French minister: Muslim women who wear veils like ‘negroes’ supporting slavery

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So, in the latest news, the French Minister for Women's Affairs claimed that women who voluntarily don the hijab are just like Negro slaves who attempted to justify slavery upon themselves.

As if that wasn't bad enough, an online petition was launched complaining against this minister...not for likening our hijabi sisters to slaves, but for the derogatory usage of the term 'Negro'!!!

And so she apologized, but only for the term, and said she would stand by 100 % everything else she said.

Truly, we live in times predicted by our Prophet (salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam), where morality and modesty are considered backwards, and indecency and nudity are considered progress and enlightenment.

What if an argument were to be made in the exact opposite vein? That people who feel they must show skin, and dress in a provocative manner, are themselves slaves to the ever-changing norms of society and to the false gods of fashion?

From a purely philosophical and intellectual standpoint, it's a two-way street, and just as she wishes to argue that Muslims are brainwashed, one could just as easily argue that it is her ilk who are brainwashed.

Who will be the judge?
"Surely, the One who has created knows what is best. For indeed He is the Knower of Hidden Affairs, the One Aware of all" [Tabarak: 14].

Our Creator knows what is best for us, and in one aspect I do agree with this racist pompous supercilious patronizing xenophobe: all Muslims are indeed slaves, and we're proud of it. We are all slaves unto Allah, and we humble ourselves before Him.

- Yasir Qadhi

Read the article here: http://www.france24.com/en/20160330...r-veils-like-pro-slavery-negroes?dlvrit=66745
 
She sees subordination.

Muslim women and me see liberation. Alhamdulilah.

She's basically saying those who cover up must be freed as they don't see the oppression the hijaab brings.

Such double standards. Talking about 'freedom' and then dictating what women should & shouldn't do.
 
So by this Minister's logic, are nuns Uncle Toms, too?
 
Here's your McDonalds uniform, report to the manager.

But seriously...

A jobs a job.
 
Assalamu Alaykum,

What frustrates me is when I am told, 'You do not realise but you are being brainwashed into thinking you have a choice when you don't'. Like oh my gosh, I have been brainwashed and I do not even know? And the problem with the people of this mentality is that they will never understand - they will listen to you pityingly as they have convinced themselves that Muslim women have been brainwashed into wearing the hijab and following their religion and our every word is a result of that. It is such a circular argument - you think you have a choice but you don't as you don't know you didn't have a choice. ^o)
 
No..hh..mus..resis...t..

Can't see past the veil I suppose...


:/

I'll get me coat... If it's any consolation I'm often the butt of bad jokes.. Probably.

Have patience and perseverance.. Those are the choices other people make.
 
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Such indecent comments about a particular community by a person who holds a respectable office in a country are beyond civility. Such people should learn to be civilised and well mannered. This type of encroachment in personal life of citizens can't be liked by any sane person.
 
Opposite, still as stupid conclusion would to be say that women whose don´t wear themselves with propriety in public, support prostitute but I don´t say it as it´s as silly like this opinion of that minister.
 
How can she compare Hijabs to Slavery ?

In the sense of being a 'slave' to men and to religion. Many non-Muslims claim this is a sign of subjugation towards men who have no self-control and hence pressurise women to observe hijab. :hmm: Makes no sense to me. I more think women are slaves to the modern fashion industry which asks them to conform to unnatural standards of beauty and only objectifies them.

Some people think that Western culture is the only 'mainstream' and every other way of life or tradition or culture is backward and stuck in the middle ages. It is this ethnocentric viewpoint which makes people say things like this - it is different so it is wrong.
But in Islam as long as it doesn't go against the teachings of Allah, no culture is wrong or more superior to another, even Western countries have their positive points some Muslim nations could learn from. :D
 
Perhaps it's time to turn the tables around...

To now accuse them of being brainwashed!

They have been! All the advertising and the media coverage and hollywood films has worked! They have fallen victim to propaganda and the worst part is that they have ALSO been successfully sealed in their brainwashed state by now 'believing' the propaganda and seriously think that your wish NOT to participate in their quest of an illusion is oppression. Actually, it is them who have cave in to oppression of the men.. we love it when they act silly. The devil in us will test our imaan.. it is a win - win situation for Satan.


:peace:
 
I agree. We should be listening to the muslima women themselves, and not to our own biases and preconceived ideas.

I wonder though, while I strongly support a muslima's right to wear what she wants (as well as a man to wear a turban or long beard or whatever he wants), how many of you here would join me in also supporting the rights of nudists to wear what they want (nothing at all)?
 
The issue with France, is that since Muslims unfortunately have come to imply certain things in the political imaginary of European society, women who wear the hijab are submitting themselves to being seen through the 'political imaginary' of what the Muslim has come to imply. For most of the part, it is the implicaiton that Muslims are 'backwards, socially inferior and immigrants' and as such if a woman chooses, regardless of her background to attest that she is a Muslim despite the connotations implied to the Muslim identity, that she is allowing her identity to be defined as what is defined as a Muslim. So the French minister links that with the similarity of a black slave, permitting slavery.
 
So the French minister links that with the similarity of a black slave, permitting slavery.

I wonder did he realized how racist his way of thinking is as he talked about black slaves? How just black people would to be slaves? Or is this the European way to see slavery? Propably this minister has forgotten all those European women whose live also in France as sex slaves. It should to be bigger problem to women´s affairs minister than hunting Muslim women.
 
I wonder did he realized how racist his way of thinking is as he talked about black slaves? How just black people would to be slaves? Or is this the European way to see slavery? Propably this minister has forgotten all those European women whose live also in France as sex slaves. It should to be bigger problem to women´s affairs minister than hunting Muslim women.

Unfortunately France is an imperial power house. Whose history with the Haitian and Algerian revolution are both still lurking in the imagination and guides their construction of people. :/
 
I agree. We should be listening to the muslima women themselves, and not to our own biases and preconceived ideas.

I wonder though, while I strongly support a muslima's right to wear what she wants (as well as a man to wear a turban or long beard or whatever he wants), how many of you here would join me in also supporting the rights of nudists to wear what they want (nothing at all)?

As trying to be honest and equal, I have to admit that if we wish to receive fair treatment to ourselves we also should be ready to protect rights of others...

:embarrass
 

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