ;)
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Totally agree, even I was unaware of what Christians believe until I became one myself. I guess we all are ignorant in some ways :).
 
StrivingforDeen said:
Totally agree, even I was unaware of what Christians believe until I became one myself. I guess we all are ignorant in some ways :).
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Peace be with you my brother in the Lord,

Anyone who wishes to attack our Faith needs to first understand it :)
 
Sojourn said:
Read the chapter from the Old Testament. My second question is whether Muslims can find as clear a prophecy of Muhammad's coming :)

Cheers

sojourn
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[h=4]SAHIH INTERNATIONAL[/h][h=2]And @ when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic." Qur'aan 61:6[/h][/FONT][/COLOR] Muhammad :arabic5: is referred to as 'Ahmad' here, they both come from the same root word i believe. Im not knowledgeable enough to debate in comparative religion but i just wanted to put that out there.;
 

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